YoorWeb ,

GOG

sircac ,
@sircac@lemmy.world avatar

So is a flat rate life rental rather than a purchase, the nth stuff that is not of your property but a concession...

PiratePanPan ,
@PiratePanPan@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

So sad I won't be able to bequeath "Fifty Shades of Fur - Gay Erotic Visual Novel 18+" to my grandchildren

Bitflip ,

Then come fucking stop me

kent_eh ,

Once again further diluting the meaning of the words "bought" and "sold"

fox2263 ,

“And to my son, I bequeath my steam account - user is blah and password is blah”

Checkmate steam

UnderpantsWeevil ,
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

blah!@birthday-ssn

LemmyFeed ,

The article goes into that and states password sharing is against the Eula so technically they can kick you off the service if they find out..... IF they find out wink wink

sugar_in_your_tea ,

Dang, they'll kick my corpse off Steam...

iAvicenna ,
@iAvicenna@lemmy.world avatar

I mean it is not sharing if you are dead, it is bequeathing

caseyweederman ,

You can't just bequeath bankruptcy!

boatsnhos931 ,

R U SERIUSSS?!!1 wait a minute, I don't have a steam account...dag nabbit..

StaySquared , (edited )

Wooo... glad I stopped investing into video games about a decade ago. Between this and Ubisoft's, "DEI" into their video games lol.. fk the whack gaming industry.

ramjambamalam ,

Which part of diversity, equity and inclusion are you opposed to? Or do the quotes mean that Ubisoft is doing something nefarious in the name of DEI and I'm out of the loop?

StaySquared ,

Sorry, I can't explain (in detail) why because my comment will be deleted and more than likely banned. Let's just say that if I was still playing Assassin's Creed franchise, what Ubisoft has done pretty much would make me stop investing further into the franchise.

I'm not interested getting into it nor defending my opinion, it is what it is.

rayquetzalcoatl ,
@rayquetzalcoatl@lemmy.world avatar

Why would your comment be deleted and banned? Lol

StaySquared ,

Proud snowflakes, that's why.

samus12345 ,
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

Typical Gamergate crap, most likely.

PotatoKat ,

You don't have to say dei. You can just say the n-word like we all know you want to

StaySquared ,

I.. don't care about the race of a character in Assassin's Creed.. lol it's a fkin video game, bro. As if I've never played Final Fantasy with different "species" and skin colors for lack of a better term.
Psssst I'm Latino. I have family members who look straight up Black to the typical plebian.

PotatoKat ,

Same which means I know that being latino doesn't mean you can't be racist as fuck. Please tell me how you saying "dei" in assassins creed has nothing to do with the black guy being a main character.

StaySquared ,

It's not because a character is Black. DEI is not just about race.

smh.

ILikeBoobies , (edited )

They also don’t let you transfer purchases if for instance you’re being stalked

Had a friend lose a thousand games that way

Jakeroxs ,

Friend could have in theory just authorized their steam library on the computer and played them through a different account. The "family sharing" thing.

flappy ,

Don't you have to be friends for that? I believe there was a website that showed your friends list, even if your profile was set to private.

Jakeroxs ,

You might be right, I thought that specific function wasn't dependent on being friends but I am not sure.

VeganCheesecake , (edited )
@VeganCheesecake@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

What Stream support have sent that person is probably an accurate representation of what happens when you apply their policies as written. Write another article if they are seen enforcing it.

Luckily, SteamDRM is usually easy to bypass, so if that happens one could prepare accordingly.

woelkchen ,
@woelkchen@lemmy.world avatar

These days a will should include documentation of logins. No need to bypass Steam DRM when my relatives have my phone's PIN and email credentials to just access all games. Pretty sure my local laws cover digital inheritance.

VeganCheesecake ,
@VeganCheesecake@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Yeah, my point was, if they do try to enforce their policies, we could probably find a way to work around it. It's probably cheaper and easier than for your heirs to test those digital inheritance laws in court.

MudMan ,
@MudMan@fedia.io avatar

The difference is that your Steam account is probably holding thousands of dollars in value while your pirated copies of Steam games are worth nothing. And presumably that whichever of your grandchildren gets nerdy gran's stash will likely not care to reverse engineer your warez archives just to play Bioshock again in 2075.

It's not about access to the games, it's about whether you own what you buy.

VeganCheesecake ,
@VeganCheesecake@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

I personally don't value them differently, but I see your point.

The wonky ownership of these games is actually the reason I've been pretty much exclusively buying stuff on GoG for a few years. I don't know their stance on inheritance, but at least the hypothetical grandchild won't need perpetual access to the account to keep playing the games.

In the end, clear legislation is kinda the only thing that can resolve this mess.

beefbot ,

Soon they’ll clarify their philosophical stance on identity & claim a person changes so much from moment to moment that yesterday-you doesn’t exist anymore, & therefore must pay again

CoolMatt ,

I just started Talos Principle the other day and this reads like something that computer that keeps arguing with me about personhood would say

Gloomy ,
@Gloomy@mander.xyz avatar

Somewhere there is a hyper capitalist parallel Universum where buddhism is the mainstream western religion and this stance is enforced rigorously.

UnderpantsWeevil , (edited )
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

At some point, Gabe is going to sell the company and/or die. The company will be transferred to a hedge fund. And then you'll see a bunch of evil IT bros come up with increasingly sadistic means of cannibalizing the user base for profit.

Drink the Mountain Dew Verification Can to continue, etc, etc.

Ibaudia ,
@Ibaudia@lemmy.world avatar

I really feel like this won't/can't be enforced.

supersquirrel ,

Just because it is wrong and obviously contradictory to other established precedents doesn’t at this point mean that it won’t be enforced unfortunately.

Ibaudia ,
@Ibaudia@lemmy.world avatar

I get that, but that's just the vibe Valve has to me.

supersquirrel , (edited )

Valve is a business, they don’t give a shit about vibes, when Valve gets sold off and it will one day (probably sooner than we expect) none of these “vibes” or “culture” are going to matter one single tiny little bit.

That is the point of this whole system, we receive assurances up down left right and in every which direction that entities like Valve won’t be ripped up and destroyed by venture capital, private equity, or whatever the fuck the current grift the 1% has us in… and they are empty promises by design.

A company is not legally defined as the will of its creator/creators, rather the labor and particular genius of a company’s workers is purposefully rationalized into a structure that we are supposed to accept is fundamentally designed to be ripped from our hands brutally because “that is just how the adult world works, shut up and get back to work”.

Justification of unnecessary violence and destruction is one of the primary products of the system.

UnderpantsWeevil ,
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

Less about enforcement than ease of transfer. If I've got a Steam account and you've got a Steam account and I die, Steam won't let you transfer the licenses from my account to yours. You just have to maintain two independent accounts now - accounts with 2-factor authentication that you also have to maintain (so second cell numbers and emails, etc).

Steam will simply let the administrative burden of juggling extra accounts take these licenses out of the pool.

MudMan ,
@MudMan@fedia.io avatar

This. It's absolutely already enforced. Valve simply will do nothing to enable access to a relative that comes asking and most of the currently existing accounts will just fade into the ether because in most cases relatives aren't going to be particularly worried about recovering game accounts of all things when somebody passes away.

sugar_in_your_tea ,

It could be, but I don't think they'll bother.

banana_lama ,

Oh I didn't own my steam account it was created for my future children. it's a trust.

werefreeatlast ,

Lol. That's hilarious. But unfortunately you never owned the games in the first place. You rented the privilege to play the game for life?...life of the rental company or your life only? Oh man, we gotta go thru the small print on this.

banana_lama ,

I understand for the life of the company. But it's not even my steam account. It's my child's who's currently -5 years old (give or take). I did create it on their behalf a decade ago to redeem the free games on their behalf and gift them games I think they'll enjoy.

meliaesc ,

The small print just says "lol gottem"

YeetPics , (edited )
@YeetPics@mander.xyz avatar

For the life of the trust. Could span generations.

tabular , (edited )
@tabular@lemmy.world avatar

"Add to Cart", "Continue Shopping", "Purchase for myself", "Purchase as a gift", "Purchase".

Who knows, one day a court may find these terms could lead people into believing they're buying a game and force some companies to allow us to to trade or resell them (an EU court most probably).

werefreeatlast ,

Purchased should mean what it means for other things like cars or apples...you get a copy of an apple via a purchase and you are guaranteed to be able to use that apple in any manner you please. So for example, you could eat it, ferment it, store it in resin for posterity and for future humans to recreate it. There aren't any limits to a purchase. So I agree, maybe we need ask the supremes of the supreme court if purchasing means different things. So if I purchase sex from a prostitute legally in Las Vegas, does that prostitute need to specifically state what activities I will own? Or if I go to Costco and buy a fried chicken, does Costco need to specifically state that the chicken is not just a rental but a final exchange between you and Costco, money for dead poultry. More relatable, a screw driver from home Depot, that thing will last a few uses, so do you still own it if home Depot goes down? Can you still rotate screws with it?

tabular , (edited )
@tabular@lemmy.world avatar

Software can be both a product and a service:

  • it's a product when running on my computer (i.e. the game)
  • it's a service when running on their computer (i.e. providing the hosting/downloading, multiplayer client-server hosting).


The issue preventing one practically enacting on software is that copyright defaults to preventing you redistributing it, and you need the source code to be able to modify (fully). Thankfully some games are free software/open source when you can act on your ownership.

werefreeatlast ,

So that should be "I purchased a game" when you got a detached product that is functional forever... unless the makers make a deal with Microsoft to fuck it up on the next illegally forced update or with Nvidia to change the next card such that it is unplayable.

And it should be "I purchased.....I subscribed to this online game" when you know that shit is not yours, so don't expect it to last.

Konstant ,

Bring back big boned Gaben

chetradley ,

His heart got smaller too

Draedron ,

Did anyone actually think they? Is there anywhere where it is allowed to share your username and password with anyone else in order to use your account, whether you live or not?

olutukko ,

this. it's kinda shitty considering how much people spend on games they "own" but don't actually have any privileges they had with physical copies, but this is nowhere suprising

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