fine_sandy_bottom ,

I'm surprised that they haven't been doing this from the start tbh. Obviously they've been selling your data to whoever, which is really the same I guess.

Blackmist ,

I'll be more concerned when Visa and Mastercard get wind of this idea.

RaoulDook ,

Did you not know they're already selling your purchase data? All the card networks do it.

That's why you need to use cash to buy anything you don't want logged to create a data point about you to be sold

Blackmist , (edited )

For items or just the shop? Because I write EPOS systems for a living, and as far as I can tell, we pass no item data to the credit card merchants.

The shop is obviously passed to them. So maybe don't buy from Dave's Enormous Dildo Emporium.

RaoulDook ,

The card companies can get data from the Merchant Category Code to infer the nature of purchases, without specifics. The stores also have a record of what items you bought, which could also be sold unless you have a contract with the store that guarantees they won't sell your purchase history (at least in the countries without strong privacy laws)

exanime ,

So happy I deleted my account with them 5 years ago after going throught their laughably bad customer protection (the only reason I had them to begin with, I had figured it was a good idea to have a buffer between merchants and my CC)

In the end, it was perfect because, as they refused to help, I went straight to the credit card to reverse the fraudulent charge and closed all accounts with PayPal... Then I get a whiny email from them when the CC took the funds and left them holding the bag... Sweet minor victory

Blackmist ,

PayPal. All the authority of a bank. None of the responsibility.

Throw_away_migrator ,

I feel like this could be used to describe any tech company that "innovates" or "disrupts" an area.

exanime ,

Correct... In late stage capitalism "innovation" means breaking some laws (Air B&B, Uber), smoke and mirrors (AI) or outright scams (Theranos)

This is why all these new "innovations" need to flood the market as hard and fast as possible.... Before anyone notices what they really are

Blackmist ,

Throw enough investor money at lawyers and anything is legal for an amount of time.

"Oh, I'm sowwy, did we bweak the law? Well here's 5,000 boxes of paper that say we didn't, see you in 18 months."

arymandias ,

Up next: PayPal introducing new AI that purchases random shit for you.

elvith ,
spizzat2 ,

Relevant xkcd?

Churbleyimyam ,

What a surprise.

bazingabot ,

You cannot trust any US company any longer...they are basically all creepy

grue ,

That's why the only safe software in the long term is Free Software.

Olhonestjim ,

Corpo apps are like

"Do you love me? Rate 5 stars?"

How about zero stars for harassment? Do I need to talk to HR?

RGB3x3 ,

Fucking within like 2 minutes of using their apps too, they ask, "do you like the app?" Then another popup that says, "provide feedback for why you don't like our app?"

Because you keep getting in the way of me actually doing what I need to do. And it's getting uninstalled as soon as I'm done with it.

manucode ,
@manucode@infosec.pub avatar

How is that GDPR compliant?

rikudou ,

They'll give you $2 or something like that if you give them consent. You would be surprised how well that works.

vodkasolution ,
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Still not possible under EU law (as meta for the no-ads paid subscription)

rikudou ,

That's very different, they want you to either pay or not have access. This would be you still having access, but being paid for giving them data voluntarily.

That's perfectly legal and employed across many European business entities.

vodkasolution ,
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You can't tie selling user data to some user payment at that level

romp_2_door ,

It'll probably launch in the US only to avoid GDPR concerns

Blackmist ,

By showing you an annoying popup every time you use PayPal, and eventually you'll accidentally click OK and it will mysteriously remember this and never ask you again.

admin ,
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I'm more surprised they hadn't yet, to be honest.

Over here regular banks have been doing that for years 😥

rtxn ,

I hope they enjoy analzying my once-a-month subscription to FFXIV and nothing else.

Kushan , (edited )
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Prepare to get inundated with ads for anime girls and other weeb shit.

EDIT: To clarify, I mean "weeb" as a term of endearment rather than the pejorative.

wandermind ,

I first thought this was a bad idea by Paypal but you opened my eyes

activ8r ,

Of course it is.

powerofm ,

There is it. The main reason why Honey exists.

Tikiporch ,

Yes, their evil plot finally laid bare. Copy what Mastercard and Visa have been doing since the 80s.

Whirling_Cloudburst ,

Just the tip you say?

How about no way!

autotldr Bot ,

This is the best summary I could come up with:


PayPal will use data from billions of customer transactions to supercharge its nascent ad business.

The new PayPal Ads group is headed by recent hire Mark Grether, a senior vice president and GM at PayPal, who says the budding advertising operation will "help make merchants smarter to sell more products and services effectively, as well as enable consumers to discover more of what they love."

But, his reported statement doesn't really dwell on the fact that it will be using customer data, including purchase history, to pull this off.

In addition to the main PayPal platform, it also operates cash transfer app Venmo and Honey, a browser extension designed to find deals online.

The report also mentions that Venmo will see fewer ads served in order to not drive off its younger users.

PayPal's data on users' purchases and other transactions, combined with AI, might prove to be great at advertising, though probably to the consternation and frustration of recipients.


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daisyKutter ,
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Is there an alternative to paypal?

Dremor ,
@Dremor@lemmy.world avatar

Depends on what feature you use.

https://alternativeto.net/software/paypal/

rikudou ,

For my use case Revolut mostly replaced it.

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