Censored ,

Crazy to think they were even considering it. Hopefully this is the end of it.

foremanguy92_ ,

Great choice, now do not say the same thing next year!

Beaver ,
@Beaver@lemmy.ca avatar

Thank the heavens. Now keep it that way!

LordCrom ,

They are just delaying the vote for another time... Hoping that next time it will fly under the radar and there won't be a huge backlash of discontent.

If the vote fail, they just wait a year, rename it, and try again.

Same thing happens in the US. Law proposed that people hate, people organize, start a campaign that fights for news airtime, bringing awareness of the dickery about to happen, and then succeed after a hard battle and many many volunteer hours spent.

In 6 months Congress just renames it the "I love kittens" act and sticks it on a must pass bill.

Fighting bullshit laws is exhausting....

match ,
@match@pawb.social avatar

It happens in the US yes, but does it happen in the EU?

d00ery ,

As much I like the EU, politicians are politicians ...

henfredemars ,

Happy cake day!

d00ery ,

Gosh that was a quick year! Thanks 😁

uis ,
@uis@lemm.ee avatar

Cupcake! So sweet and tasty.

Cupcake! Don't be too hasty.

cows_are_underrated ,

Idk about the EU(there have been cases that were exactly this, an example would be Article 13), but I can say to you, that this devinetively happens in Germany. Our conservatives party wants to pass a law, that would track and save all your online activity(Vorratsdatenspeicherung/ data preservation) to fight "paedophiles and terrorists" they bring it up once in a while, even tho, our federal court already said, that its illegal.

Treczoks ,

Don't be surprise if it reappears as an attachment to a fishing quota law or a law defining sizes for underwear...

uis ,
@uis@lemm.ee avatar

it reappears as an attachment to a fishing quota law or a law defining sizes for underwear

Sounds very Putin.

Treczoks ,

Actually, this is a common occurance in the US and EU. One of the previous, court-captured laws actually was riding with fishing quota regulations.

Honytawk ,

Yeah, Putin doesn't have to hide anything because nobody is allowed to object to any crazy laws he invents.

ZILtoid1991 ,

Hungary will take the EU presidency, they just name it "child protection" and will smear everyone as a pedophile who objects it.

gravitas_deficiency ,

I am suspicious they realized that they weren’t going to be able to make a loophole for themselves - I’ve seen several articles in the last week on how they were trying to do that.

DoucheBagMcSwag ,

Nah it's more like that got caught being hypocrites

uis ,
@uis@lemm.ee avatar

Anti-privacy doesn't see hypocrisity as something bad

lud ,

Moritz Körner, Member of the European Parliament, disclosed the decision on Twitter. Swedish publisher SVG said, “The question was removed at the last moment from Thursday’s ambassadorial meeting in Brussels”.

Who are SVG? I have never heard of them before and I can't find anything online.

CautiousCharacter ,

It looks like they might have meant SVT (Swedish public television). This article has similar wording.

ChaoticEntropy ,
@ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk avatar

I was thinking they might have meant SvD (Svenska Dagbladet), who are a news organisation, though I didn't see any corresponding articles.

banana_lama ,

Now put in a law saying you can't do that

Thorny_Insight ,

So I assume that since it was withdrawn, this doesn't set a precedent and it's only a matter of time untill they try to sneak it thru with a different name.

andrade ,

Note the vote was withdrawn, not actually voted against. They're pushing this for a later date because there was no majority.

“The EU Council did not make a decision on chat control today, as the agenda item was removed due to the lack of a majority, (...)

Belgium’s draft law, (...) was instead postponed indefinitely. (...) Belgium cannot currently present a proposal that would gain a majority. In July, the Council Presidency will transfer from Belgium to Hungary, which has stated its intention to advance negotiations on chat control as part of its work program.

PrettyFlyForAFatGuy ,

Absolutely fuck all is going to get done while orban has control of the council so at least theres that

kilgore_trout ,
@kilgore_trout@feddit.it avatar

Hungary will have the presidency, not the total control. They propose discussions but the vote in the Council is still majority based.

Valmond ,

Gotta hold 6 months...

MigratingtoLemmy ,

Find the politicians by name who voted yes for this, and display them in public.

Let the capable open source community then take over going through their phones, since they must be OK with their phones being scanned, right?

ripcord ,
@ripcord@lemmy.world avatar

At least some of them were discussion giving themselves an exception from it. So no.

MigratingtoLemmy ,

All the more reason to find the friendly neighbourhood blackhat gang

uis ,
@uis@lemm.ee avatar

more reason to find the friendly neighbourhood blackhat gang

Hah. Now imagine someone calling China to hack their phones.

MigratingtoLemmy ,

*wink wink

uis ,
@uis@lemm.ee avatar

Winking would be more appropriate if it was Russiя.

MigratingtoLemmy ,

What would the Chinese like then?

uis ,
@uis@lemm.ee avatar

Hahahaha. Dunno. +50 social rating, bowl of rice and catgirl?

MigratingtoLemmy ,

I thought that was more Korean, but I suppose that'll work for them too

uis , (edited )
@uis@lemm.ee avatar

Korean? Maybe this meme is popular only in Russia. This meme is about China.

https://lemm.ee/api/v3/image_proxy?url=https%3A%2F%2Fneolurk.org%2Fw%2Fimages%2Fc%2Fcf%2F514079f2a125e7ceda7db595a933df70.jpg

"Party is proud of you!!! Party give one catwife."

https://lemm.ee/api/v3/image_proxy?url=https%3A%2F%2Fneolurk.org%2Fw%2Fimages%2F1%2F1c%2FKitajskaja-partija-gorditsja-toboj-memy-2.jpg

"Party is proud of you! +150 social credit"

zaphod ,

First of all it was in the council, so not really individual politicians but the governments/ministers of member countries, and second they didn't vote, it was withdrawn.

MigratingtoLemmy ,

We got lucky this time. Won't be the case next time.

Also, even if it's entire governments voting, there must be a way to find politicians who are pro and against this, yes? Pretty sure governments had an internal vote and they came up with their decision based on said vote

zaphod ,

I'd assume people already know who their government is and who of them favours policies like this.

EntropyPure ,

From what I understand it was withdrawn as a vote „in favor of the goals of the commission“ was not guaranteed. In part because Germany announced its decision to withdraw support yesterday. Seems to be standard behavior.

r , (edited )
@r@piefed.social avatar

glad it got stopped. hopefully it never passes

MonkderDritte ,

Can we please identify the guys always pushing encryption-breaking ideas?

fuzzy_feeling ,

https://balkaninsight.com/2023/09/25/who-benefits-inside-the-eus-fight-over-scanning-for-child-sex-content/

melroy ,
@melroy@kbin.melroy.org avatar

Damn.. this was almost China 2.0 in EU. This was a close call people... this is not good.

MonkderDritte , (edited )

Until next try in a few months.

What i read here sometime without source, that secret services since Snowden push for breaking of encryption, seems more and more plausible.

uis ,
@uis@lemm.ee avatar

USSA - totalitarian total surveilance since 2007 or earlier.

China - totalitarian total surveilance since the beginning.

Russia - totalitarian total surveilance since 2016.

You know, even Russia doesn't look that bad. Also, fuck Putin, Yarovaya, Milonov and fuck FSB/NSA/other spying organizations.

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