a1studmuffin ,
@a1studmuffin@aussie.zone avatar

That's an antitrust case if ever I saw one.

bruhduh ,
@bruhduh@lemmy.world avatar

EU be like: aw shit here we go again

PrairieRanger ,

I wonder how long it'll be before google gets sued for their anti-competitive behavior.

HawlSera ,

Oh I imagine the papers are being filed as we speak, because this is blatantly illegal.

sweeny ,

What law are they breaking? Not trying to defend Google or anything, just curious what law is blatantly being broken here because I don't know of one

laurelraven ,

Blatantly anticompetitive behavior where you (ab)use your dominance in one sector (i.e. YouTube) to choke out competition in another (i.e. make it slow on competing browsers) is illegal in the US and the EU, at the very least. I don't know the specific laws or acts in play, but that's the sort of thing that triggers antitrust lawsuits

orrk ,

see FTC anticompetitive-practices

squirrelwithnut ,

This is why net neutrality is important. To prevent bullshit like this from happening.

Rinox ,
ikidd ,
@ikidd@lemmy.world avatar

So this is part of a larger adblock checker, if the ad doesn't load within 5 seconds, it fails and triggers the adblocker warning. Since the ad should load in 3, they've set it for 5. If you have ubo, you won't see the warning that it then wants to pop up, it just seems (and is) a 5 second delay. Changing the UA probably removes this from Firefox because then the clientside scripts will attempt to use builtin Chrome functions that wouldn't need this hacky script to detect the adblock. Since they don't exist, it just carries on.

Rustmilian ,
@Rustmilian@lemmy.world avatar

Doesn't this break competition laws?
Couldn't Google/YouTube be sued over this?

umbraroze ,
@umbraroze@kbin.social avatar

Microsoft got repeatedly hit over this kind of shenanigans in MSIE during and after the anti-trust lawsuit.

Sadly, that was 20 years ago. I'm not having much faith in American justice system doing anything about this nowadays.

Voltage ,

The fuck?? Isn’t this anti competitive behaviour?

PerogiBoi ,
@PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca avatar

In a previous generation, governments would go after this blatant anti competitive behaviour.

ObviouslyNotBanana ,
@ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world avatar

I'm sure the EU will still.

PerogiBoi ,
@PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca avatar

It’s just a shame that there’s really only one government organization globally that will still stand up to corporations.

psycho_driver ,

To be fair China will send you to a reeducation camp or disappear you if you try to act like a western billionaire.

micka190 ,

Some people are reporting it happens when your accounts get flagged by YouTube for blocking ads and that using a private browsing session can be used to bypass it, so it's possible this isn't a blanket thing?

Either way, they can go fuck themselves.

If you're on Firefox and using uBlock Origin (which you should), you can add the following to your filters list to essentially disable the delay:

! Bypass 5 seconds delay added by YouTube
www.youtube.com##+js(nano-stb, resolve(1), 5000, 0.001)

It doesn't fully disable it, just makes it almost instant, because Google has been doing shit like looking at what gets blocked to combat ad blockers recently.

scholar ,

It's bizarre how blatent this is. Google has so much power over web standards that Mozilla have to work really hard to make firefox work, but YouTube don't bother being subtle or clever and just write 'if Firefox, get stuffed' in plain text for everyone to see.

agent_flounder ,
@agent_flounder@lemmy.world avatar

In my other comment I provide a link to the US DOJ anti-trust complaint center website.

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