snooggums ,
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A smartphone is a pocket TV.

BeatTakeshi OP , (edited )
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How do you call yours though?

A smartphone is ALSO a pocket TV is what you mean. It's not the other way round is what I mean.

"The iTV 6 Pro can now make phone calls"

ALostInquirer ,

if you primarily watch videos with your smartphone, couldn't you call it a pocket tv?

https://media1.tenor.com/m/QLbV11ltA8cAAAAC/smart-thinking.gif

BeatTakeshi OP ,
@BeatTakeshi@lemmy.world avatar

I know it's semantics, but if your great-gramps would time travel to today, he would ask about your pocket TV, and you would reply nah, it's a smartphone

MxM111 ,
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Which is actually not smartphone, but a general purpose computer with cell internet connection that can be used for many things, one of those is actually calling.

RampantParanoia2365 ,

Or, I would reply yes, totally. It's called a smart phone, and load up the literal television app called YouTube TV

NoIWontPickAName ,

No, because your smartphone needs internet, tv signals reach way more places, and more reliably.

Especially since broadcast tv, in America ya damn Limeys, is free, while internet is either very localized (WiFi, etc…) which may or may not be free, or wide spread (Cell phones, Satellites, etc…) which are definitely pay.

BorgDrone ,

Do they?

I can watch my local TV channels from the other side of the planet. I don’t think the signal reaches that far.

NoIWontPickAName ,

With internet

BorgDrone ,

Your point?

NoIWontPickAName ,

That that is the difference to me, a tv has a built in tv tuner, otherwise it is a streaming device.

BorgDrone ,

So? Not sure why the difference matters. What is even the use or a tuner anymore?

NoIWontPickAName ,

Tuning into OTA broadcasts.

BorgDrone ,

Which has significantly worse picture quality than cable or fiber, has fewer channels and isn’t even significantly cheaper

NoIWontPickAName ,

Free is absolutely cheaper than paying anything

BorgDrone ,

Here you get a grand total of three shitty channels for free OTA. Anything more requires a subscription.

NoIWontPickAName ,

Oh no.

Here, in the middle of nowhere, like a town with 1500 people was the biggest thing in 20 miles or so, we got about 10-15 channels without even having the antenna outside the house, plus surrounded by forest.

BorgDrone ,

We have more OTA channels, you just have to pay for them. The free channels are in shitty SD quality (you have to pay for HD) and they are only unencrypted because the government requires it (as they are used for emergency broadcasts).

NoIWontPickAName ,

That sucks

TheAgeOfSuperboredom ,
ALostInquirer ,

Would this require feeding it batteries like a triggerhappy machine gunner?

BeatTakeshi OP ,
@BeatTakeshi@lemmy.world avatar

And a carry pouch

TheAgeOfSuperboredom ,

Probably! According to Wikipedia you get 3-5 hours off of 6 AA batteries. Not sure how that changes with the TV tuner but battery life wasn't great.

deweydecibel ,

The antenna doesn't need power to receive the signal, unless it's boosted, but something tells me that's not the case here.

What might consume more power would be any kind of decoding that's going on.

grue ,

Absolutely! (Same as playing a regular game on a Game Gear.)

I had both an AC adapter and a 12VDC car adapter for mine. Without those (considering the sorry state of rechargeables back then), the cost of batteries would've made actually using the damn thing untenable.

NoIWontPickAName ,

Look, I tried, and failed, to come up with a joke involving bonking something on the head, but they all got too wordy.

That thing was heavy as hell, especially with all those batteries.

Davel23 ,

The Turbo Express also had a TV tuner add-on.

spookex ,

The PSP also had that type of attachment here in Japan, but it uses the 1-seg standard that IIRC was made for phones and still exists

DigitalDruid ,

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  • BeatTakeshi OP , (edited )
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    But it's only ever been niche. Or gimmick is probably more appropriate

    partial_accumen ,

    So really its:

    Because of primitive battery technology, ubiquitous pocket TVs were never a thing.

    brygphilomena ,

    I disagree, the watchman and clones existed into the 2000s and were tech found in several households. Ours ended up with some of the tornado kit so we could get news broadcasts in power outages and other emergencies.

    Gimmick/niche isn't an appropriate description for technology that was superceded by smartphones, even early ones.

    Boozilla ,
    @Boozilla@lemmy.world avatar

    I think some of the folks in this thread might enjoy the Techmoan channel on YouTube. It's not about pocket TVs in particular, but he does review and restore old AV tech. It's a fun channel if you're into retro tech.

    NoIWontPickAName ,

    If we’re gonna rep tech YouTubers, I am honor bound to mention Technology Connections.

    Now, if you’ll excuse me, I’m off to buy 2 of something.

    Boozilla ,
    @Boozilla@lemmy.world avatar

    Love Technology Connections. I learned way too much about pinball machines thanks to thay guy.

    originalucifer ,
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    i had several battery operated 'pocket' tvs of various sizes... 80s/90s.. the best being the watchman...

    somewhere around 2005 i saw one in a mall, used, for sale. i remember thinking it would only be valuable for a few more months as they were about to switch everything to 'digital broadcast' and it would be completely useless.

    UpperBroccoli ,

    I had one that had the same form factor as a gameboy. It was black, the screen had a resolution so tiny you could not really make anything out, and it was almost impossible to get a stable signal. But I loved it when I was 12 years old, because I was only allowed to watch tv for an hour every day, and nobody knew I had that tiny TV which I bought from the money I made delivering flowers.
    I still have it in a box somewhere.

    Edit: this

    possiblylinux127 ,
    @possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip avatar

    That is really cool

    snownyte ,
    @snownyte@kbin.social avatar

    And tablets killed those digital picture frames. Because why have those when you can just prop a tablet down and have it on slideshow mode.

    BeatTakeshi OP ,
    @BeatTakeshi@lemmy.world avatar

    Indeed

    Meron35 ,

    No? Searching for "digital picture frame" brings up pages of results. These are popular enough because they are much cheaper than an equivalently sized tablet, e.g. a 10 inch digital picture frame details for around $150, which is less than half the price of a crappy android tablet.

    Also, tablets don't really exceed 12 inches or so in size, but you can get digital picture frames as large as TVs.

    snownyte ,
    @snownyte@kbin.social avatar

    $150 is cheap to you? Um, okay then...

    gregorum ,
    @gregorum@lemm.ee avatar

    Because of smartphones, they ARE a thing!

    BeatTakeshi OP ,
    @BeatTakeshi@lemmy.world avatar

    You don't call them that is what I meant

    possiblylinux127 ,
    @possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip avatar

    You mean the call meant what?

    NoIWontPickAName ,

    Only with Internet

    captain_oni ,

    Before the analog blackout, some phones had both radio and TV apps. They even came with an adjustable antennae.

    hedgehog ,

    I had a pocket TV back in 2007 or so. It had an antenna and everything. It was a bit bulky and not at all power efficient, though. IIRC it went through 8 AA batteries in about 3 hours.

    I’m not sure why you’d want that over a smartphone or even just a small tablet, though.

    Also, we have flying skateboards, they’re just prohibitively expensive or not yet being sold. Look up the ArcaBoard (was $20k back in 2015, doesn’t seem to be sold anymore), the Lexus Hoverboard, and the Flyboard Air. Unfortunately if you try to buy a “hoverboard” you’re just gonna end up with an electric scooter

    dual_sport_dork ,
    @dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world avatar

    There absolutely were pocket TV's. As a kid, even, I owned two of them. They are now of course functionally useless because they predate the switch to digital television by a significant margin. Both of mine were Realistic brand ones, which was an in store label for Radio Shack. Color LCD displays, telescoping antenna, and they ran off of 4 AA batteries. They were about the size of an OG Gameboy or a large Walkman.

    I might even still have one in a box of tech junk somewhere. I believe the second one was a Realistic Pocketvision 27.

    You can still buy a portable digital TV. These were always a bit of a stretch for a "pocket" television, more the size of a small tablet but thicker. But they totally did, and still do, exist.

    Guntrigger ,

    As most of the other comments point out, pocket TV did exist and you have exposed yourself as:

    1. Younger than the smartphone
    2. Never watched a 90's movie with a security guard in it
    BeatTakeshi OP , (edited )
    @BeatTakeshi@lemmy.world avatar

    Both wrong

    1. 1st smartphone Galaxy Spica age 26

    2. These TV wouldn't fit in your jeans

    You missed the point of my very unelaborate shower thought. I see how not being a thing could be understood as never existed. I meant a big thing like, you know, smartphones

    MrFappy ,

    Watch season 1 episode 8 of friends, Joey has a pocket tv to watch the football game at a funeral.

    ChicoSuave ,

    And that was mid 90s, 10 years before the hand tablets of today.

    BeatTakeshi OP ,
    @BeatTakeshi@lemmy.world avatar

    (...)a big thing like, you know, smartphones

    spongebue ,

    Cargo shorts were in style at the time, so there's that

    RampantParanoia2365 ,

    I'm unsure what you think Netflix or YouTube TV are, but they are indeed on my smart phone, which goes in my pocket.

    SauceBossSmokin ,

    I lived in Seoul, S. Korea back in 2012 and my Samsung Galaxy S3 phone (maybe a Galaxy S2) I got over there had a built-in TV tuner that picked up several OTA Korean TV channels. It was crazy that the phones had that. I barely spoke or understood Korean so I didn't use the feature but it was super cool that the option existed.

    NoIWontPickAName ,

    I miss fm radio tuners in phones.

    There are so many neat features that they just gave up on.

    I’m typing this on s motherfucking phone that can detect doors and measure at a distance, really really fucking accurately somehow, has all kinds of other fancy shit, but I can’t use it to listen to the radio without internet.

    Fucking smart devices killed so much cool shit.

    Don’t get me wrong it’s awesome that I can change the channel on my tv from damn near anywhere if I have to remotely fix it and all, but I’ve never once had to do that.

    I used to play shit on the Alexa to mess with the wife and kids from wherever, but that got old quick.

    Although, my ex-wife does still have that thing, and we are still sharing an Amazon account…

    DannyBoy ,

    Funnily enough the bottom of the barrel budget phones usually have an FM tuner. My 2021 Motorola has one.

    MxM111 ,
    @MxM111@kbin.social avatar

    And cars killed horses. Sometimes literally.

    guyrocket ,
    @guyrocket@kbin.social avatar

    Sweet summer child. It was a thing.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_Watchman

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