fibojoly , (edited )

That has to be because in Chinese there is a single word for it, like for so many other relative nouns.

... I think I found it : 老表 (laobiao)
Defined as "male cousin (on the maternal side or on the paternal aunt's side)"

baseless_discourse , (edited )

I think this is just 表弟 (younger male cousin). 老表 is too casual to be used as a tag in phone book.

B0rax ,

I still don’t understand why these are not linked to the other contacts. Why can’t I jump to the brother of a contact by tapping the name?

otter ,
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Why is there an "or" in there, how does that help?

skullgiver ,
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Same reason there would be an "or" in "BrotherOrSistersOrBrotherInLawsOrSisterI LawsDaughter" when describing "niece" in the same way.

English happens to have short words for certain cultural relationships that other languages don't, and other languages have their own culturally relevant familial descriptions.

From what I recall, this is a translation of a Mandarin word.

otter ,
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Yea the part I found weird was that it went "mother's sibling" but also "father's sister", rather than "X's sibling" or "X's sister"

buh ,
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Tim Apple is from Alabama after all

Deebster , (edited )
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CNLabelContactRelationYoungerCousinMothersSiblingsSonOrFathersSistersSon

The label for the contact’s mother’s sibling’s younger son or father’s sister’s younger son.

I thought it was just a male cousin, but it doesn't include a cousin who's your uncle's son. Which culture needs this?

Kache ,

It refers to a male cousin that is NOT in the same paternal line, so maybe not too uncommon?

skullgiver ,
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This has come up in the past. I believe Mandarin has a short and quick word for this. English doesn't have the same cultural background so there's no quick name for it.

Compare this to writing out "MothersOrFathersBrotherOrSistersDaughterOrSon" instead of "cousin". In fact, my own language doesn't even have a word for "sibling", all we have is "brother or sister", despite being surrounded by languages that do have such a word.

Avalokitesha ,

I think Chinese and Korean culture share this concept, and I wouldn't be surprised if there were more Asian languages who did. Since a daughter joins her husband's family upon marriage, their children are considered belonging to the other family. I recently learner that apparently there's a saying in Korean that daughters always leave things at their mother's house when they get married so they have a reason to come back despite having left the family.

fibojoly ,

China, at least.
Lots of distinction between mother side and father side.
Grandma can be 老老 laolao (mother's mother) or 奶奶 nainai (father's mother), for example.

baseless_discourse ,

*姥姥

fibojoly ,

Thanks for correcting. Pleco confirmed the one I wrote, but this is the one I learnt and actually wanted to write!

Ghostalmedia ,
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https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/c0d5d714-b437-438e-b618-7bb2ac55541d.gif

guycls ,

The constant is

CNLabelContactRelationYoungerCousinMothersSiblingsSonOrFathersSistersSon

to save a click.

VeganicTankie ,

Makes sense in languages with family-heavy cultures

DoctorNope ,

What about the label for my father’s brother’s nephew’s cousin’s former roommate?

DmMacniel ,

Which would surmount to absolutely nothing?

TORFdot0 ,

Depends on if your Schwartz is as big as mine. And how you use it

superfes ,

Makes me think of the GTK...

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