Stack Overflow and OpenAI Partner ( files.mastodon.online )

From the official stackoverflow account: We’re thrilled to announce we’re partnering with @OpenAI to bring best in class technical knowledge and the world’s most popular LLM models for AI development together! This groundbreaking partnership with OpenAI will drive our mission to empower the world to develop technology through collective knowledge.
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doona ,

What the fuck? Didn’t they just announce that they’re banning all AI submissions from SO?

Appoxo ,
@Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Probably meant all but excluding their "own" products.

delirious_owl ,
@delirious_owl@discuss.online avatar

Is this to better detect and ban all AI from SO?

KingThrillgore ,
@KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml avatar

Hallucinations on demand

NigelFrobisher ,

At last I can copy and paste code stitched together from several different deprecated SDK versions.

bastonia ,

does your shit compile though?

EnderMB ,

It's funny how Stack Overflow was created because forums were shit for programming discussion, and because Q&A was dominated, sold, and locked down by Experts-Exchange.

Now, pretty much the second the final founder bailed (and jumped on the AI train) SO starts enshittifying its product...

NigelFrobisher ,

You could easily view the answers on expert sex change by bringing up the debugger, but it was never even worth it as the answers on stack overflow were better.

gencha ,

Enshittification had started in preparation of the sale years ago. Now with AI the platform has become worthless and their entire data set has been included in countless training sets. They are grasping for straws. Their active users decrease, as more and more contributors realize that they are volunteering their time to make others rich.

iAvicenna ,
@iAvicenna@lemmy.world avatar

well now when you ask OpenAI to write a piece of code for you, it will insert comments like

#I am not going to code this part, it actually exists in the following link which you should have checked before asking me

Shyfer , (edited )

Ooh will the link be broken half the time for extra Stack Overflow experience?

iAvicenna ,
@iAvicenna@lemmy.world avatar

yes that will be available in chatGPT 4

Hammocks4All ,

Maybe the point is to increase sass in AI

haui_lemmy ,
@haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com avatar

So now we need fedi-stackoverflow. Yo @dessalines any chance you guys have something in store? :)

dessalines ,
@dessalines@lemmy.ml avatar

Haha no, but we do have some things inside lemmy to make it better suited for question / answer communities, like the forum / new comments sort. But ya I'd be down to hear ideas on how to make lemmy better for that purpose.

haui_lemmy ,
@haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com avatar

The work you folks do is incredible. That said, the specialization of SO was quite unique: you need to ask questions to be able to answer them and you have to work your way up while being coached how to achieve it. I‘m sure you know that.

It keeps opinions at bay due to the strong focus on the context. Lemmy has a completely different purpose, more social, imo. Thats fine but it would need to be tailored to favor less answers in higher quality. Probably a reskin with a little added restrictions and logic? I can see how that would work.

Legend ,

Yeah this seem to be a nice direction to go in . You seem like a Dev who believes in their project and would rather better it than create a fuckton of alternatives for every single purpose and I do agree with the direction your going in and I hope you always stay in this direction and make Lemmy one of the powerhouse on social media front . I have great hopes for this project lol .

skullgiver ,
@skullgiver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl avatar

What would the advantage be? Federated networks are as open and accessible as you can get, they're arguably easier to use as a data source than StackOverflow. Richer in metadata, too, I doubt SO shares what individual accounts are upvoting what content when.

haui_lemmy ,
@haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com avatar

I doubt SO shares what individual accounts are upvoting what content when.

In that case we have nothing to fear I guess /s

For those born yesterday: Companies will always do company things. Shareholder value and studies showing that corporations act like psychopaths makes this clear.

Its not important that AI companies can read off of the fediverse but that they cant control the fediverse. As in „holding information ransom“ and „producing garbage ai/bot responses to push search results, etc.

Those who went through enshittification once should know. Those who went through it multuple times have to know that this is a one strike situation. If the owner of a proprietary platform goes this route, we need to look out.

Have a good one.

ulkesh ,
@ulkesh@beehaw.org avatar

Well I guess I’m done with SO now.

lars ,

They have been so done with me for aeons. God they’re awful people.

Moonrise2473 ,

I was done with them years ago, it's impossibile to ask something without getting the question closed

If I really need I try to use codidact https://codidact.com

But now I'm used to solve the problem by myself

delirious_owl ,
@delirious_owl@discuss.online avatar

Doesn't load without JS

Moonrise2473 ,

But nowadays everything requires J's

Even in 2008 using noscript required a massive whitelist 😆

delirious_owl ,
@delirious_owl@discuss.online avatar

Nah, most sites at least load content without is. Maybe the formattimg is off. But no content is inexcusable

delirious_owl ,
@delirious_owl@discuss.online avatar

Fortunately all the content is CC, so you can just fork the while site

jubilationtcornpone ,

Now you can have a computer tell you that you're an idiot and your question is stupid rather than actual person.

AnUnusualRelic ,
@AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world avatar

So much time saved, I hope there's a version I can run locally.

That could probably be a bash script actually...

ShellMonkey ,
@ShellMonkey@lemmy.socdojo.com avatar

So now you can have the devs that shun the cheat of having AI write their code instead copy-pasting from stack overflow's AI written code.

wischi ,

So finally they have a bot that closes everything because "duplicate" or "opinion"

tristan ,

Did they really need ai for that? Surely if they needed a script they could have just asked on stack overfl...oh

GammaGames , (edited )
@GammaGames@beehaw.org avatar

This is going to go well!

Edit: over 50 downvotes lol https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/399619/our-partnership-with-openai

RiQuY ,
Certainity45 ,

It's simply impossible to run away from Blackrock these days. Money sells self-dignity.

theshatterstone54 ,

Is Blackrock a major investor in either or both of them?

CluckN ,

Just by mentioning their name they invested 2 billion dollars into my comment and 4 billion in Puts.

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