Kit , (edited )

I've run into this a few times. If the culture and benefits are good but we can't level on pay, I let them know that I can't accept the offer but I refer them to a colleague with less experience for whom the pay would be appropriate. After over a decade in leadership I've had many employees, and I'm always looking out for ways they can step up the ladder. We've gotta have each other's back in this job market.

These jobs are all pushing 6 figures tho. Not sure what kind of job would try to push 36k on a professional position.

NightShot , (edited )

I stayed at a shitty job for 5 years because jobs here where you can bring your dog is non-existing. Hes gone now and every shit day was so worth it to be with him.

isVeryLoud ,
@isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca avatar

I bring my dog to work every day by working from home!

Smart ass answer, I know

NightShot , (edited )

Never had that chance before, until a couple of years ago. Hug him/her from me <3

umbrella ,
@umbrella@lemmy.ml avatar

everything except pay me a decent wage and let me have free time.

ZMoney ,

How about you only have to work 28.8 hours a week?

InternetCitizen2 ,

Get to that point and goof off for the rest of it.

explodicle ,

Smart move. I recently upgraded from 14.4 to 33.6 and regret it.

SturgiesYrFase ,
@SturgiesYrFase@lemmy.ml avatar

Honestly sounds like a downgrade...

Got_Bent ,

People bring their dogs to work all the time in my office. Fortunately, all of us are dog lovers, so we all enjoy it.

The other trend that doesn't bother me, but surprises me is that I'd estimate about two thirds of the people in my office vape at their desks.

We also have bean to cup espresso, which is nice. People will go find high end beans and contribute them. It works out nicely.

We're highly educated professionals, damnit!

synapse1278 ,
@synapse1278@lemmy.world avatar

Vaping indoors, at the desk ?! I would hate to work there.

TachyonTele ,

Yum, plastic clouds

Got_Bent ,

It's not me and I have an office. It doesn't get to me.

But I can definitely see that it would bother a whole lot of people.

On that, I'm old enough to have begun my working life when people smoked cigarettes at their desks. This is a much, much better alternative.

Deepus ,

Damn the smoking at the desk must have been awful. Dont get me wrong, im a smoker and do enjoy a indoor cig every so often but sitting around it all the time cant be nice.

Crikeste ,

I smoke too, and I would HATE to bask in my own. Or someone else’s. Just an icky feeling and experience.

Got_Bent ,

I know it's wrong and that I'm going to Internet hell for admitting to it, but there's a smell when Grandma would light her cigarette in the hot box car with the windows up that I find nostalgic to this day even though I find the concept of smoking in a car repugnant

Crikeste ,

Nah, plenty of people have that olfactory nostalgia. It’s a pretty normal thing.

Also, my dad has NEVER smoked but he says he likes the way my cigarettes smell lol

Got_Bent ,

The crazy thing is that it was so prevalent, I don't really remember the world smelling smoky unless I went into a small room like my grandparents living room.

I didn't notice it in places like restaurants and bars until after the bans came.

I would guess that my generation has a diminished sense of smell because of it.

FiskFisk33 ,

Not necessarily a generally diminished sense of smell. We stop sensing smells when we get very used to them.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olfactory_fatigue

Doxatek ,

Yeah fuck the vaping thing but everything else is cool lol

storcholus ,

Yeah, I'm allergic to dogs and I hate that trend

PrettyFlyForAFatGuy ,

Bean to cup coffee machines legitimately was part of the reason i took a job at my current company.

Then during covid they downsized offices and got rid of them all.

Now all we get is instant coffee.....

scumbags......

0x0 ,

Wouldn't you think that the coffee pays for itself when you factor in productivity?

PrettyFlyForAFatGuy , (edited )

well i have my own coffee machine at home and i only go into the office like once or twice a year so i'm not THAT upset about it. i just dont get why they wouldn't just move them from the old to the new office

Kolanaki ,
@Kolanaki@yiffit.net avatar

Foosball

Mama says foosball is the devil!

Appoxo , (edited )
@Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

It's either Football or the local equivalent to "Foot" and "Ball".

The sport with the egg is "American Football". And you US citizens can call our football "European Football" and not *Soccer".

Zangoose , (edited )

Wasn't the name "soccer" originally from England?

Edit: it was, and it was used for ~100 years in England until around 1960 - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Names_for_association_football

Appoxo ,
@Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Well England sucks :p /s

Zangoose ,

See now we've got a valid argument going

smeg ,

Yeah but only poshos call it "soccer" here to distinguish it from "rugger"

chocosoldier ,

who the hell calls rugby "rugger"? that's even worse than "soccer".

smeg ,

Public schoolboys (i.e. the very posh), yes it's weird

Kolanaki ,
@Kolanaki@yiffit.net avatar

Foosball is just an Americanized spelling of "Fußbal" which is German for Football.

TurtleTourParty ,

Foosball specifically refers to the tabletop game in America.

chocosoldier , (edited )
  1. This is foosball. This is foosball.

  2. The sport with the egg is "gridiron football", we call it "football" for short for the same reason other countries call association football "football" for short, it's the most popular variant here.

  3. We don't call it "American football" because that's not what it's called, you lot say that because of point 2. Nobody is going to say "European football" because that's not what it's called either.

  4. The word "soccer" was imported from the UK (seriously that word is british as hell, you really think we came up with that shit?), and we use it for reasons outlined in points 2 and 3, and also because "european football" is inaccurate, tiresome, and stupid sounding.

5. This is the first and only time I've ever heard of rugby union football being referred to as "ruggers", I never thought I'd read a dumber-sounding word than soccer but you're just full of surprises today. For some reason i was imagining one of the replies was the same person, this was in error.

MindTraveller ,

It's not as dangerous as stick hockey

pewgar_seemsimandroid ,

ice hockey > stick hockey

TachyonTele , (edited )

Air hockey > sex with office dogs

FlihpFlorp ,

Tbf that right thing is a VERY low bar

Stepping on a Lego brick is more enjoyable

JasonDJ ,

Depends. Chihuahua or mini-pin, yeah, I agree. But a golden-doodle? That's a tough call.

TachyonTele ,

Diddle a doodle a day, keeps the...

Hold on, someone's at my door. Brb

TachyonTele ,

How do you know? You're disgusting!

FlihpFlorp ,

Unless i forgot how words work (I am very good at forgetting) I meant litteraly anything is better than doing it with a dog

TachyonTele , (edited )

I don't know. You seem to know a lot about where having dog sex fits on a scale of enjoyment... Hmmm

FlihpFlorp ,

Well I love my dog but not like that

Nasty

TachyonTele ,

I'm just kidding with ya. Oh well

FlihpFlorp , (edited )

I am too dumb to people

Just one of those days

TachyonTele ,

It was a weak (and weird) attempt on my part. You're absolutely fine.

FlihpFlorp ,

My good sir/madam I wish you a good day and may your interactions be better than mine

TachyonTele ,

Thank you my friend. Enjoy your weekend!

lugal ,

When employers can't afford pizza parties, they come up with stuff like "dogs at work"

ipkpjersi ,

Until you step on the owners dog.

Emmie ,

Then you will be stepped on by the owner probably

lugal ,

This is a metaphor, right? Right?

Emmie , (edited )

U just have to profusely apologize to the dog on your knees and we can both move about our day happily. It’s not that hard

olutukko , (edited )

I mean I would fucking love somme puppies at work. but also pizza. pizza is good.

my old workplace used to have free breakfast which was the shit. freshly baked bread from local bakery and all sorts of toppings too, it was so nice to go to work, do stuff maybe 30minutes and just go to coffee break and eat some super good bread. and that was every day

DudeDudenson ,

How much weight did you put on

olutukko ,

I wish at least a little :D I'm pretty underweight because my body just rejects fat and I'm too lazy to do any body building to gain mass by getting muscle xd

LordCrom ,

We had that, but people knew what the delivery driver looked like or maybe reception had a secret list of buddies to notify ...whatever. When breakfast was delivered, within 10 seconds, all the vultures in the office pounced in it, leaving nothing.

Anytime pizza was given on Fridays, same vultures would rush to be 1st in line then walk out with a plate stacked with a whole pizza.... Rest of us usually got nothing.

olutukko ,

damn thst sounds shitty. at our place literally no one took moteöäre than couple breads so there was enough for everyone

DragonTypeWyvern ,

That's something to bring up to management, you know. Those coworkers were being deliberately shitty.

XEAL ,

I'm amazed when companies can't simply afford 100% remote work. IT'S FREE!

Empricorn ,

It's not always about the money. You've never had a control-freak supervisor?

PrettyFlyForAFatGuy , (edited )

i work for a big multinational and there was this woman who walks around with a little yappy thing. she's the only one and i haven't seen any rules about it in the employee handbook. i think she just turned up with it one day.

dejected_warp_core , (edited )

I've seen this kind of thing too many times to count. First it was in high school, then the workplace.

  1. Person notices there is no explicit rule for a thing, or maybe there's a loophole somewhere
  2. Does the thing
  3. Annoys someone
  4. Now there's a rule for the thing


Some people just want to push the envelope. Other times, people can have a poor grasp of social norms, or they simply don't respect others. But on the other side of the coin, people get annoyed for good and bad reasons; sometimes, no reason at all.

Bottom line: it's a mess, so we get rules. But nobody wants to spend time writing these things and enforcing them, so there's usually a reason/person/event why they're there.

NotMyOldRedditName ,

Those times you see an oddly specific and very weird rule and you just know there's probably a great story around it.

dejected_warp_core ,

The worst ones are safety rules: those are (sometimes) written in blood, with stories to match.

synapse1278 ,
@synapse1278@lemmy.world avatar

It's dogs in the workplace a problem for people with allergies?

TachyonTele , (edited )

If they're allergic to dogs, yes. Like wat

DragonTypeWyvern , (edited )

Or are afraid of dogs. Like a lot of people, partially on account of dog attacks being relatively common.

I love dogs, but I don't trust my coworkers to control their animals.

ellabee ,

yep. I self-select out of dog friendly offices. if that's a "benefit", I can't work there.

Aganim , (edited )

Yes, they can indeed be a problem for people with allergies. In my case dogs (and cats unfortunately) trigger respiratory issues. I had that issue at a workplace where dogs were allowed, not fun times. And unfortunately medication like antihistamines are not an option for everybody, personally I get extremely drowsy from them, even from the latest generation meds.

Zorsith ,
@Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

I'm allergic to dogs and don't drink, bad recruiter, shoo! Shoo! spray bottle noises

AnUnusualRelic ,
@AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world avatar

So you're saying there are no cats? That could be a problem.

Zorsith ,
@Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

At least 6 is the standard now for IT in general.

ShaggySnacks ,

I'm glad my workplace has a cat. Although, the cat does cat like things at the most inopportune moments.

Waraugh ,

Mine has a cat and a dog

BassaForte ,
@BassaForte@lemmy.world avatar

The only happy hours are the hours you don't work by going home early. About 2 hours per work day, to be exact.

GluWu ,

I wish I hadn't needed to learn these lessons about start ups by working in start ups. I just want to be a mailman or something at this point.

0110010001100010 ,
@0110010001100010@lemmy.world avatar

I worked at a tree farm in my teens and honestly if I could still do that making what I make now I would be all over that. Always outside, in great shape, got to run heavy machinery, it was great.

CodingCarpenter ,

That's crazy to me because I had the exact opposite experience. I went in hoping for a certain amount, and they offered me knowing full well what I was hoping for, 20,000 more. Plus all the other benefits like video games and dogs at work. In fact I don't think I've ever had a bad experience with startups except that your job is essentially temporary cuz they will either close or sell

Stovetop ,

If they offered you 20,000 more than what you expected, might be you are underselling your actual worth and could have negotiated for more.

TropicalDingdong ,

That or dumb money is just dumb, and if the cost of money is free, you can just guess at things that might work with thousands of monkeys hitting typewriters.

ICastFist ,
@ICastFist@programming.dev avatar

Or they knew they weren't going to last more than 1 year, so why not spend all that tasty VC money?

Graphy , (edited )

Hah I was about to say that only bad part of startups that I’ve had was that you weren’t sure if you’d have a job six months from now. I probably just got lucky and jumped on board during the “throw cash at everything phase”

Alexstarfire ,
your_mom , (edited )

I misread the last one as “Drugs as work, happy hours”.

Karyoplasma , (edited )

My last job offered free beer after 4pm on fridays.

It was smart as fuck if you think about it. For the small price of a few crates of beer, you got 20+ people talking in their free time, and on the weekend, without additional pay. It was officially off-work but since most of your coworkers were there, there was a lot of work-related exchange going on.

Aux ,

That's pretty much every office in London before the pandemic. Some even had taps with draught ales.

Semi_Hemi_Demigod ,
@Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world avatar

No that's WFH jobs

Maiznieks ,

Hey, we're a family now, Your best friends for a perfect work - work balance!

FuglyDuck ,
@FuglyDuck@lemmy.world avatar

“Treat your friends like family- exploit them.”
-Rules of acquisition as relayed by Quark

pkill ,

mobbing-free Fridays!

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