Never buy .xyz

I just wanted to post this here because I want to help you all and hurt gen.xyz as much as possible. I had a .xyz domain through njal.la which I used to host jellyfin, homeassistant, and other basic things for friends and family. My domain recently became inaccessible without any notice. After a while of troubleshooting, I found that it had been reported to xyz as abuse, and they must have done zero investigation whatsoever before serverholding my domain. I thought about opening a ticket with xyz to get my domain back, but realized that I no longer wish to buy from some shitty company that will take down any site without warning. Bought a .com domain since they are somewhat reputable, and I would advise everyone here to never buy a .xyz domain. Angry rant over.

earmuff ,

Also, don‘t use it for any mail servers. Spam Assassin gives a negative score by default on *.xyz domains. Stupid as shit, but I had to learn the hard way.

Flax_vert ,

Xyz domains always look sketchy, sorry.

earmuff ,

Agree. I just got it for fun and because it was cheap. I used it for my disposable e-mail addresses but now switched to .org

umami_wasbi ,

Shit. I have my peraonal domain hosted on .xyz for email. Guess time to migrate. Any TLD suggestions?

kilgore_trout ,
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If you live in Europe, .eu

rickyrigatoni ,
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If you live on the Cook Islands you get to use .co.ck!

chiisana ,
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Locks can happen by registrar (I.e.: ninjala, cloudflare, namecheap etc.) or registry (I.e.: gen.xyz, identity digital, verisign, etc.).

Typically, registry locks cannot be resolved through your registrar, and the registrant may need to work with the registry to see about resolving the problem. This could be complicated with Whois privacy as you may not be considered the registrant of the domain.

In all cases, most registries do not take domain suspensions lightly, and generally tend to lock only on legal issues. Check your Whois record’s EPP status codes to get hints as to what may be happening.

HumanPerson OP ,

I'm on a new domain now anyway. I will be more careful on this one, but I suspect they just didn't look into it. I do really appreciate that you seem to be both knowledgeable and not an asshole. That seems to be a rare combination to find in this thread.

Oisteink ,

That’s the main difference between lemmy and early reddit. Reddit had good info from knowledgeable people, and moderation. Here it seems most are 8 years old with 0 knowledge talking shite. Voting to “prove their point”. Like downvoting your reply.

HumanPerson OP ,

Sorry to see you got downvoted for saying something that Reddit did better than Lemmy. I think a lot (though probably not the majority) of lemmings as well as people invoiced in open source can't take criticism, especially of an open source project they care about. It is unfortunate as it negates a lot of the benefits of open source / free software.

Oisteink ,

I don’t care about internetpoints, and I’ve given up hopes for lemmy as a platform. There's too many subs compared to people, so people are smeared too thin out.

Reddit had soul back then. It was fresh, new, different. Lemmy is just a bleak copy of Reddit, missing quality content and people.

peskywarrior ,

Just wanted to say in case others see this, you can buy a .xyz domain from reputable places (maybe for a higher cost). I believe the OP is talking about the specific site 'gen.xyz'.

I have an xyz domain with Cloudflare, host many things on it (like Jellyfin), and haven't had any issues yet.

Edit: as many have pointed out, my understanding of registrars was wrong and gen.xyz actually owns all xyz tlds. Sleep in fear if you own one I suppose

SnotFlickerman ,
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Cloudflare can still go bad, but its usually for high-capacity users who are using way more than the average. I haven't seen any homeserver users get hit with any trouble, but I've seen a couple small businesses have bad situations with Cloudflare, although it honestly seems like the minority.

Cloudflare has issues but for most its probably fine.

OpticalMoose ,
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Thank you for that explanation. My regex impaired ass thought he wanted to hurt generation[x|y|z].

I'm like "what'd we ever do to you?"

HumanPerson OP ,

No, I'm in that category too lol.

threelonmusketeers ,

As is everyone born between 1965 and 2015, which is quite a few people.

viking ,
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The thing is that gen.xyz is the registrar itself, i.e. the highest authority for this tld. If they blacklist domains, you're screwed.

HumanPerson OP ,

I bought from njal.la. they were almost entirely unhelpful but pointed me to the site for the tld. It appeared through their wording that gen.xyz who owns the xyz tld was responsible for taking the domain down. I bought my new domain through porkbun tho.

SaltySalamander ,
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gen.xyz controls all .xyz domains, even yours. Doesn't matter where you registered it.

Kiwi ,

That’s not how domains work.

slazer2au ,

Yeah the cheaper the domain the more likely it is for abuse to occur and your own domain to be lumped into that category.

TWeaK ,

I mean, a jellyfin server is typically full of copyright protected material. I also wouldn't expect them to notify you in advance, however they should still send some notice when they stop providing the service you've paid for.

givesomefucks ,

Yeah, dude tried to open his own personal Netflix and is surprised it got taken down.

From post history he managed to keep it up for less than a month.

I'm betting by "friends" he meant either online friends he's never met, or people he wanted to impress.

So they gave zero fucks and handed it out to more people. Like, just the idea that you're giving it to so many people that you actually buy a domain?

There's a reason everyone isn't already doing it already.

HumanPerson OP ,

I kept it up for more than a year. By friends I mean like 3 people I know in real fucking life, and I made them all set secure passwords. Way to assume the worst about people, it is a very healthy attitude to have.

oldfart ,

This whole thread is depressing to read, full of corporate bootlickers putting blame on you.

HumanPerson OP ,

It typically is, and I won't comment on whether mine is, but that isn't enough reason to take it down. I was quite careful about who I gave access to, as well as making sure people had secure passwords. It is highly unlikely that anyone got in and saw any copyright violation before reporting it.

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