Self-Driving Tesla Nearly Hits Oncoming Train, Raises New Concern On Car's Safety ( lemmy.zip )

Craig Doty II, a Tesla owner, narrowly avoided a collision after his vehicle, in Full Self-Driving (FSD) mode, allegedly steered towards an oncoming train.

Nighttime dashcam footage from earlier this month in Ohio captured the harrowing scene: Doty's Tesla rapidly approaching a train with no apparent deceleration. He insisted his Tesla was in Full Self-Driving mode when it barreled towards the train crossing without slowing down.

ArtemisimetrA ,

Let them earn their Darwin awards

explodicle ,

I'd rather see some Free Market Darwinism™ in the form of a lawsuit.

ArtemisimetrA ,

Yeah I guess I'd be ok with that. I may have lost faith in our judicial system to get that shit done

captain_aggravated ,
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I hope Tesla owners only get themselves killed.

Fades ,

What a horrible thing to say, especially since Elon and Tesla have only relatively recently turned to absolute shit. There are a lot of Tesla drivers that don't support what he has done to the company and all that.

Here you are advocating for the death of people because they purchased a vehicle. A lot of people bought Teslas as they were one of the better EVs at the time during Tesla's climb to their peak (which they have since fallen very far from). They too deserve death?

captain_aggravated ,
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Here you are advocating for the death of people because they purchased a vehicle.

No; I'm expressing the same sentiment that I express for motorcycle riders that refuse to wear a helmet. I really, genuinely don't care if they beat their brains out on the front bumper of a Hyundai, but I don't think they get to force a Hyundai driver to hose brains off their car.

Teslas are death traps. Their owners can make that choice for themselves but I don't think they get to make it for others, which is what they try to do every time they turn on that self-driving feature.

nifty ,
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For now, cars need more than computer vision to navigate because right now adding cameras by themselves doesn’t help a car spatially orient itself in its environment. What might help? I think the consensus is that the cameras need to get a 360 deg view of the surroundings and the car needs a method for making sense of these inputs without that understanding being the focus of attention.

It seems Teslas do add sensors in appropriate locations to be able to do that, but there’s some disconnect in reconciling the information: https://www.notateslaapp.com/news/1452/tesla-guide-number-of-cameras-their-locations-uses-and-how-to-view. A multi-modal sensing system would bypass reliance on getting everything right via CV.

Think of you focusing on an object in the distance and moving toward it: while you’re using your eyes to look at it, you’re subconsciously computing relative distance and speed as you approach it. it’s your subconscious memory of your 3D spatial orientation that helps you make corrections and adjustments to your speed and approach. Outside of better hardware that can reconcile these different inputs, relying on different sensor inputs would make the most robust approach for autonomous vehicles.

Humans essentially keep track of their body in 3D space and time without thinking about it, and actually most multicellular organisms have learned to do this in some manner.

Honytawk ,

https://i.imgur.com/ccksjT7.mp4

Jakeroxs ,

This is showing it works or no? I can't tell and there isn't audio, it seems like it would be stopped correctly.

SaltySalamander ,
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Definitely shows it working.

Jakeroxs ,

Yeah, I was thinking maybe the weird flashing lights on the screen was maybe being pointed to as not working right or something to that effect? Idk lol no context provided at all

gardylou ,
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"Sorry about your dead husband, trains weren't in the training data. Our bad. Anyway, his loss is not in vain, as now that our engineers are aware that trains can be a potential driving hazard, we are going to fix this soon in a future software update."

uebquauntbez ,

Hyperloops .... hype ... oops

sp3tr4l , (edited )

This is horrible!

Obviously the Tesla's cold gas thrusters must be malfunctioning! The Fully Autonomous Only Non Insane Car AutoPilot was clearly going to jump over the train Speed Racer style!

Thank goodness the driver realized the thruster failure light was on and was able to avoid the worst.

Edit: This is sarcasm! I hate using /s because I'd like to believe people can tell, but I guess not this time...

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