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Max_P , in Reddit full of political bias
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That's the eternal cycle of social media. It starts nice and then it get flooded by MAGA extremists until it becomes a cesspool of hate and disinformation.

See: Facebook, Reddit, Twitter, TikTok is well on that path as well.

eveninghere OP ,

That meme I'm talking about is actually from Biden supporters.

viking , in Reddit full of political bias
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Lemmy is just as political as reddit, just on the opposite spectrum. But yeah at least the memes stay in the meme communities, which I've all blocked. So that is nice, at the very least.

eveninghere OP ,

Honestly, though, I wonder why memes don't flood out to news magazines.

viking ,
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No idea, but I sure ain't sad about it.

jlow ,
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Might be admins doing their jobs and deleting posts when the don't fit the rules?

eveninghere OP ,

Maybe, hard to see the stats as an end user but I agree with you.

supangle , in Reddit Insiders Selling Days After IPO; Shares Fall

i hope shares plunge to the ground so that people feel or have to switch to something new but kinda similar, like lemmy

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bquintb , in Old reddit has removed the login fields
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It is possible to use Reddit without having to log in and deal with the shit mods and community. Apps like RedReader (similar to old school RiF) allow you to bookmark subreddits locally if you need to access the site as a source or whatever. I haven't logged in to participate for months and I havent missed it at all.

frightful_hobgoblin , in Old reddit has removed the login fields

It's back

Chainweasel , in Old reddit has removed the login fields

Removing old.reddit will push more people away than locking down the API did.

WhatAmLemmy ,

It's also working fine

possiblylinux127 ,
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They just need to slowly cripple it and make it run slow so people with willingly switch

supangle ,

sshh … just be quiet about it

frightful_hobgoblin , in Old reddit has removed the login fields

Did this just happen within the past hour or two?

n2burns ,

I experienced this yesterday, maybe 12 hours ago? So not just in the last few hours.

Cheradenine ,

One of the other sub's here had something about it earlier, I can't find it of course.

Some people seemed to be redirected, others reported no problems.

Some users were also reporting that a Gmail address was now required for new signups, others said no.

Seems like probably an A/B test.

I no longer have an account there, I still use Stealth (Android) for search redirects and have no issues, others say Stealth doesn't work at all.

SpaceNoodle ,

Odd that Gmail specifically would be required.

NOT_RICK ,
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They did make a $60 million deal recently with Google, so maybe it’s related to that?

southsamurai ,
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Stealth works, but you have to do a fresh install for some reason.

TheFriar , in Old reddit has removed the login fields

Leave Reddit. Why is anyone still there.

otter ,
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Professional communities, local communities, niche hobby communities, each of which don't have critical mass here (yet)

I'm doing my best to grow stuff here, but I recognize that there's still stuff there that people find helpful for other parts of their life.

dragnet ,

Reddit is terrible as a website. But it still has the communities that developed there over years, and they are an invaluable resource. They are definitely positioning themselves to pull a Digg, but until the Reddit-killer comes along with a mass exodus (and it doesn't look like it's gonna be Lemmy unfortunately) access to those communities will entail dealing with reddit.

NOT_RICK ,
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I still look at Reddit from time to time, but I don’t see a need to sign in at all. There’s no use contributing anymore

z3rOR0ne ,
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Don't bother even giving them your traffic, just use a redirection extension to LibReddit or use Stealth

frightful_hobgoblin ,

what does "pull a Digg" mean?

Chainweasel , (edited )

Digg (a link aggregator very much like Reddit) started pulling similar shit and everyone left for the alternative, which was Reddit at the time.
After everybody left Digg, Reddit became the default and after about 15 years they are doing the same things that drove people away from Digg

TheImpressiveX ,
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To rapidly lose your userbase to another platform, due to controversial changes to the website.

Named after Digg, which lost most of its userbase to Reddit and is now a shell of its former self.

SirSamuel ,

r/locksmith

r/lockshop

r/[local area]

r/sw5e

These communities either don't exist or don't have critical mass here.

And if you recommend Discord as an alternative, it's not the same

Also: Search results that take me to Reddit threads with actual answers

Chainweasel ,

And if you recommend Discord as an alternative, it's not the same.

I keep seeing people recommend discord as an alternative but it's just chat rooms, If it's an alternative for anything it's ICQ.

SirSamuel ,

Right!? gO To oUr DiScOrD. Like bitch please, I've got ADHD, i will never find what i need in a discord chat

fsxylo ,

Decades of solved programming issues.

I don't post there anymore, though.

possiblylinux127 ,
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r/sysadmin

Also the people there are not nearly as crazy or extreme

DaseinPickle , in AI Is Poisoning Reddit to Promote Products and Game Google With 'Parasite SEO'

How do we keep the bots out of Lemmy? Eventually all the AI rot will spread to the fediverse.

Max_P ,
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Defederate/ban them, defederate instances that don't adequately stop them from their instances.

DaseinPickle ,

That might work for now, but AI bots can easily create more content faster than human moderators can go through. We will need mechanisms to prove humanness.

henfredemars ,

Another strategy might be to demand a minimum content quality. Whether trash comes from humans or bots, it’s still trash.

agressivelyPassive ,

Realistically, you don't. You can't really.

The only way would be to verify each account somehow.

DaseinPickle ,

Yea, it will be a hard problem to solve. There’s no good solutions right now. Hopefully someone with the creativity and skill will come up with something.

50MYT ,

It becomes a pain vs gain problem. How hard do you make it, also balancing the inconvenience.

You could easily force users to enter a one time code via email every 3 months (or more or less time). This would be hard to automate and if you changed it up even more so.

DaseinPickle ,

Or maybe enforce login with a hardware token like Yubikey or Nitrokey. I don’t think you could automate that(?)

50MYT ,

Yeah but how do you get it to someone.

Pain vs gain.

henfredemars ,

Are AI bots really the true problem, or is the problem product promotion? Humans can do that too.

DaseinPickle ,

Yea, but AI bots do it at an unprecedented scale. The price of generating bullshit is practically 0. There is already cheap AI content every where and people are already getting tired of it. It’s true that human actors has done something similar for a long time, but now AI will make the process so easy that AI junk will be everywhere. Look at Google search results, it’s already filled with blogspam generated by AI. Blogspam was a problem before, but now it’s insufferable. Cheap midjourney “art” is showing up in search results even when you search for real classic artist, you get these ugly AI copies. Generative AI is the ultimate bullshit and spam machine.

possiblylinux127 ,
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We are a community. The community will find a way as we can do anything. We have faith of the heart and everything.

DaseinPickle ,

That sounds more like a prayer than a plan.

Deebster , in AI Is Poisoning Reddit to Promote Products and Game Google With 'Parasite SEO'
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I'm not a regular there any more, but I feel like there's more "natural" spam posts nowadays. They're not natural enough that they haven't prompted me to check the account's post history (all mention product x, of course).

Edit: e.g. this one

If this is an example of the AI, it's not very good.

eveninghere ,

LLMs don't generate that sort of templated response for conversation (although they do for software code).

It's more likely a traditional ad, using some classical algorithms perhaps.

franklin , in AI Is Poisoning Reddit to Promote Products and Game Google With 'Parasite SEO'
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Not surprising they've been social marketing with corporate accounts and purchased accounts for years because the know it's effective.

This is just the natural evolution of that.

sentient_loom ,
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Yeah this is one instance where I don't care that the human bots are being replaced with AI bots. I mean, it's even worse than before, but those "workers" don't have my support here.

fantasty ,

Astroturfers losing their jobs to AI. I imagine some poor guy coming home after a long day of warmongering and promoting nuclear energy, hanging up his coat: „honey, I’m home“. And the wife has prepared a beautiful dinner, it could be a wonderful day. „How was work today?“, the wife asks. And the guy has to tell her how he lost his job to the evil twin brother of ChatGPT because corporate has done the math and they realized that a bot can replace possibly hundreds of humans. It’s a tragedy really, how is the guy going to pay for his mortgage? How’s he gonna feed his family? I think astroturfers should unionize to combat this kind of automation. It creates harm to society.

sentient_loom ,
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There's a Kurt Vonnegut story in there somewhere. Or maybe someone more cynical.

fantasty ,

I‘m from Germany so had no idea about Kurt Vonnegut, just read through his biography and work and I think that’s the kind of story I had in mind. Definitely gonna read some of his work, seems highly relevant still nowadays.

ryathal , in Asked /r/news mods something, probably shouldn't have bothered

Banning politics is a political stance. It means that the only allowed politics are the status quo. It also means in message boards that the mod's political beliefs are what is allowed.

Asking why is a waste of time in an online space with such rules.

ModernRisk , in Asked /r/news mods something, probably shouldn't have bothered
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Honestly, just avoid Reddit like the plague. If you really still want to see stuff from there, use an RSS feed (only for the subreddits you want to see).

To be blunt Reddit is full of garbage, especially since the take downs of 3rd-party-apps and the IPO.

Most of the things you’ll see on there are:

  • Drama
  • Uneducated opinions
  • Circlejerk (for karma farming)
  • Bots
  • People ragebaiting each other
  • Mods using their power to be some kind of dictator
buycurious , in Asked /r/news mods something, probably shouldn't have bothered

You know, even though I think you approached in good faith, the moderator team over there has probably changed a lot, especially with Reddit now being public.

It wouldn’t surprise me if certain stories are suppressed because of how much attention/views Reddit as a whole can draw (and potentially influence).

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