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Railing5132 , in r/sysadmin and the size of this community

The absolute only thing I go back to reddit for is the patch Tuesday megathread. I do dearly wish that info was here so I could cut ties completely.

possiblylinux127 OP ,
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I'm down to setup a bot

Railing5132 ,

We'd just need to lure a few suckers testers on the order of Taco to expose all the gotchas.

vk6flab , in Dumb Q: How to manage sw licences?
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Q: How do you eat an elephant?

A: One bite at a time.

Whilst you are faced with a multitude of issues, don't get lost in the weeds by details when you are trying to untangle the past to move it forward.

A simple spreadsheet to track hardware, licenses and other details like location, specs and primary contact is a perfectly reasonable starting point.

I say that because you don't know what you don't know yet. You might for example discover that some shops are doing their own thing, regardless of company policy.

Creating a ticketing system is useful to track stuff for everyone. I settled on trax with web access to people who need it, but the computer literacy levels might prevent some from using this.

Burnout is a very distinct possibility in an environment like this, so make sure that you set aside time for you to think. Call it a meeting, call it an on-site visit, whatever you do, take time to think.

Also, remember to backup your work. It's not unheard of for it to vanish unexpectedly if you are perceived as a threat.

Source, I've been working in this profession for 40 years.

lolpostslol ,

I’m not in tech anymore but must comment that I work at a major company in a dynamic field with young, ultra-qualified, ultra-smart personnel that is not horribly computer-unsavvy but I still think I’m the only one in the whole company who opens IT support tickets via a system instead of caling, even though IT pushes the system and even though you get good support via the system and horrible people by calling

vk6flab ,
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I see this everyday.

The ticket system is for the IT department, allowing it to track activities, keep abreast of open tickets, build a knowledge base and share information with colleagues.

Users benefit from this indirectly.

Of course, some managers use ticket systems to manage performance metrics. That doesn't work, but they'll never learn.

Bookmeat , in VMware security advisories are now non public (from Reddit)

Half the industry, if not more, is already seeking alternatives to vcenter, esxi, director, and the rest of the gang. Watch the install base shrinking going forward.

possiblylinux127 OP ,
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I think it is more than half

plasticcheese ,

We are. Where I am, the money men are (rightly) scared and we're looking at our options. I'm currently assessing Kubernetes as an alternative. The benefits to containerization are too great to ignore, but if we go that route, the workload to migrate our services is definitely going to sting for the next few months. Thanks Broadcom....

iturnedintoanewt ,
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How about Proxmox? It allows containers and VMs. Containers via LXC, but you could set your own VM to run docker/kubernetes etc.
Haven't had many chances to try Kuberbetes myself, so not sure the difference of advantages.

plasticcheese ,

Yeah, I use Proxmox at home and however much I love the product, it's not really enterprise ready. There are too many missing features and 3rd party integrations that come as standard with vSphere. Our future is probably in microservices. The cost saving benefits of auto scaling, while also being vendor agnostic are very attractive.

cyberpunk007 ,

Ye ol "free" hyper-v as well. Would probably be the next one I consider in a corporate environment after VMware just blew it's brains out. Containers are great, I run kubernetes at one on truenas scale but obviously it's Linux containers which may have some implications if the idea is to move everything off VMware to containers. Like if there are windows vms.

Nollij ,

Hyper-V is discontinued, at least as a standalone hypervisor. It's only available as an additional role on a full OS.

IOW, it's a replacement for VMware Workstation, not ESXi, and certainly not vcenter.

cyberpunk007 ,

I'm not sure what you're talking about. That's how hyperv has always been deployed. Install Microsoft server, install hyperv role. It's a hypervisor. Does all the fancy things like clustering as well, through the fail over cluster manager where you can view all your hosts, move vms from host to host, configure your witnesses etc. It absolutely is a competitor in the esxi space, never had quite all the bells and whistles but it was good enough for most applications.

Nollij ,

The standalone Hyper-V Server was last released for server 2019. Not only was this leaner than Server 2019 w/ the Hyper V role, it was available for free.

cyberpunk007 ,

Ok I'm not sure what your point is then. VMware clustering isn't free either.

plasticcheese ,

Just a quick FYI, Kubernetes is not just LXC. It can run just about any container type you throw at it. It seems like a superb platform :)

cyberpunk007 ,

Correct, it's not really accurate to compare kubernetes to lxc. It's a container orchestration tool.

IsThisAnAI , in r/sysadmin and the size of this community

Please for the love of God do not become the Internet door to door preacher trying to convert. It's obnoxious and a lost cause.

While this place is run by tankies and filled with 30 Linux thigh high photos you will never have a large community here.

Brkdncr , in r/sysadmin and the size of this community

I disagree. Merge with techsupport or even technology. Critical mass needs to be natural.

RootBeerGuy ,
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Fully agree. I see this sentiment so often, "we gotta tell people from reddit how great it is here!"
This might work with something like a meme community, but once it becomes a bit less mainstream you need people to make that decision themselves. It will look needy and annoying to try and "educate" them about how supposedly great it is here.

Alice ,
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Removed

Jarvis2323 ,

I agree with your disagreement. One of the biggest mistakes was folks trying to create 1:1 analogs of every subreddit. A single big community can have a lot of varied interesting discussions. If it gets too big, folks can get together and start a separate sub topic community for whatever topic warrants it.

moonpiedumplings ,

I agree with this.

Sometimes I've seen people complain about people using asklemmy for not askreddit style questions, but I actually think that's ok and I'm in favor of that as it means more discussion, content, and visibility.

Eventually asklemmy will reach "critical mass", and split into more niche communities.

whoisearth ,
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Yup I've thought about this recently and I think the big problem is people expect Reddit when Reddit evolved over time. Here you have hundreds of subs existing where the user base doesnt match the need for it.

Use Canada as an example. I'm sure on Reddit Canada started first then as it grew the need for provinces and cities. Here we have Canada and I'm sure provinces and cities. Everyone should just be in Canada. When the user base grows it will naturally splinter to smaller like minded communities.

We are trying to rebuild the wheel when the wheel is not needed.

BearOfaTime , in Dumb Q: How to manage sw licences?

If you're buying dozens of Office keys, then a site license for Windows and Office makes a lot more sense.

And those licenses are managed between you and MS. Then it's a simple count of Office installations and you know how many licenses you should be using. You typically do an annual license "true up" with MS.

catloaf ,

Or Office 365. Yeah, I know people hate SaaS, but businesses love it. Licensing is flexible and scales up and down as you need it. And you get major updates as long as you have a license, unlike when you buy 2021 Pro Plus or whatever, where you'll always be on 2021.

kurcatovium OP ,
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We recently had discussion on this too and 365 is also a possibility. Nobody wants to deal with MS and their licensing though :-D

catloaf ,

Libreoffice it is!

kurcatovium OP ,
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That's what we're using now and where quite some problems come from. I don't have anything against it, it's awesome suite for personal use, but running it in company we constantly run into problems with compatibility. Every partner we're dealing with is using MS Office and when they're exchanging spreadsheets or documents with us it's often pain in the a*s to make it work. And MS is not helping in this...

mp3 , (edited )
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If you clearly define your needs, it won't be hard to figure out which version you'll want. Then you don't really have to manage those office installations as long as you have enough licenses in the pool.

That's just the tip of the iceberg, you'll likely want to have something to centrally manage these computers, so something like Intune + EntraID to deploy softwares, manage the user account, etc will be an added cost.

kevin2107 , in r/sysadmin and the size of this community

Good. I can't stand the insane communities on Reddit. It's full of clickbait and grifters. There's small communities are what the Internet is about. We should be happy.

possiblylinux127 OP ,
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I agree that most of Reddit is like that. However, r/sysadmin is pretty good in my experience.

Kiernian ,

Except for the -sysadmin IRC channel. Gibby's always shilling his "fart in a jar" NFT.

MrPoopyButthole , in Dumb Q: How to manage sw licences?
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I always wonder how these relics make any money using systems that old. To do business with some of our clients, they audit us for ISO 27001 compliance once per year. Anything out of support would be flagged and we could lose a lot of business.

kurcatovium OP ,
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It's small grocery store chain in the middle of European nowhere, with about hundred of stores run mostly in small villages. Some of those ancient software was made in-house decades ago for internal ordering from wholesaler (also run by the company) to individual shops. Everything in wholesale warehouse runs on the same DOS thing too, with stock inventory, invoice, ordering, ... There's already plan to (finally!!) put it to sleep and replace with something newer and more flexible, but given how low on resources and manpower the company is, it's not going to happen fast.

catloaf , in Would love some feedback on this UniFi setup

Have you done a site survey? How big is the place, and what are the walls made of? If it's easy to cover, you might just get a cheapo Netgear, and set it and forget it.

I'd also look at mesh equipment (but NOT just repeaters). They're pretty good these days.

I hear Unifi equipment being recommended a lot less these days. And I imagine that you want something that's not going to take management and supervision, preferring something that will Just Work, especially if you're not nearby to fix it when it breaks.

Randelung OP ,

You're probably right. The setup they have now is an old netgear nighthawk with an AP to cover the second story. It works fine if it works, but it needs to be restarted when the prepaid internet shuts off and comes back. My dad rewired the AP and then wondered why it didn't work anymore.

There's the option of cameras where they can't make up their mind. If cameras I'd like an integrated system for everything, which is why I was looking for a modular approach. But if I use a Dream Router that's not even the case anymore, either.

I guess I have to tell them - once again - that we have to sit down and make up their minds about what they want. Then I can make up mine about what debugging options I want.

Cheers.

SMillerNL , in Dumb Q: How to manage sw licences?

Mobile Device Management software to keep track of what’s installed on devices (probably won’t work with DOS)

I personally use a password manager to keep track of software keys, but realistically you should probably look for a way to get licenses that doesn’t involve typing a key everywhere.

BearOfaTime ,

MD is a great idea to promote during this transition.

I've found you also need a company system that is independent of system management tools - some places use a help desk ticketing system, some use a change management system.

Some friends in the SMB space use a single system for their company (IT consulting firms) to track their clients, client hardware purchase dates, contracts, warranty, every change they make, Admin accounts, device ID's, their billable time, etc.

This way all info on a client is maintained in a single place in case (this is the important bit) you get hit by a bus.

That's a common refrain - "what happens if bob gets hit by a bus?". Can't have any knowledge dependent upon a single person, everything needs to be maintained in a single, accessible form, hosted on company servers and backed up.

Being a small operation, this could be a hard sell. Maybe an open-source help desk solution that you can host internally would be acceptible. The hardest part with that is defining roles and who has access to what.

Something you may consider - small orgs have difficulty documenting their systems (basically it's a lack of manpower, you got shit to do, and documentation seems unimportant). Since there's a transition, it would be incredibly useful to introduce requirements gathering and documentation. A typical model defines Business Requirements, which are mapped to System Requirements, which are then mapped to Technical Requirements (e.g. One Business Requirement will often map to several System Requirements, which usually map to multiple Technical Requirements).

Look into Business Systems Analysis, there's some intro docs out there for how to do this, it's pretty straightforward, and you don't have to do all the detail, just having some documentation is better than none.

kurcatovium OP ,
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Thanks for deep reply. I'll chew through it.

Documentation is non-existent now and that's what bothers me the most. I, at least, started to put my agenda and acquired how-tos to plain txt files for future, because with so much shit going on I tend to forget stuff. I'd like to extend it and make it system-wide to cover all the IT related stuff in the company with some proper software to do it in (no idea which). But there's virtually no way this lack of documentation will change dramatically anytime soon. There's simply no will from higher ups and even if there was, there would be no manpower to do it :-( We're barely holding things running.

BearOfaTime , (edited )

Here's an idea, since you're an MS shop - OneNote.

My SMB consultant friends use it as a secondary, shared, more comprehensive and free-form way to track system docs, changes, etc.

It's so easy to use, just using it yourself will sell it to other people in the company, besides giving you a single place to store stuff (that can easily be shared or copied elsewhere when needed).

When someone asks "where's this" and you can pull it up in seconds in OneNote, they'll be impressed.

Just don't use the Universal app version of OneNote, or use OneDrive - use the full version included with Office. I'm still using OneNote 2016,though I think there's a 2022 version (I keep all notebooks in the 2016 version just in case)

Store your OneNote files on a file share (that gets backed up, and that you can control access), so it only syncs locally. You won't get mobile device sync this way, but it never leaves the premises, and it's not sensitive to OneDrive issues (I've seen OneDrive hose a notebook). (You can do mobile device sync if you store notebooks on a SharePoint server).

I have a personal notebook I work from, plus a work notebook (which is just mine, not shared). I then create other notebooks as needed - I have an IT Reference notebook with saved web pages and docs of how to fix problems. My personal notebook has a section for a current laptop rebuild, with a spreadsheet embedded that I open every day to track changes and problems.

OneNote auto syncs between all devices using a given notebook. You can copy anything into it, even zip files or executables (don't do this, since OneNote keeps 3 copies of a notebook locally - working version, cache, and backup).

Last year I started using the PARA model for my notebooks, and it's a huge help with business stuff: one notebook with section groups (Tabs) for Projects, Area of responsibility, Resources, Archive. I've added a fifth section, Reference, to my work notebook.

I do things like share emails from outlook to OneNote - it puts the email in there with all it's info, then I can add notes as needed for reference. Great for tracking Approvals.

If you start using OneNote, there are numerous paid and free add-ons for it that really extend its ability to sort, search, layout, edit, etc, such as OneMore and NoteGem. Just the calendar showing notebook changes is worth installing either one, but the section and page sorting is a massive help.

I have 15 years of nitebooksbat this point - be judicious in setting up and organizing your notebooks. I've found the idea of Archiving to be hugely helpful.

faebudo , in VMware security advisories are now non public (from Reddit)

This makes only sense, given that they have a dedicated investors.broadcom.com page but no security.broadcom.com you can see where their focus is.

secret300 , in r/sysadmin and the size of this community

Is the sysadmim reddit still used by people? Get them to switch on over. I don't get why they haven't already. Link this community in the sidebar on Reddit and pin a post saying we moved to Lemmy

possiblylinux127 OP ,
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It does not say that

secret300 ,

It doesn't say "As far as growth goes, I think we need to get the word out. A lot of people just do not know that Lemmy is a thing."?

possiblylinux127 OP ,
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I don't get your point

DigitalDruid , in Req.Incoming Email NOT my Focus? Client/Server

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  • MNByChoice OP ,

    I have filtering, but those all happen after the mail is in the Inbox. I get a quarter second of crazy emails and previews and things moving, then they are gone. (Outlook sucks.)

    I don't even want to see that shit.

    NightAuthor , in r/sysadmin and the size of this community

    Did you know that: apart is actually the opposite of a part.

    wizardbeard , in Req.Incoming Email NOT my Focus? Client/Server
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    Outlook has "rules" you can configure to route incoming mail into different folders and mark as read (if you have access to their web client, configure the rules there so they run even when the desktop client is closed).

    I know Google's web interface has similar features. If it's not built into Thunderbird then I'd be shocked if there wasn't an extension for it.

    MNByChoice OP , (edited )

    Interesting. I have never noticed these. Have any names?

    Good idea about the online Outlook. I forgot about that.

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