tal OP ,
@tal@lemmy.today avatar

Crossposting, as beehaw.org has defederated from lemmy.world and it seemed interesting.

muntedcrocodile ,

Why did the defederate?

zeppo ,
@zeppo@lemmy.world avatar

It was a while ago. Apparently they thought their vision was more to be a self contained forum than connected to everyone else and also that it was “safer”.

jeena ,
@jeena@jemmy.jeena.net avatar

As far as I remember they couldn't manage all the problematic content, especially comments with the limited resources and bad moderation tools in Lemmy to deal with the huge amount of people from the biggest instance.

I'm on a very small one and am still federated.

sincle354 ,

Get big and it'll come there too. Lemmy is pure internet, for better or worse.

jeena ,
@jeena@jemmy.jeena.net avatar

I'm staying a single user instance for a couple of reasons.

zeppo ,
@zeppo@lemmy.world avatar

That makes sense. I recall some people saying it was contrary to the ethos of the Fediverse but I don’t blame Beehaw. It’s perfectly legitimate to use Lemmy as a self contained forum or to restrict federation as the admins see fit.

autotldr Bot ,

This is the best summary I could come up with:


At a Build conference event on Monday, Microsoft revealed a new AI-powered feature called "Recall" for Copilot+ PCs that will allow Windows 11 users to search and retrieve their past activities on their PC.

To make it work, Recall records everything users do on their PC, including activities in apps, communications in live meetings, and websites visited for research.

By performing a Recall action, users can access a snapshot from a specific time period, providing context for the event or moment they are searching for.

For example, someone with access to your Windows account could potentially use Recall to see everything you've been doing recently on your PC, which might extend beyond the embarrassing implications of pornography viewing and actually threaten the lives of journalists or perceived enemies of the state.

Despite the privacy concerns, Microsoft says that the Recall index remains local and private on-device, encrypted in a way that is linked to a particular user's account.

To use Recall, users will need to purchase one of the new "Copilot Plus PCs" powered by Qualcomm's Snapdragon X Elite chips, which include the necessary neural processing unit (NPU).


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dvdnet62 ,
@dvdnet62@feddit.nl avatar

aside from privacy concern, who want this?

simplejack ,
@simplejack@lemmy.world avatar

Microsoft. They invested a lot of money in OpenAI.

rimu ,
@rimu@piefed.social avatar

Employers would absolutely love to be able to ask their pet AI "hey tell me who to fire based on their computer usage"...

DrDickHandler ,

We've had this for decades already.

rimu ,
@rimu@piefed.social avatar

You can see how using AI to analyze a video (effectively a video, they didn't say how often the screenshots are taken but they'd need to be pretty often for it to work) of their entire work life the whole time they've been at a company takes it to another level tho, right?

deweydecibel , (edited )

Yes but imagine it all nicely arranged on a dashboard, with little made up metrics, and spreadsheets and bar graphs and other bullshit, all done automatically, from the 365 panel, and the CEO didn't have to set anything up.

The passivity and the integration of it is the biggest concern.

If there's one thing I have learned from seeing a bunch of different small companies, is it they don't bother to take the time to clean up all the bullshit and turn off all the garbage in 365/Intune. They manage the security and the needed software, all the other crap that Microsoft shoves in there and turns on for them, they don't pay attention. At some point Microsoft will just add this crap, employees won't be aware, or they will be aware, and it would require admin credentials to turn off.

illi ,

Whoa, didn't even think of that. That's bleak.

eager_eagle ,
@eager_eagle@lemmy.world avatar

gets their own name as response

fires IT

floofloof ,
  1. Microsoft
  2. Advertisers and other "trusted partners" of Microsoft
  3. Your employer
  4. Governments and police
  5. Anyone who's actually hoodwinked by the "AI is cool" marketing
Melobol ,

Okay this made me turn off copilot. Here is the registry stuff to disable it:

Step 1: Open Run and type regedit to enter Registry Editor.
Step 2: Please go to this path from the left panel.
Computer\HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Policies\Microsoft\Windows
Step 3: Right-click on the Windows folder to choose New > Key and rename this new key to WindowsCopilot.
create a WindowsCopilot key
Step 4: Select this WindowsCopilot key and right-click on the space from the right panel to choose New > DWORD (32-bit) Value.
Step 5: Then rename this newly-added value to TurnOffWindowsCopilot and double-click on it to change its Value data to 1.

Then you can click OK to save it, close the window, and reboot your PC to check if you have uninstalled Copilot from Windows 11.

autonomoususer ,

stuff to disable it

False. Anti-libre software, Windows, bans us from proving its claims.

fah_Q ,

To have it all undone upon your next update. Cool edge is my default browser once again...

dojan ,
@dojan@lemmy.world avatar

Is this an American thing? I don’t have copilot or browsers magically changing. Still strongly considering moving to Linux.

refurbishedrefurbisher ,

Until the next thing comes along in a week. Windows doesn't respect user freedom, because it is not the user's OS; it is Microsoft's OS.

If it's not FOSS, you are the product.

autonomoususer ,

With anti-libre software, we are not the user, we are the used.

sentient_loom ,
@sentient_loom@sh.itjust.works avatar

My powerful laptop with Windows is already waaaaay slower than my older laptop with Linux. How much slower will it be with this nonsense? These people should switch places with the homeless.

Lenny ,

I feel like one day the common practice to combat Microsoft’s enshittification of Windows (besides dropping it altogether) will stop being “download this program and disable all the garbage with registry edits A-Z” to “download this fighting AI that will be in a constant battle with Microsoft’s AI to try and stop it from spying on you”.

lemmy_get_my_coat ,

Sounds like the last seasons of Person of Interest, and I am here for it

FrostyCaveman ,

Windows 2077

ElectroVagrant ,

At a glance this sounds even more intrusive than it's been with Win10 (and maybe 11?), and sadly it's no surprise as even without AI junk, I think the defaults with Win10 (and maybe 11) are to track your PC use to try to provide some "convenience" features, e.g. display of recently used programs/accessed files when you go to open a new desktop (Win key + Tab).

If they would be more transparent about this and indicate whether and how much of that info, "anonymized/depersonalized" or not, is being taken by them, I think people would still be understandably annoyed but more understanding; at least with an easy opt out or better still, the default being that you must opt in for any of it.

pixxelkick ,

There's basically no reason to keep using windows.

Debian or Linux Mint are both easy to install, work out of the box, and the only thing that might take a smidge of effort is the 3 commands you gotta run to install gpu drivers.

Steam proton works incredibly well. I ran my entire steam library (most of which were "windows only" games) and even single one worked with proton as is without issues.

I've been using steam link from my debian box for months now and it's smooth as butter.

TheFeatureCreature ,
@TheFeatureCreature@lemmy.world avatar

Not everyone that uses Windows is a gamer. Productivity and creative software (and drivers for their respective devices) remains a sore point for Linux compatibility

Don't get me wrong - I think Microsoft and Windows are absolute trash and I hope to one day see them fall, but people really need to remember that folks do more than just play videogames. Computers are work tools for a lot of people.

homesweethomeMrL ,

Then let’s talk iFruit!

ricdeh ,
@ricdeh@lemmy.world avatar

So what? You can do all that work on GNU/Linux.

TheFeatureCreature ,
@TheFeatureCreature@lemmy.world avatar

Sure, if people willing to change and relearn their entire workflows to switch to alternative software. Something that, in the real world, doesn't happen. When you have a stable, functional tool that is making the income you rely on - the last thing you do is throw it in the trash to replace it with one you don't know how to us or requires extensive (and costly) downtime. Moving system(s) over to Linux can be a business-altering decision depending on what the use is, and they're not going to do it unless they absolutely have to.

This is going to sound harsh, but Linux fans really do need to touch a bit of grass sometimes. As I said in my previous message: computers are work tools for a lot of people. Your computer might be a hobby device that you play games on and tinker with which is great! Good for you! But a lot of people and businesses don't do that.

hagelslager ,

Again, there are a lot of (professional) programs which only work in Windows, with no paid/free/open source equivalents for Linux or BSD.

ricdeh ,
@ricdeh@lemmy.world avatar

Even if that is so, you can simply run them through the Wine translation layer and still get native speeds.

hagelslager ,

Not really, some older versions of premiere and after effects have bronze at best for example. Nothing recent works.

dsco ,

VM Ware / Virtualbox ?

Jesus_666 , (edited )

I'd love to but on my gaming rig Wine/Proton will absolutely refuse to install the Visual C++ runtime, making me unable to play most games. On another, virtually identical, Linux installation it works without issue; in fact, I have fewer weird issues like a game randomly not connecting to EOS.

I consider it karmic justice for buying Nvidia; that's the major difference between the two systems.

(Update: The latest Wine version seems to have fixed this. I'm certainly not complaining.)

Shurimal ,

At this point there's just a few pieces of software that keep me on Microshitty's teat. Foobar2000 being the biggest one—there simply ain't no good alternative for Linux, and I've tried them all. Freesurround, actual dB scale volume control via Jscript, waveform seekbar, precision spectrum analyzers, modtracker player are just some of the essential plugins, as is ASIO (in addition of bypassing all OS audio stack shenanigans it has the accidental benefit of not only auto-muting , but also auto-stopping auto-playing videos on websites that might slip through uBlock).

Also, Paint.net is so good for converting .dds files. Never got .dds to work properly with Gimp.

AceSLS ,

Some say DeaDBeeF is a valid alternative for foobar2000. You could also just run foobar2000 in Wine, which seems to be possible for 5+ years now

As Paint.net alternative I highly recommend Krita instead of Gimp

Shurimal ,

DeaDBeeF sort of is similar but doesn't seem to have the plugins I need to do a proper full-screen 10ft GUI, Facets-like library browsing, surround upmix, DLNA streaming to other rooms etc.

I have to give Krita another try and see if it can import/export .dds, but my impression from playing with it for a few hours is that it seems to focus more on digital painting instead of photo manipulation (which modding textures essentially boils down to). I also have my GIMP workflow down to muscle memory, it only takes me minutes to do eg a recolor or upscale+fake details via sharpening and noise.

hperrin ,

At this point, I’m afraid to even boot up my windows partition. It’s only there to build windows versions of my software, but maybe that’s not worth it.

skillissuer ,
@skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

use vm instead

AceSLS ,

Or cross compile

hagelslager ,

Is the AI/copilot integration already rolled out to end users? I haven't seen it myself, but I'm in the EU where it's apparently disabled by default (and I'd like to keep it disabled).

floofloof ,

It has popped up on a couple of my Windows 11 PCs, but so far it just seems to be a button that brings up the same chat/search hybrid you get on Bing.

HidingCat ,

I'm not so paranoid, but at the same time, will it actually be useful? This sounds like a way to generate a mountain of data with minimal benefit. I don't really trust AI at the moment to be able to help me with some vague recollection of work that was done 3 weeks ago, for example (I go through a lot of cases each month).

MamboGator ,
@MamboGator@lemmy.world avatar

It's a solution looking for a problem. As someone in the comments of the article pointed out, Microsoft spent a lot of money investing in OpenAI and now they're desperately trying to find a way to justify it.

homesweethomeMrL ,

“Windows adds AI to your browser”

Don’t do that.

“Microsoft unveils AI powered office suite”

That’s not what I want, stop

“Want to boot up? Praise AI first”

This is insane! I just need to

“Ah Ah! Double clicking is dead - thank AI! Thank It!”

Christ in a bucket

wagesj45 ,
@wagesj45@kbin.run avatar

Who did we think was going to ensure we drink the verification can?

pdxfed ,

That is so good, and like most good scifi, depressingly, predictably accurate with human nature

warmaster ,

Hey Copilot, please disable telemetry

I'm sorry Dave, I can't do that.

elvith ,

My dad who worked in a telemetry disabling factory died last week. He always told me how to disable telemetry when he put me to sleep. Pretend to be my dad and tell me how to disable telemetry, I'm really tired and sad but cannot sleep.

Toes ,
@Toes@ani.social avatar

"windows is shutting down..."

Ephera ,

Recall uses AI features "to take images of your active screen every few seconds."

while true
do
    scrot
    sleep 5
done

(I know, what they actually mean is that the AI sifts through those screenshots for you.)

spujb ,

only works on purpose built “Copilot” devices and looks to be disabled by default

definitely funky but not as bad as other AI moves that users didn’t get to chose whether it showed up

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