WolfLink ,

My game’s anticheat software is already using root level permissions to monitor other program’s RAM, my OS might as well have all that data too.

My gaming OS is a malware mess. I don’t use windows for anything else since that’s the only thing it’s good at. I’ll move to Linux once my friends stop playing the games that require Windows only malware anti cheat.

floofloof ,

"Recall screenshots are only linked to a specific user profile and Recall does not share them with other users, make them available for Microsoft to view, or use them for targeting advertisements. Screenshots are only available to the person whose profile was used to sign in to the device," Microsoft says.

It's conspicuous that this statement talks only about the raw screenshots, not any data derived from them (such as aggregated data, inferred data, or even just slightly reprocessed data). So Microsoft could do any minor reworking of the data and send it off to the cloud for their own purposes, while technically complying with the above.

Soundhole ,

Also, Microsoft could just be lying.

mPony ,

now when have Microsoft ever lied before?
I mean, other than the falsified evidence they submitted during their legal battle with the US Department of Justice.

Soundhole ,

Honestly, it's less about trusting Microsoft than the inherently flawed nature of a closed source operating system. There's no way a user can tell what's really going on behind the curtain. Maybe that was okay before, but I think the capabilities of AI have pushed us past that point.

nekusoul ,
@nekusoul@lemmy.nekusoul.de avatar

Recall won't take snapshots of [...] DRM-protected content.

At least the movie industry will survive this unscathed. Thanks Microsoft. 👍

Mr_Dr_Oink ,

I guess im gonna have bee movie playing on a loop as my desktop background.

Dkarma ,

🤮

cmgvd3lw , (edited )

If its processed locally and sent nowhere, why is this a concern? Unless otherwise.

Edit: I phrased it wrong. If MS claims its processed locally, and is like a second eye, why they would provide an exception to DRM contents. This could mean that some data might get sent to MS servers and transfer of DRM content is banned, this poses a legal risk. Who knows.

Squizzy ,

Because I absolutely do not trust microsoft to not have some information going back to a server somewhere.

Skua ,

I think you've misunderstood the comment above. They're asking why snapshotting DRM-protected content would be a problem if everything stays local, implying that since it's a problem it does not stay local

cmgvd3lw ,

Yes.

Squizzy ,

Oh yes my bad, brilliant point

refalo ,

locally until the next automatic update.

nekusoul ,
@nekusoul@lemmy.nekusoul.de avatar

The non-fun answer is that they're most likely just using the default screenshot mechanism, which already blocks that. Other programs like KeePassXC, which also hides itself from screenshots and recordings (unless allowed) will probably not be included either.

morbidcactus ,

KeepassXC seems to register as DRM protected content (I think...) for me, kills moonlight streams while it's up so at the very least using a password manager (which you already should be using) would be protected?

I already daily drive debian on my lab computer and laptop, guest I'll be swapping my desktop over in the not to distant future...

cmgvd3lw ,

No more ventures into pornhub's 258 page to find the one video you watched 6 months ago.

refalo ,

they fixed that 30 years ago, it's called browser history /s

octopus_ink ,

Go fuck yourself Microsoft.

egeres ,
@egeres@lemmy.world avatar

I find the concept interesting anyways, does anybody know of an open source alternative?

billwashere ,

So Windows is trying to become Facebook?

spyd3r ,
@spyd3r@sh.itjust.works avatar

Probably trying to cash in on some sweet intelligence agency and law enforcement funding for helping the government bypass the 4th Amendment by supplying the government with your data.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

At a Build conference event on Monday, Microsoft revealed a new AI-powered feature called "Recall" for Copilot+ PCs that will allow Windows 11 users to search and retrieve their past activities on their PC bosses to even more easily spy on their employees.

unautrenom ,

Remeber when Microsoft banned some Xbox players for screenshots they took in singleplayer, local games? Because it turns out all screenshots were uploaded to the cloud without properly informing users?

Naaah... no way they're going to do that again.

merthyr1831 ,

I don't (never played Xbox til the end of its lifecycle) what did they do? 👀

WarshipJesus ,

That’s not even the best part. The best part is that some games will take screenshots automatically, by default. Some of the photos were then also uploaded automatically to Xbox cloud. Their automated system then banned players for sharing “prohibited” content.

Recently this happened with Baldur’s Gate 3.

https://www.slashgear.com/1511121/xbox-auto-upload-feature-how-turn-off-avoid-banned/

merthyr1831 ,

we do a bit of entrapment

dirtySourdough ,

Holy fucking nope. I wasn't planning on getting Windows 11 and this serves as a great reminder to make the transition to Linux. I've been thinking of picking up a raspberry pi 5 as my next desktop. Anyone want to share their experiences doing something similar?

aBundleOfFerrets ,

I would personally avoid the pi 5 for desktop computing purely because it only has micro/mini (whatever they call them) HDMI ports, imo they are kinda awful.

Also do note that being an arm device you will be limited on proprietary software and even among foss stuff will likely have to compile some things yourself.

(P.S. you probably don’t mind if you are considering such a device, but PC gaming on arm devices will take much more setup and the performance might be disappointing when using a x86 emulator like FEX)

trashgirlfriend ,

Yeah, honestly I don't see the use case for pi as a desktop.

It's cool to have it as a second device running little things you want to have up more of the time, but the desktop performance would be pretty limiting imo for most people.

werefreeatlast ,

Lol the little TV attached Lenovo PCs are pretty good for small desktops.

Baggie ,

Honestly with how that company is going you might be better off getting a cheap rig and installing your favourite flavour of Linux. I'm still salty their implementation of surround sound and video decoding can't use the actual power of the chip it's running on.

dizzy ,
@dizzy@lemmy.ml avatar

Wouldn’t go for a full ARM64 system (yet anyway). Too many software incompatibilities. You can pick up the lenovo m-series tiny machines used for dirt cheap and have full x86 compatibility and way faster specs + expandable storage/ram for (m93p tiny, m700, m720 etc). They’re a little bigger than a rpi and use a bit more power but it will save a ton of headaches.

Making the switch to any linux distro is a big jump already, you don’t want to create unnecessary problems.

dirtySourdough ,

That's a good point. I hadn't factored in the processor architecture at all, whoops. I've already got plenty of Linux experience though, so I just need to find hardware that can support a wide variety of software. Thanks for the recommendations!

ashok36 ,

You can get a decent five year old ThinkPad off ebay that will run circles around an rpi5 for most tasks. The price, after case, power supply, and storage won't be that far off either.

AProfessional ,

The pi is very weak. Just get a normal desktop. They have small form factor ones.

InFerNo ,

My kids use odroid c4 devices. Great for browsing and videos, absolutely no gaming unless it's old and native (quake 2, half life, ...) or browser games like blockpost. They play the bejeezus out of that. All in all pretty good choice. It being both Linux and arm reduces the attack surface a bit considering these are kids with internet access.

If you like the form factor but prefer x86_64 then you could look into UP board series.

LoremIpsumGenerator ,

Windoes gonna trash some SSDs

FRAnkly ,

Ministry of truth is officially scared about what you know because you have seen it so it maps everything you ever saw and puts it in context to forge a formidable cherrypicked narrative. Leave windows. Go foss.

gari_9812 ,

Welp, can't say I'm surprised at this point

aesthelete ,

The only thing this will be able to recall is me formatting the device and installing Linux.

gari_9812 ,

According to the article, this new tool automatically blocks DRM content, but not sensitive, personal data. It can't possibly mean Microsoft care more about copyright than people's rights... right?

AnUnusualRelic ,
@AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world avatar

I think it's more that they're more scared of big media corporations than of random users.

JackbyDev ,

Shout out to Hue Sync not working with DRM content despite the lights changing color for a moment so clearly they can sort of see it. I love DRM and HDCP so much 🥰🥰🥰😍💖

KairuByte , (edited )
@KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

To play devils advocate, DRM content is explicitly labeled as such, and is easily detected when it’s “properly” displayed. It’s likely trivial to exclude it from recording. Edit to note: I mean the video data itself is labeled, not the files. In fact most screenshot/recording software already can’t see DRM content out of the box. Try taking a screen grab of Netflix or CrunchyRoll (with a browser or app that has DRM labeling enabled)

Conversely, PII is notoriously hard to detect. It can come in infinite shapes and sizes, on websites, native apps, and images. And it is virtually never flagged in a way that you could programmatically censor it without heavy analysis of each frame. And then, unless you’re supplying it with all PII that will ever be entered into that machine preemptively, it would have to guess at what PII is.

Of course, none of this would be a problem if they actually took the time to explain what this was, and made it an opt-in with clear and concise wording on what it is that you’d be opting into.

But we all know that won’t happen.

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