TheDeepState ,

No

ObsidianZed ,

What are the chances we get custom built/open source phones?

shortwavesurfer ,

Nearly zero

Dalraz ,

Closes one I can think of is, The Fair Phone https://www.fairphone.com

possiblylinux127 ,
@possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip avatar

Repairable, not free

SlopppyEngineer ,

https://learn.adafruit.com/piphone-a-raspberry-pi-based-cellphone/overview

This thing comes to mind. It's not exactly an attractive phone.

ObsidianZed ,

That's closer to what I was thinking. That is pretty neat though, now we just need to make it smaller and more modular, and I'm not sure of there is a CDMA option as well.

tsonfeir ,
@tsonfeir@lemm.ee avatar

I don’t want it to be “dumb” but I’m fine if it’s more “basic”

I think less technology would be pleasant.

possiblylinux127 ,
@possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip avatar

People are probably like 3%

Bruhh ,

I just want a repairable phone with a headphone jack.

Peffse ,

throw in a microSD card slot and I'm sold

tux7350 ,

The name is silly but the Galaxy XCover 6 pro checks all those boxes as a new phone. It even has the old style notification light, different colors for notifications.

dvdnet62 ,
@dvdnet62@feddit.nl avatar

dumb phone like flip phone it is still popular in Japan.

Potatos_are_not_friends ,

Gonna need proof of this.

Nearly everyone I met was rocking iPhones. It was kinda frustrating as a android user.

dvdnet62 ,
@dvdnet62@feddit.nl avatar

https://www.docomo.ne.jp/english/product/feature_phone/. they are still on sale and it is still popular for old people and business persons. Hell, even some flip phone model are even water resistant.

Meron35 ,

While certainly not the majority, feature phones (known as garakei) enjoy a cult following in Japan.

Bear in mind that feature phones in Japan were a literal decade ahead of smartphones in terms of features. They already had features such as GPS, email, internet browsers latest 90s and early 2000s.

The Mysteries of Japan-Only Phones — sabukaru - https://sabukaru.online/articles/the-mysterious-early-world-of-japans-cellphone-culture

refalo ,

define popular. iphone wiped out almost the entire phone market in Japan.

Dagamant ,

I want a dumb phone that acts as a hotspot for my tablet and other devices.

Someone64 ,

You can already buy those. They seem to commonly be referred to in online stores as ‘pocket wifi’. Just stick a sim card in them and you can manage their settings through any connected device with a web browser.

tal ,
@tal@lemmy.today avatar

Can't also use those as a phone, though, which I think the parent comment was intending.

Dagamant ,

You can’t use them as a phone though. And dumb phones that do somehow support tethering don’t do so at modern speeds.

GroundedGator ,

I had an LG and a Kyocera back in the day that could do that. They had some small non-connected games. Of course I couldn't do much with the hotspot as this was on 3G.

PugEnjoyer ,
@PugEnjoyer@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

I mostly just want a phone that doesn't want to sell me on new ways to use my phone that I don't already do. I don't want a phone that's constantly trying to get me to use voice search, or try out some AI feature, or a search engine, etc. I have a newer Samsung tablet, and by default holding the power button turned on voice search instead of the power off menu? I fucking hate that shit, it was thankfully changeable but it was annoying that I had to change it back. I literally never use voice search. I fucking hate talking to computers, I'm not talking to a machine unless it's actually capable of feeling offended if I don't

ilinamorato ,

B-but if they don't get better every year, the price will go down!

clark ,
@clark@midwest.social avatar

I'm not talking to a machine unless it's actually capable of feeling offended if I don't

lmao

mister_flibble ,

Not as far as "dumb" per se but I would accept "less smart" in exchange for physical buttons and a removable battery.

qyron ,

The removable battery is achievable by moving to Europe.

toynbee ,

This is an interesting interpretation of "achievable."

qyron ,

Nobody is discussion the level on convinience for it, here

guacupado ,

Did you have a stroke

PlasticPasta ,
@PlasticPasta@mastodon.social avatar

@guacupado @qyron

This gave a good chuckle, thanks :-)

qyron ,

Come again! We act all Mondays and Fridays!

qyron ,

Stronk. The joke is "stronk".

andrew_bidlaw ,
@andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works avatar

I don't want a dumb phone, I want a reliable PDA that doesn't hallucinate it's smarter than me. Older android on a current hardware could've been the best but it's not supported anymore by major devs. As a consumer, I don't understand why that's the case. I'm not interested in their new design choice or whatever they market it with while bloating the shit out of it, I want a low-powered portable PC to edit docs and browsing the web without eating through 8gb and 6000mah like it's nothing.

heavy ,

Some new competiton would be nice too. I remember when companies like Palm made their own competent OS. I wouldn't even mind if Windows mobile made a reappareance. What do people even need anymore except a versatile browser and the ability to play games?

captain_aggravated ,
@captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works avatar

Communication, GPS, web browsing, camera, occasional use as a flashlight, media player, and a multifunction clock. And yeah that's about it.

andrew_bidlaw ,
@andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works avatar

And make them with a high-rez multi-touch screen for old screens sucked ass at typing.

captain_aggravated ,
@captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works avatar

Screens suck at typing. Full stop.

andrew_bidlaw ,
@andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works avatar

It's true, but it's no longer a reality. Keyboards now can only happen in dumb phones or some luxury concept phones. It's against a couple of current paradigms: making phones easily replaceable, incentivizing quick and short-term usage, having full control over UI\UX, maximizing interactive screen's real estate, making sure you always look at the screen, and, besides that, engineering challenges that are kinda hard by themselves, but moreso they are in a conflict with banning replaceable batteries, holes for headphones and so on. We are out of luck.

Nevertheless, I'd probably do any stupid thing to get the modern version of something akin to that beast.

Nokia N9000 slider with a full physical keyboard

billwashere ,

Dumb phones don’t have all the gooey “track everything we do” goodness in the middle so I doubt it.

stoly ,

The new ones would surely do that.

TheGrandNagus , (edited )

Exactly. If dumbphones made a comeback, companies would simply achieve it by presenting the user with a dumb UI while the data harvesting would still go on in the background.

I guess there's the valid argument that you'd be doing less on your phone so there'd be less to spy on, but there'd still be spying, and much of it would simply be shifted to the user's PC instead of a smartphone. Guess what, spying is rife there too.

The answer to stopping the spying is privacy laws that put people, and their privacy, above tax-dodging multinationals.

stoly ,

I had the same take--less going on to exfiltrate.

Duamerthrax ,

I want a real software dev team for linux phones. I don't have programming knowledge, but I can pitch in for a reoccurring crowdfund to pay them. The Pinephone is nice hardware, but Pine64 has always said that they're leaving the software up to the community.

rottingleaf ,

People want these to avoid watching ads and being a guinea pig for their own money.

If something like Maemo was a thing today, would be different.

lolcatnip ,

So maybe they could just...not use apps that bombard them with ads? How hard is that?

aluminium ,

No, I rather have a smarter phone without all the current day B.S.

EatATaco ,

The article talks about this. You should try reading it instead of reacting to the headline. This is generally a good idea.

nexussapphire ,

I miss palm phones too.

Sam_Bass ,

Drop all the corporate inclusions and youll sell more

Evotech ,

Dumb phones exist though?

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