twig , (edited )

Fuck leaf blowers. I don't care if they're quieter. The term here is "polishing a turd." They don't really solve any problems. They're not good at removing debris, but just blowing it to a place where someone else will deal with it.

Also... removing debris on its own is a dubious pursuit, since "debris" could also be termed "stuff that holds moisture longer and slows the effect of drying soil during drought conditions."

Kcs8v6 ,

The majority of use my leaf blower gets I blowing grass clippings from the street back into my lawn. It keeps cyclists safe and doesn't make a mess on public travel ways. I think for that purpose they are a great solution.

Carrot ,

Yeah, I use it to blow leaves off my walking path and into my flower/mulch beds. Prevents me from slipping and helps my plants

Noodle07 ,

Yeah the rakes don't like it too much when you use them on the road too

bstix ,

A broom works fine for that.

Noodle07 ,

Not wrong

SoleInvictus ,

The gasoline powered blowers are also one of the worst polluting motors in common use.

twig ,

Absolutely. And all those emissions are taking place very close to a human's face.

Ozone6363 ,

I want you to think about how many leaf blowers are actually being used, and how many hours even the most inefficient small engine would have to run to compare to a single semi-truck route.

It's so incredibly fucked how you people miss the forest for the trees.

twig ,

So I promise I'm not trying to be a dick here. While what you're saying is essentially reasonable, it's actually not true.

The amount of emissions in these small, wildly inefficient engines is considerably worse than even a large pickup truck. The reason is because emissions standards, including the introduction of catalytic converters, etc. don't apply to lawn equipment. The result is that these don't actually burn fuel correctly, and spew out lots of harmful pollutants in a way that even large ICE vehicles don't.

https://www.edmunds.com/car-reviews/features/emissions-test-car-vs-truck-vs-leaf-blower.html#:~:text=Distilling%20the%20above%20results%2C%20the,than%20the%20crew%20cab%20pickup.

https://grist.org/technology/lawn-equipment-pollution-report/

Like sure, there are larger sources of emissions, but I'm kinda in favor of making changes that would offer a large benefit proportionate to the amount of lifestyle change needed to make the switch. As in, making this switch would be easier than not. These emissions produce no benefit to us, and they cost us a weird amount of money to produce.

Ozone6363 , (edited )

So I promise I'm not trying to be a dick, but do you actually understand the results from the articles you posted?

A basic mass balance on the claims implies a very narrow interpretation of "emissions". It doesn't even pass the most basic sniff test, come on.

Not only do those articles completely ignore CO2, what about the energy required to manufacture and transport the fuel in the first place?

Those studies focus on NOx emissions, a very small subset of overall environmental impact. They basically cherry pick the fuck out of what consitutes as an "emission", and ignores the massive difference in greenhouse gasses produced.

There are claims that running a leaf blower for 30 minutes produces as much "emissions" as driving a Raptor like 1 thousand miles.

Lmao, if you think a quarter gallon of gas from the leaf blower is "worse" than 100 gallons of fuel the truck would burn, you have to be mad.

Think about it for more than a couple seconds.

And even funnier about this, the solution for this shit is already here. Aside from commercial landscaping companies, electric is already taking over. Its basically a non-issue as far as realists are concerned.

Dkarma ,

Savage turnaround

SoleInvictus ,

Do you have any solid information to provide or are you just making vague allusions toward some unsubstantiated assumptions so you can justify to yourself being a judgmental ass?

It's so incredibly fucked how "you people" are judgmental shits who are busy jerking yourself off every time you can "well ackshally" someone.

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blubfisch ,

I actually see street cleaning teams here in Germany regularly where one person blows the dirt out from bike racks and from under parked cars and the other person sits in the big street sweeper to pick up the dirt. I think this is a very valid use for blowers. The blowers are electric, but I sure would.not mind them a bit more quiet.

MxM111 ,
@MxM111@kbin.social avatar

Now do the trimmers and the lawnmowers

Fish ,

What about hair dryers?

MxM111 ,
@MxM111@kbin.social avatar

Do them too!

topinambour_rex ,
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It been brought by Black & Decker, no ?

Imgonnatrythis ,

It looks like it was sponsored by black and decker but the whole article looks like an ad for Dewalt...

Chip_Rat ,

Black and Decker owns DeWalt.

Legendsofanus ,
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Can't wait to use this in Leaf Blower Revolution

Black_Gulaman ,
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Why not use a rake? It exercises you and doesn't pollute. Plus it can make you laugh if you see someone walk into it and gets slapped cartoon style in the face.

phoneymouse ,

Neighbor’s tree dumps leaves all over my concrete patio, every week. Rake doesn’t work well on concrete, doesn’t fit in every crevice the leaves fall in around my yard, and also takes awhile. Leaf blower does the job in 5 minutes. If you’re faced with this problem, you’ll pick the leaf blower over using an awkward rake for 20 minutes every week.

Also, leaf blowers are now battery powered, so concerns about gasoline emissions are not as much of a factor.

Sizzler ,

Battery-powered silent leaf blowers. We really are in the future.

KillingTimeItself ,

how they did it:

they used an electric motor.

kerrigan778 ,

They started with an electric leaf blower as a baseline. Theirs is 40% quieter than the current electric leaf blowers on the market.

KillingTimeItself ,

that's pretty cool.

Unfortunately not very many people seem to use electric leaf blowers here, and even if you were to transmute that addition to an ICE blower it wouldn't make a difference considering that the engine would still be loud as fuck.

Dendr0 ,

"Patent pending" and already picked up by a major manufacturer. So what this means is basically while it could be a good thing... the article is basically an advertisement for an upcoming product.

Not nearly as good a thing until it gets copied/the patent gets worked around. Also, zero explanation of what was actually done to accomplish this, so again, leaning more towards "this is just advertisement with extra steps".

Wrench ,

Man. People will be negative about everything.

New breakthrough that may change the entire landscape of an industry? Oh, we hear about breakthroughs every few weeks. Call me if it actually makes it to market.

New apparently game changing breakthrough that's already being taken to market? Boo advertising, we should just quiet launch it and see if anyone notices? Seriously?

Ghostalmedia ,
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IMHO, the thing that’s being promoted here isn’t the leaf blower. It’s the university’s engineering program and the opportunities it’s providing for students.

I kind of doubt someone has this University blog post in their deck of Spring 2024 leaf blower marketing initiatives.

This is the kind of stuff that the people managing internships handle in a company. Companies do this for talent acquisition. They don’t even do it for the cheap labor, because coaching students usually gobbles up a lot of your IC’s time.

Ghostalmedia ,
@Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world avatar

Good engineering and industrial design programs find opportunities for students to work with real companies on real products.

Back in the day I used to be the student that published stuff like this to our product design department’s website. The point wasn’t to demo tech or sell a product, it was to make the program look like something worth applying to and donating to.

If a brand was name dropped, it wasn’t because we wanted to sell their thing. It was because we wanted to let applicants and alumni know that we were offering real world experience with recognizable companies. It’s basically like a reverse internship. Department faculty finds companies to bring to the students, as opposed to students applying to companies.

0x0 ,

Too bad no one invented rakes yet.

wildbus8979 ,

You ever tied using a metal rack on pavement? It's about as pleasant as nails on a chalkboard.

bolexforsoup , (edited )
spoiler

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0x0 ,

Kinda, although recent vacuum cleaners are way less noisier than gas-powered leaf-blowers.

Dieinahole ,

Well now I want a gas-powered vacuum

BruceTwarzen ,

Jackhammers are so loud, haven't they heard of a hammer yet? I am very smart btw.

Fiivemacs ,

Jackhammer and a hammer are not doing the same job. Pickaxe is more akin to a jackhammer.

out ,

Okay

Jackhammers are so loud, haven't they heard of a pickaxe yet? I am very smart btw.

Faresh ,

What do leaf blowers do that rakes don't? I don't remember the last time I saw or heard a leaf blower.

aniki ,

This does nothing to address the lovely whirl of a 2 stroke.

catloaf ,

Electric leafblowers exist. That problem is already solved.

TimeSquirrel ,
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Wat? I can't hear you over the eeeeeeeEEEEEEEEeeEeeeEeeEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEUUMMbumbumbumbumbumbumbumbumeeeeeeeeeeeeEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

explodicle ,

Middlebrow dismissal. These are designed for electric blowers.

LodeMike ,

Yes its called not gas powered.

Ghostalmedia , (edited )
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This is about making an electric leaf blower even quieter. The students were not given a gas leaf blower to design around.

darklamer ,
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How could you possibly know this!?

Ghostalmedia ,
@Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world avatar

A spirt visited me and told me this.

Luckily that spirt read the article and watched the video in it.

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