After eight years, i resigned as a moderator of my community

I've been the main moderator of the same community since 2016. This evening, i approved my last comment.

I'm leaving for two reasons:

  1. Reddit went public a week ago. I didn’t volunteer to work for a publicly traded company, i volunteered to work for a community. As long as i live under capitalism i accept that my labor will generate value for shareholders, but damned if i ever do it for free. (this is not a Faulkner quote)

  2. April 1st is coming and i'm scared they might do another r/place. Doing in r/place 2022 and 2023 has left me dejected and bitter and i don't want to feel obligated to participate again.

Leaving felt like ripping myself off of something warm i've been comfortably glued to for a long time. Still recommend it for anyone still giving Reddit shareholders free labor

RedditWanderer ,

Lmao. Oh no! Leopards ate your face? Nobody could have seen this coming!! Anyways...

This has always been the goal of reddit and we've known this since the exodus of 3rd party apps. You're basically a traitor who kept going and helped Reddit IPO, and youre the only one who is surprised.

thawed_caveman OP ,

I'm not the one with 'Reddit' in my username.

RedditWanderer , (edited )

What does that have to do with anything? At least I'm not on reddit, or on lemmy whining about reddit.

Literally made that name the day I wandered away from Reddit, the day they killed 3rd party apps. And I didn't go back! Youre like gamers who whine but just keep preordering, youre ruining it for the rest of us.

brainandforce ,

Why do you feel the need to call this person a traitor? Jeez.

RedditWanderer , (edited )

I lost a big part of my habits and communities when Reddit killed 3rd party apps, but I actually left that day. If the mods left their little powertrip aside and actually quit reddit/protested properly, it probably wouldn't have IPO'd. They were just scared to lose their sub and position. It's also what allowed reddit to manage replacing the few problematic mods and keep things going.

Anybody who kept going (especially for all these months) deserve to stay on reddit and not benefit from the work Lemmings (not me) have been doing. My experience on lemmy is far inferior to reddit, but I'm doing my part and not going back.

mp3 , avatar

I did the same thing last July, left to switch full-time to Lemmy (I registered my first Lemmy account @mp3 a long time ago EDIT: jeez 5 years ago already?!) and somewhat abandoned my account.

I was then approached by the admins, asking if I would be interested to help administer the website, which I gladly accepted. I do not regret one minute giving my time to the fediverse.

I went back to Reddit last month to remove my account from being a moderator on all the communities I was part of. I didn't even tell anyone, I just left. Reddit is way past its prime.

terry_tibbs ,

It's heavy to give up on something after 8 years but power to you for sticking to your guns, your energy will be far better spent elsewhere.

Kribensis ,

I’d been on Reddit for 13 years and finally managed to detox by doing two things only.

  • Uninstalling the app from my phone (along with LinkedIn, which I have to use, but despise). Since the browser experience is terrible, that was half the problem.
  • Strategically muting subreddits that annoyed me.

Wall of text about why (but I’ll use paragraphs):

In recent years, I started noticing that everything discussion-oriented was either a Dunning-Kruger driven echo chamber or a total circlejerk for the default progressive opinion on that subject. And, anything content-oriented was reposts.

Quick caveat: I’m not saying that every progressive position is bad, only that I enjoy forming my own positions without getting yelled at. Also, I don’t know OP’s sub and I’m sure it was well-moderated. I’d imagine quitting as a mod would be emotionally harder.

Anyway, for a few weeks, whenever some low-info/naive/didactic opinion or recycled content popped up, I muted that sub.

The last to go was my professional sub, since I’m in a small field. But once I realized all I’d done there in 13 years was help people starting out, but never once received help myself (since there are virtually no posters with experience), I was good to go. I can mentor elsewhere and probably help way more.

Once I muted stuff, I had a few content subs left like r/urbanhell or r/catio, or other fun stuff I want to keep. But my feed is suddenly super quiet, so I just open it once a week, like a magazine.

It’s not quite quitting, but that’s for when Huffman (or whoever replaces him) realizes that to move the revenue needle, they need to block adblockers like YouTube, or go fucking nuts with sponsored posts, or sell personal data, or build their own LLM on everyone’s posts, or whatever they’re gonna do.

And it probably won’t be Huffman anyway, since he just dumped half a million shares at $50+ and can therefore buy an island, so he is absolutely out of there 😂

Meanwhile, if I’m Reddit’s Unix admin or whatever and have waited for years to vest my equity, I can’t even sell for another 5.5 months. It ain’t gonna be $50+ then. Brutal.

And that’s how it goes. Never again. I don’t miss it, since sending Lemmy memes to my Signal chats replaces most of the hijinks and sex/the outdoors replaces the dopamine.

Revan343 ,

Oh you meant subreddit, not community. Yeah fuck that shit hole, not worth your time

CaptDust ,

Glad to hear you stepped away, it is not worth letting them exploit your labor for their personal profits. Reddit changed a lot since 2016 and not for the better. They should be forced to cut checks for community leaders or hire an internal mod team at this point, but too many rubes are willing to mod for free. Of course reddit is more then happy to let them warm the seats and increase their value.

dumples , avatar

Bring it here. We need good moderators. Welcome back to the original corporate free Internet. It's great

venusaur , avatar

Congratulations! You’re doing the right thing. Reddit is trash now.

mysoulishome , avatar

I’m sorry. The corporate assholes don’t deserve to pad their fat wallets based on your free labor, but it’s still absolutely the loss of something you love when you step away and it hurts. I’m still grieving losing Apollo and all of the goofy, weird ass little subs and brilliant human beings who made me laugh and cry every day on Reddit. It’s not been replaced in my life. It took millions of us almost 20 years to make that stupid website something incredible…I can’t deny that it was incredible at points.

It’s gone, it’s just a website now and an app with ads every 3rd pixel just like the rest. There is still some good content and good people, just as there are on TikTok, Bookface, X and insta. The decent shit that is there, on all of the platforms, is overwhelmed by their horrible algorithm trying to sell you shit and increase engagement to monetize your every click.

EdibleFriend , avatar

How was place a bitch for mods? I honestly never heard anybody talking about it and im genuinely curious

thawed_caveman OP ,

I felt a duty to not only place pixels but also coordinate efforts. Picking the design, updating the design, spreading information so the people placing pixels know what's going on, advertising, talking to other communities...

I don't remember them very well but i'm pretty sure i've had 4 hour nights for the entire duration. For place 2023 i spent most of my waking time in Discord calls.

And all this for a game that can be emotionally devastating. Getting overrun by a streamer feels shockingly similar to having big kids trample your sand castle, it's this little thing that you built together getting destroyed by stronger people and they're mocking you relentlessly.

EdibleFriend , avatar

Gah. Ok yeah that sounds like ass.

Splatterphace ,

Why do people like r/place, and why do others hate it? I never understood the phenomena.

janNatan ,

It's like an MMO for pixel art. The best part of MMOs is all the other players. The worst part of MMOs is... all the other players.

iAmTheTot , avatar

So accurate.

Gullible ,

The first time /r/place was offered was markedly different from the others. The first was a free-for-all hellfest for a long while where organization wasn’t even secondary or tertiary to the experience. Then came the age of “reason” and brands and flags sprouted up, obliterating any semblance of originality with an uninteresting mob of paint rollers. The second go around, there was nothing new, everything was pre-planned and strategically plotted, and genitals were a big no-no. To answer your question, novelty and the spontaneous lack thereof. Freedom and the spontaneous lack thereof.

ech ,

Then came the age of “reason” and brands and flags sprouted up

Ugh. The domination of the space by advertisements and just plain nationalism is so lame and nauseating. I don't know if it's mainly bots or just peoples' general lack of creativity, but it sucks.

Rhaedas ,

The first r/place was one of those unique events in history. The later ones didn't work because people now knew what it was, techniques to use, and of course bots. I think the most enjoyable was how it not only sparked comradery within various subreddits to support their design and keep it alive, it also brought together some "opponents" to do the same (thinking my experience with the Star Citizen/Elite Dangerous agreement to help each other).

thawed_caveman OP ,

Also streamers were a lot more influential on place 22 and 23 than they were in 17. Streamers are external to the website, don't particularly have a dog in the race other than themselves, are encouraged to create spectacle, and the kind of personality that makes you a big streamer is not conducive to being a good neighbor in a competitive pixel art game. So while i hesitate to say that there was anything about Reddit in particular that made Place 2017 a good event, i do think the presence of streamers made 22 and 23 much worse.

wintermute_oregon ,

I’m a capitalist and I would never do free work for a public company.
Now I don’t mind a hobby but a public company isn’t a hobby.

roguetrick ,

It's possible to craft a public company that has bylaws strict enough to make it like a good nonprofit, but why would you do that and still pay taxes?

confluence ,

That must've been tough to do. You have the respect of at least one internet stranger 🫡

RedditWanderer ,

Lemmings did the tough thing months (years?) ago when thousands of third party apps and community development went to waste.

He took the easy way out and helped spez IPO.

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