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SnotFlickerman , in Americans Are Open To Cheap Chinese Cars. That’s 'Scary' For The Rest Of The Auto Industry
@SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

I mean fuck, if only we could get shit like kei trucks.

Some of us have been open to foreign vehicles you can't really get in the US for a long time. Oh well.

lemmus ,
@lemmus@lemmy.world avatar

Absolutely. So many sensible sized European cars aren’t sold in the US because bullshit market research says small car bad big truck good.

Moonrise2473 ,

But the European market is also pushing bigger cars and SUV.

The smart is now a 4 meters SUV

The Volkswagen up (small 4 person car) is out of production and they're selling nothing under 4 meters

The fiat panda (another small 4 person car) is in the process of being redesigned and the mockups look like a huge range rover SUV

Skoda, after retiring the citigo, has the Fabia that's relatively small (almost 4 meters) and the rest are huge

Most automakers are giving up on the cheap and small compact car segment, leaving a big gap for Chinese automakers

maynarkh ,

The smart is now a 4 meters SUV

Is it? I haven't heard about it, I've seen some weird concept picture, but the Fortwo as currently being manufactured is still the same 2.6m long car as it was in 2014 as per Wikipedia.

The Volkswagen up (small 4 person car) is out of production and they’re selling nothing under 4 meters
Skoda, after retiring the citigo, has the Fabia that’s relatively small (almost 4 meters) and the rest are huge

They are the same company. The Skoda Citigo and the Seat Mii are both just rebadged Volkswagen Up cars.

The fiat panda (another small 4 person car) is in the process of being redesigned and the mockups look like a huge range rover SUV

Those mockups are actually the redesign of the Panda Cross, which was an SUV-ish thing they introduced in 2014. Fiat still makes the subcompact 500, having recently made an electric version.

Some EU automakers are doing weird stuff, but if you look at the electric car market for example, at lest where I live, locally produced electric kei trucks actually outsold Tesla at some point.

Moonrise2473 ,

The smart fortwo has been discontinued a few months ago, replaced by the 2 ton smart #1

The fiat panda cross was just a fancy trim of the fiat panda, same size and weight just bigger bumpers and higher wheels

shalafi , (edited )

Nope, it's the government's mileage standards. If you make a truck with a shorter wheelbase and track, it has to hit higher gas mileage standards. Easier to make a big truck that's allowed worse mileage.

https://youtu.be/azI3nqrHEXM

Also, I did a brief stint selling cars in the 90s. One of the salesmen explained it like this, "What's the real difference in a big truck and a small truck? Same engineering effort, same production work, all that. Hell, same parts for most systems.

More steel on the big one, and steel is cheap. We can charge a premium for the larger truck."

cosmic_cowboy ,
@cosmic_cowboy@reddthat.com avatar

The massive size of vehicles in the U.S. is ridiculous. I think a lot of people would buy smaller, cheaper cars if they were on the market.

toastal ,

I think folks bought into SUVs since they were bigger & selfishly less likely to take more damage in a crash. As such, with SUV tanks everywhere, being a pedestrian or in a small car on the road on in an SUV’s trajectory can often lead to lethal injury.

bastonia ,

When youre that fat you need a big car tbh

GammaGames ,
@GammaGames@beehaw.org avatar

My absolute favorite vehicle, based on looks alone

nossaquesapao , in Banana Pi BPI-F3: Single-board computer and RISV-V alternative to the Raspberry Pi now available

Seeing functional risc-v devices popping up is so awesome! Not long ago, they were highly experimental. When I eventually find myself in need of a new device, I will probably get one with a risc-v processor.

zurohki , in A Staggering 19x Energy Jump in Capacitors May Be the Beginning of the End for Batteries

Headline is dumb. If capacitors are better at being batteries than batteries are, they just become the next generation of batteries.

ji17br ,

But capacitors aren’t batteries. Batteries store chemical energy. Capacitors store electrical potential energy. Electronically they behave much differently.

adespoton ,

Yes they do… including not holding a charge when the differential drops too far.

The real wins are in battery-backed capacitors. Charge the caps fast, then let them keep the batteries topped up.

SoylentBlake ,

That's what I do being off-grid. I have my battery bank then a series of Supercaps to essentially act as an on/off ramp//drawbridge and temper quick demands. Kinda like an inverse soft starter so this is suuuuper interesting to me.

delirious_owl ,
@delirious_owl@discuss.online avatar

Do you have a link to a guide on his to set this up?

WaterWaiver ,

Only for certain types of capacitors. In practice they can overlap quite a bit, especially with common aluminium electrolytic capacitors (these form & dissolve complex aluminium oxide & hydroxide layers on the plates).

davel ,
@davel@lemmy.ml avatar

Headline is not dumb. There are reasons to make a distinction between the two, the most salient one being that capacitors are several orders of magnitude faster to charge and discharge.

j4k3 ,
@j4k3@lemmy.world avatar

Capacitors can theoretically charge MUCH faster.

However the galvanic potential of lithium is as large as is practically possible. The galvanic potential is what really matters for a battery. Capacitors are nowhere near the joules per weight/volume.

Certainity45 , in Stack Overflow and OpenAI Partner

It's simply impossible to run away from Blackrock these days. Money sells self-dignity.

theshatterstone54 ,

Is Blackrock a major investor in either or both of them?

CluckN ,

Just by mentioning their name they invested 2 billion dollars into my comment and 4 billion in Puts.

impure9435 , in Github: Nintendo Submit DMCA Notices to Yuzu Forks

That's why Suyu runs their own instance of @Forgejo

Bitrot ,
@Bitrot@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

That’s when Nintendo reaches out to CloudFlare instead.

impure9435 ,

Not that hard to find another way to host the website.

AceFuzzLord ,
@AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee avatar

I hope they, at the very least, start something like an I2P website or some other presumably safer alternative than a normal webpage if they go after their site.

impure9435 , (edited )
AceFuzzLord ,
@AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee avatar

Hell yeah! Good on them. Let's hope Sintendo doesn't find out about this.

impure9435 ,

Even if they do, it's not that easy to shut down a Tor website. This usually only happens when someone runs a Darknet marketplace and sells drugs. Never heard of a onion site shutdown because of DMCA.

GolfNovemberUniform , in Windows 11 24H2 will enable BitLocker encryption for everyone — happens on both clean installs and reinstalls
@GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml avatar

It's not a completely bad thing but ehh there are serious disadvantages, especially for gamers. I'm just glad I use Linux and will keep the change in mind in case I need to reinstall Windows on my gaming rig.

Btw TL;DR of the article is:

Windows 11 will automatically enable BitLocker on clean installs and re-installs.

OEMs will be able to enable it even on Windows 11 Home with a special UEFI flag (whatever that means).

BitLocker is a full-disk encryption technology by Microsoft. It provides better security since the data on the drive cannot be read without decrypting it (especially useful if someone steals the device) but the data cannot be recovered in case of forgetting the password or system malfunctions. Also it greatly decreases performance of the drive (by up to 45% on SSDs). This makes it unsuitable for many computer users.

The feature cannot be disabled by native means. If you want to disable it, use Rufus and select the appropriate flag when creating the bootable USB.

dvdnet62 OP ,
@dvdnet62@feddit.nl avatar

The question is will this encrypt other partition that have other OS such as Linux automatically especially for dual boot users?

GolfNovemberUniform ,
@GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml avatar

Knowing Microsoft's behavior for many years, it might. If I had a dual-boot, I'd make sure I have a backup of all the important data on a separate device

9point6 ,

Bitlocker is a feature that relies on NTFS

Unless you've somehow been working with cthulhu and installed Linux on an NTFS partition, you're probably golden

skullgiver ,
@skullgiver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl avatar

Bitlocker leaves partitions it can't understand and system partitions (like the EFI ones) alone in my experience.

Dual boot users may have trouble accessing their Windows files if they don't configure Bitlocker to allow direct password unlock (I believe Windows 11 uses the TPM, possibly with a TPM PIN for interactive unlocking, which Linux can't use to access the drive). This isn't too difficult to work around, but it's an extra step.

dvdnet62 OP ,
@dvdnet62@feddit.nl avatar

I mean for instance. I dual-boot Linux and W11 atm. For some reason my Windows 11 needs to be formatted back because of the virus or etc or SSD replacement with fresh installation of Windows11 and of course bitlocker will be activated automatically after WIndows have been reinstalled it back from the scratch. Will this affect my other ext4 or Btrfs OS partition? or do I need to back up of my Linux important files on that partition before W11 mess up my Linux?

skullgiver ,
@skullgiver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl avatar

I don't see why it would affect anything but Windows' NTFS partitions. Unless you still use MBR boot, all you'd need to do after a Windows reinstall would be to re-order the boot entries in your UEFI settings. Bitlocker operates on partitions, not full disks.

You should probably still back up your important files, of course, just in case your drive randomly dies...

skullgiver ,
@skullgiver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl avatar

You can just turn off Bitlocker in the Windows settings from what I can tell. It just seems to default to encryption, like every other OS has for the last decade or so.

Can you provide a source for the 45% performance hit? The average consumer CPU can do a couple of GB per second of AES operations these days, so I wonder how you got to that number.

9point6 ,

Yeah it would only be that slow if you don't have a CPU with AES-NI instructions (which were introduced nearly a decade and a half ago)

Flatworm7591 ,
@Flatworm7591@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/windows-software-bitlocker-slows-performance

That number was only for random write performance. And if you have an SSD that supports TCG Opal and eDrive standard (IEEE-1667) for hardware based bitlocker encrytion then there is no negative speed impact.

skullgiver ,
@skullgiver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl avatar

No wonder the percentage is that high, the 990 Pro performs extremely well. I doubt the average gamer has an SSD that fast, though. But, on the other hand, the SSD tested has hardware encryption support, so by default the user wouldn't notice anything regardless.

I'd be much more interested in benchmarks of common consumer SSDs in their standard configuration. Hopefully some tech outlet like LinusTechTips will test this at some point; they'd also be able to test real life video game performance, which would be a nice bonus.

GolfNovemberUniform ,
@GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml avatar

Read the source. I just shortened it

cm0002 ,

like every other OS has for the last decade or so.

No desktop OS does, (Excepting the odd Linux distro I'm sure is out there), not even macOS does.

iOS/Android yes

skullgiver ,
@skullgiver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl avatar

macOS has encrypted the system partition since the T2 chip was introduced. Older hardware doesn't do encryption by default, but you'll need a device over seven years old for it not to come with encryption by default.

cm0002 ,

True, the system partition is, but not where actual user data is. That won't be encrypted unless the user enables FileVault, granted it does ask during initial setup if you sign in to iCloud if you do want to enable it, but it's default is off

Hubi ,
@Hubi@lemmy.world avatar

Since most people sign into Windows with their Microsoft account, does that mean that MS holds the decryption keys for your local hard drive?

9point6 ,

If you configure it to backup your keys to your account, yes.

This (at least used to be) an opt in configuration option

GolfNovemberUniform ,
@GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml avatar

Idk. I just made a TL;DR. I'm not a Windows expert by any means. There's no point for me in studying it cuz I only use it for gaming and don't even consider it as my main OS

Dexx1s ,

by up to 45% on SSDs

Excuse me, what!?!

I wonder where the average is for the performance reduction. Probably something I'll look into but I'd be pissed if I bought a drive and instantly lost even 20%.

Luckily, I'm not on Windows so I have nothing to really worry about but damn.

skullgiver ,
@skullgiver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl avatar

That's random writes, tested on a particularly fast SSD. Most consumer SSDs won't get to the 550MB/s random writes, hitting closer to 85MB/s.

delirious_owl , in Stack Overflow bans users en masse for rebelling against OpenAI partnership — users banned for deleting answers to prevent them being used to train ChatGPT
@delirious_owl@discuss.online avatar

Like AI doesn't know how to use the way back machine?

ashok36 , in College Students Say Tesla Is Canceling Summer Internships

A preference cascade by consumers leading to a death spiral.

Watch for tesla to spin off the vehicle business soon and refocus on batteries / energy going forward.

01189998819991197253 , in Dual headphone jack smartphone scores high in new reparability video
@01189998819991197253@infosec.pub avatar

This is a neat explanation of the purpose of the other jack, in case anyone was wondering.

iopq ,

Yes, but it's basically placebo if your headphone cable is of a normal length

01189998819991197253 ,
@01189998819991197253@infosec.pub avatar

I wouldn't say placebo. It's definitely doing something. I would say it's unnecessary in most environments, and probably definitely on a mobile phone. But to lift right out of the article:

You may be wondering if balanced audio is “higher quality” than unbalanced — the answer is no. Balanced cabling doesn't provide a better quality of sound than unbalanced cables. Audio source and the quality of materials in the actual cable's construction determine sound quality more than anything. However, balanced audio does a better job of eliminating noise, should it exist in your signal. In a case where extraneous noise is present, balanced audio will be clearer than unbalanced audio.

WaterWaiver , (edited )

I wouldn’t say placebo. It’s definitely doing something.

I would say this is still a placebo. Placebos always still do something. A sugar pill tastes sweet and modifies the sugar levels in your blood. The important questions are validity and effectiveness, not whether or not it does something.

Balanced audio will not eliminate noise in most of the circumstances where a headphone user hears noise. There are far more likely sources (the source file itself, DAC limitations, audio amp limitations, external sound from their environment, etc). It will help in some very specific circumstances, but that's like trying to sell snow chains to all car owners on the planet because you can claim that they improve traction.

If you do work in an environment where changing to balanced headphone signalling helps... why are you working with your head inside an RF hazard zone?

(From page): However, balanced audio does a better job of eliminating noise, should it exist in your signal. In a case where extraneous noise is present

Misleading.

Noise exists in all signals. Balanced audio only "does a better job" in circumstances other than what this product is being sold for. Discussing this at all gives it false merit anyway.

EDIT: Giving this some further thought: balanced and unbalanced signalling is mostly moot when you're an isolated device with one cable attached. From an RF standpoint you're not forming both halves of an antenna (dipole or monopole+ground). Electrically they both look extremely similar in this scenario. Your partially conductive human arms waving around will probably couple to RF noise better than the headphone cable.

01189998819991197253 ,
@01189998819991197253@infosec.pub avatar

Ah. Yes. I see your original meaning. I misunderstood what you had meant.

Balanced will reduce noise (in terms of RF noise, of course) significantly better than unbalanced, but the source of noise does need to be far enough away from the capturing device to not affect it directly and, therefore, be able to be negated by the balanced cable. However, the end user (listening to balanced vs unbalanced signal on a mobile phone) won't be experiencing a difference between the two (IE placebo affect).

Thanks for clarifying!

WaterWaiver ,

Balanced will reduce noise (in terms of RF noise, of course) significantly better than unbalanced,

In this situation I don't think it will at all.

I don't think that balanced vs unbalanced is actually electromagnetically that different in this particular configuration (see my edit at the end of above). Things like where the wire is sitting on your body and what pose you are in will probably affect RF noise pickup levels on the headphone wires much more than changing between bal & unbal signalling.

but the source of noise does need to be far enough away from the capturing device to not affect it directly and, therefore, be able to be negated by the balanced cable.

I didn't get into near-field and far-field effects. I'm not sure that it really matters here, but I might be wrong.

01189998819991197253 ,
@01189998819991197253@infosec.pub avatar

I was going off the few pages I read, including the one I linked. I'm far from an expert in this realm, so, really, I don't have any substantial argument for or against what either of us are saying. However, filmography, and the related foley artistry, has always intrigued, and I have learned from experience the differences between using a standard jack and an XLR, and I can say that the sound is vastly cleaner with XLR (at least on a set). The secondary jack on this phone seems to be to XLR what USB-microB is to USB-A (again, going off what I've read). You do make a lot of sense, though, in your posts, so I may be flat wrong here haha

WaterWaiver ,

learned from experience the differences between using a standard jack and an XLR, and I can say that the sound is vastly cleaner with XLR (at least on a set).

Your experiences were correct, don't doubt them. That would have been ground-referenced equipment, ie plugged into wires that eventually join a wall. RF interference would interact with that quite differently, unbal vs bal would be quite different.

Thteven ,
@Thteven@lemmy.world avatar

The practical reason people use balanced jacks is because they push more power which allows you to use headphones with lower sensitivity. I have a few pairs myself that would benefit from this, they have relatively low ohm ratings so the high impedance setting on my V60 doesn't get triggered when I plug them in and they are very quiet.

whotookkarl , in Americans Are Open To Cheap Chinese Cars. That’s 'Scary' For The Rest Of The Auto Industry
@whotookkarl@lemmy.world avatar

Not scary for the auto workers who want to work on them, build them, supply parts for them, etc or the families who want affordable EVs. More scary for the wealth class who didn't reinvest enough into updating their facilities and processes to stay competitive businesses. The government already gave them extra time with the embargo but that isn't going to last forever.

lmorchard , in Americans Are Open To Cheap Chinese Cars. That’s 'Scary' For The Rest Of The Auto Industry
@lmorchard@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Yeah, I'm a weirdo with a cargo e-bike. Love it, except when it rains or snows.

I'd love a sub-$20k street legal EV that skips the entertainment system and most other features. Just give me a weatherproof cabin with comfortable seats and a modest cargo capacity for groceries and small appliances. I'm only ever going to drive it for at most an hour around town and back. Maybe listen to a podcast from my phone. Stick solar panels on the roof and it'll probably always be topped off for how infrequently I drive. I'll rent something if I take a longer trip.

lemann ,

Yes, this please. Although I don't have a cargo bike, I load up all 3 sides of my pannier and fill a backpack with my cargo 😅

umami_wasbi ,
lmorchard ,
@lmorchard@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Yeah, totally. I'd also love to see like a rack of those for rent, every few blocks in my city. That'd be near perfect

GolfNovemberUniform , in Google Cloud accidentally deletes a financial institution account due to ‘unprecedented misconfiguration’
@GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml avatar

Tbh I do not understand why would a company keep their data on a service like Google Cloud

Vendetta9076 ,
@Vendetta9076@sh.itjust.works avatar

My company used to do this. Its cause we were incredibly stupid.

Chozo ,
@Chozo@fedia.io avatar

Money. It's a lot cheaper to let somebody else maintain your systems than to pay somebody to create and maintain your own, directly.

Aurenkin ,

Flexibility is a huge one too. Much easier to upscale / downscale.

GolfNovemberUniform , (edited )
@GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml avatar

No I meant that Google Cloud is very invasive. Why not to use a more ethical provider?

allywilson ,

Why do you think it's invasive? How do you quantify which providers are less invasive?

GolfNovemberUniform ,
@GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml avatar

Google is one of the most privacy invasive companies in the world. And judging by encryption standards, terms of service and privacy policies

settoloki ,

Are you sure you've not just read bad stuff without verification on the internet and feel the need to chime in on something you don't fully understand?

GolfNovemberUniform ,
@GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml avatar

Yes. I read Google's policies many times.

settoloki ,

Me too as a programmer that uses Google cloud to store government information. Which bit of the policy says they are going to access your data, shouldn't take you long to link it to me if you read them as much as you say. Unless what you're actually doing is spreading misinformation and bullshit.

ReversalHatchery ,

I'm not the one who you were responding to, but considering google's history, I don't believe anything they claim, because they have lied so many times in the past, and because every "privacy guarantee" they provide is practically unprovable. It's nothing more than wishful thinking to think that google does nothing with government data stored with them, with google classroom data of millions of children, and others. They have shown that they can't be trusted.

pupbiru ,
@pupbiru@aussie.zone avatar

b2b and audited security standards are a whole different thing - you deal with finance and health you’ve gotta prove to a 3rd party over and over that you have controls and technology in place to make sure you aren’t lying

this isn’t consumer BS

settoloki ,

If they lied about this and are accessing very confidential information I think my company would sue the giblets off Google.

You need to remember we are talking about Google Cloud, the enterprise services they offer and not Gmail and search engines.

pupbiru ,
@pupbiru@aussie.zone avatar

and you know the security standards that are achievable on google cloud entirely negate your point right? their cloud offering is a totally different beast

KarnaSubarna ,
@KarnaSubarna@lemmy.ml avatar

Money and Time – It's rather easier/cheaper for Organizations nowadays to outsource a part of infra to Cloud service providers.

GolfNovemberUniform ,
@GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml avatar

I meant Google Cloud, not cloud outsourcing itself

RegalPotoo ,
@RegalPotoo@lemmy.world avatar

Because accountants mostly.

For large businesses, you essentially have two ways to spend money:

  • OPEX: "operational expenditure" - this is money that you send on an ongoing basis, things like rent, wages, the 3rd party cleaning company, cloud services etc. The expectation is that when you use OPEX, the money disappears off the books and you don't get a tangible thing back in return. Most departments will have an OPEX budget to spend for the year.
  • CAPEX: "capital expenditure" - buying physical stuff, things like buildings, stock, machinery and servers. When you buy a physical thing, it gets listed as an asset on the company accounts, usually being "worth" whatever you paid for it. The problem is that things tend to lose value over time (with the exception of property), so when you buy a thing the accountants will want to know a depreciation rate - how much value it will lose per year. For computer equipment, this is typically ~20%, being "worthless" in 5 years. Departments typically don't have a big CAPEX budget, and big purchases typically need to be approved by the company board.

This leaves companies in a slightly odd spot where from an accounting standpoint, it might look better on the books to spend $3 million/year on cloud stuff than $10 million every 5 years on servers

TCB13 ,
@TCB13@lemmy.world avatar

Excellent explanation, however, technically it does not constitute an "odd spot." Rather, it represents a "100% acceptable and evident position" as it brings benefits to all stakeholders, from accounting to the CEO. Moreover, it is noteworthy that investing in services or leasing arrangements increases expenditure, resulting in reduced tax liabilities due to lower reported profits. Compounding this, the prevailing high turnover rate among CEOs diminishes incentives for making significant long-term investments.

In certain instances, there is also plain corruption. This occurs when a supplier offering services such as computer and server leasing or software, as well as company car rentals, is owned by a friend or family member of a C-level executive.

Kit ,

G Suite is a legitimate option for small-medium businesses. It's seen as the cheaper, simpler option versus Azure. I usually recommend it for nonprofits as they have a decent free option for 501c3 orgs.

njaard , in Dual headphone jack smartphone scores high in new reparability video

Man, this is looking really appealing:

  • Headphone jack!
  • Great global and US network support
  • "Honest" marketing of its cameras (lol!)
  • Huge :(

Now the only thing that's missing is if it's reasonably easily rootable, so I'll keep an eye on this phone.

Max_P , in Meta is now internationally limiting the political content you can see on their platforms. Here’s a quick guide on how to stop Instagram and Threads from deciding what shows up on your feed.
@Max_P@lemmy.max-p.me avatar

That's a good feature, politics on social media is just a cesspool these days. There's nothing worth seeing because there's no political discussion, just name calling, climate change denialism, racism and transphobia.

Meta's well aware that everyone's tired of that uncle that just won't shut up.

Woozythebear ,

No it's not a good feature... they will allow white nationalist propaganda and say it's not political but if someone wants to talk about a pride parade it will be censored as political.

How fucking stupid do you need to be to think this is a good idea?

drmoose ,

I think you're right that they need to be transparent with what is considered political and what is not through a visible flag or something.

Though it's definitely great idea to reduce weights on political content and discourage it. That's the only way to get off this swamp and if we have to sacrifice gay pride parade talks to prevent the rise of fascism and genocide then it's a pretty good deal imo.

dessalines ,
@dessalines@lemmy.ml avatar

Stay respectful while disagreeing please.

drmoose ,

Agreed.

Threads is actually kinda fun if not all of the spam and straight up harmless idiots. Meta is right for once.

There are plenty of other tools for politics and it's better kept in smaller more mindful communities rather than these pools of random algorithmic shit.

Confidant6198 OP ,

I disagree. It is not a good feature. Everything is political. The guide is trying to limit censorship of political content. Political content is what got TikTok banned. This account wants people to be political informed, and not to just drink the cool aid of western media.

Safipok , in A Staggering 19x Energy Jump in Capacitors May Be the Beginning of the End for Batteries

I wonder why I even read these articles. If these do turn out to be useful it will eventually make its way into technologies I use or buy near me. I don't have to hunt them out.

nondescripthandle ,

I mean the application isn't exactly arduous but they use capacitors in solar powered watches instead of batteries. They claim you can still get 80% of max voltage after 20 years use.

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