TechNerdWizard42 ,

It used to be that all versions of windows were fine. Then Home was a mess and you needed Pro or above to stop being nannied. Now you'll need Enterprise to not be nannied and spied on. The cost is completely worth it.

I do NOT blindly hate windows. It runs software today that existed 30 years ago. I haven't had a real blue screen since my Win98 machine that was upgraded to XP. It just works, it works well, and gives my company life. Linux is a mess comparatively unless you want to tinker. And yes I also daily drive nix machines, and only fan bois don't see how hassle free windows can be comparatively.

The big words are can be. Because out of the box, they're making it worse and worse. I don't have a Microsoft account, local only. And boy do they not like that. Enterprise doesn't force updates at all, I can keep my machine up and running indefinitely like the old days. The only issue I have today with Win11 is the forced task tray "overflow" menu that nobody asked for and nobody wants. Currently no way to disable without hacks, and if it isn't fixed soon then I'll do that.

But this screen shotting malware cannot happen. I know there are many places where it legally cannot happen. Therefore there will have to be a way to disable it or install a version without it. And that's what I'll be getting.

If Microsoft sold a Windows 11 Platinum Edition 3000 for $2000 that just gave you all the knobs like XP and let you shoot yourself, I'd buy it. Totally worth it.

AProfessional ,

You don’t have to be a fan boy to have an opinion. Windows is not user friendly in any way. People just know it. My Linux desktops are more robust and hands off than my Windows ones. Of course that won’t apply to all situations.

TechNerdWizard42 ,

I have never encountered a user oriented Linux experience that is more hands-off that Windows this decade.

My embedded Linux systems, sure. The Linux backends in a closed system, sure. But something that is interacted with, not a chance. People love to hate Microsoft but there is a reason why they have the install base they do.

AProfessional ,

Because they are the long term incumbent, with an effective monopoly, and endless pockets of money…

The OS is not special or great.

PiratePanPan ,
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The funny part is that you don't even have to pay for it if you use the massgrave activator.

TechNerdWizard42 ,

I have no problem paying for software at this point in my life. But I won't pay for a subscription. And if I pay oodles of money, I'd hope Microsoft would opt me out of all the crap they hope to make money on with an install base like ads and inevitably copilot data sales.

Valmond ,

Me at work xith enterprise grade windows:

Right clicks.

40 seconds when I guess windows "defender" or some "protection endpoint" uploads the clicked item to some microsoft server, wakes up Bill Gates, waits for an "OK" before returning access to the computer (and displays the context menu).

Same if you dare look at c:

Suct great OS. So productivity. So tinker free.

BTW it was worse before I removed some items from the context menu by editing the registry.

TechNerdWizard42 ,

That's your corporate overlords screwing up your system. Not Daddy Gates. Yet.

Enterprise is something almost no standard corporate drone uses. The benefits are really for nerds and IT people. But it is a requirement for Xeon processors, and most of my machines are Xeon including my laptop.

gari_9812 ,

Welp, can't say I'm surprised at this point

merc ,

Can you imagine how happy this makes China?

graymess ,

This is Microsoft, an American corporation, actively developing the things the Internet spazzes out about China probably doing. How happy this makes China? Buddy, imagine how happy this makes every marketing company in the world, your local police department, and your own government, all of which have a much more vested interest in everything you do on your computer and are considerably more of a threat to you than the ruling party of a country on the other side of the planet. Seriously, y'all need to get your fucking priorities in order. It's borderline satire how fast your average Lemmy user slaps the China Panic button as soon as a privacy-related issue hits their front page.

Fungah ,

Didn't they recently come out and admit that there were hackers in many of their most secure systems that they couldn't get out?

sentient_loom ,
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My powerful laptop with Windows is already waaaaay slower than my older laptop with Linux. How much slower will it be with this nonsense? These people should switch places with the homeless.

CrayonRosary ,

records everything you've done

It records the past!? Holy shit! That's amazing!

How is this not bigger news? How does it do it?

hagelslager ,

Is the AI/copilot integration already rolled out to end users? I haven't seen it myself, but I'm in the EU where it's apparently disabled by default (and I'd like to keep it disabled).

floofloof ,

It has popped up on a couple of my Windows 11 PCs, but so far it just seems to be a button that brings up the same chat/search hybrid you get on Bing.

roofuskit ,

This is so they can record everything office workers do and sell their replacements to corporations.

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