EnderMB ,

Funny enough, I probably did more software engineering as a web dev than I did as a software engineer at some companies.

In the UK, at least, the only difference typically between a web developer and a software engineer is £15-20k in salary. Frankly, we're all software engineers...

AlecSadler ,

What are dev/engineer salaries like in the UK? Been considering places to move to...

porous_grey_matter ,

About half of the equivalent in the US, often less. It's exceedingly rare to make 100k here even in a senior position, although it does exist. Median is 40-50k (pounds, so times that by 1.2 for USD).

AlecSadler ,

Holy crap. That'd be a pretty substantial cut for me, but I guess that said, is the COL a lot less?

redcalcium ,

This is a new satire site, right? These days it's getting harder and harder to differentiate between reality and fiction in tech. The rest of their posts are pretty much spot on.

Poutinetown ,

Reality in Canada.

hansl ,

It’s a good thing that Engineer is a protected profession and not everyone can claim it, like Lawyer or Doctor.

In the US now it’s “oh you’re an engineer? Do you have any idea how little that narrows it down?”

macaroni1556 ,

I disagree, I believe the regulatory agencies do nothing in Canada to legitimize their claim to regulating software development. Heck, they do nothing for electronics or semiconductors or anything smaller than the power grid.

hansl ,

Software development is done by developers. If you are a software engineer chances are you’re working on software infrastructure that actually apply at scales that are not “add a shopping cart to this blog”.

There are reasons you ask a civil engineer for work.

macaroni1556 ,

You missed my point that if professional engineering societies in Canada want to take ownership of software and electronics, they better do something and not just say they're regulating it and sit on it with no clear definition for what it even is.

If they were doing their job, we wouldn't need to debate what a software engineer is. They've let us down and they're getting away with it.

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