See Biden's fiery speech after shaky debate performance ( www.youtube.com )

There is always an incredible amount of fear-mongering and general negativity in the US media. This is especially so for politics.

Here is my unsolicited advice:

  1. Ignore the media including polls.
  2. If you are capable, then please do some canvasing.
  3. Vote and encourage those around you to vote.
TehPers ,

The debate covered important questions of national significance, including whether Trump had intercourse with a porn star, who was better at golf, each of their physical health conditions (including Trump's height and weight and apparently cognitive ability), and even featured a modern use of the word "malarchy". They might as well make a short, catchy intro for it, break it up into episodes, and advertise it as a sitcom.

The debate was completely useless. The only thing I got from it was that Biden's brain still works but his body doesn't, and Trump's body still works but his brain doesn't. There were some slight mentions of hot topics and each of their positions on the subject, but there was so much jumping around and avoiding questions that it was not very helpful.

Honestly, I think one of the things Biden said should just be applied to both candidates when determining who to vote for: "Just take a look at what he says he is, and take a look at what he is." (I believe this was used in context of Trump's weight... lol) Both of them have served 4 years in office, and both have done stuff outside of the oval office. It's easy to see how each of them would spend their terms based on what they already have done.

Auzy ,

Actually, I disagree. Trump actually did make one point exceptionally well and did an excellent job emphasizing it.

That he is going to blame immigrants for everything and he is racist

Id go as far as calling it a wolf whistle to people he knows are violent and will help him during election time

It's clear that he's slowly trying to set up another civil war

sqgl ,

there was so much jumping around and avoiding questions that it was not very helpful.

Trump did this, but where did Biden do it?

TehPers ,

I felt like neither side really answered the question about how they planned to address addictions in the US. They both talked about the US-Mexico border and trying to catch more imported drugs, but failed to address domestic production, and more importantly, failed to answer how they plan to address addiction in the US (as in current and future addicts).

Also, the whole question about physical ability diverted so off topic that I lost what they were even talking about. Biden seemed to try to answer it, but then it took a sharp turn towards weight and golfing skills?

Edit: I should also add that yes, Biden tended to stay on topic more. Trump always seemed to be answering a different/previous question instead.

Thevenin ,

You know, it's always bothered me that we put so much stock in debates.

The ability to verbally humiliate your opponents is not a good indicator of the ability to recognize good policy.

eveninghere ,

I think this is a universal fediversal problem. We are rather informed, but the problem is the rest of the world.

FreudianCafe ,

Im out of the loop here. Isnt beehaw a leftist community? Why are you supporting genocide joe?

Doom ,

As opposed to actual Genocider Putin and Bibi who prefer Trump openly?

You people cannot be this stupid

FreudianCafe , (edited )

Oh i get it. Its the imperialist leftists. Thanks for clearing things up

Edit: i get that you are imperialist identitarians, no need to keep reinforcing the point

Pandantic ,
@Pandantic@midwest.social avatar

Beehaw is more lib left. Try hexbear.net

FreudianCafe ,

Happy C day

Pandantic , (edited )
@Pandantic@midwest.social avatar

Thanks, you were the only one to tell me! 07 fellow leftist.

And If you don’t mind, I’d like to take a moment to try to start a new tradition:

Each year on your Fediverse cake day, in response to the first person who wishes you happy cake day, you must tell the story of how you came to be here in the Fediverse.
Here is mine:

This is my first Cake Day as I started a year ago when I joined Lemmy.world and Kbin and Mastodon all at the same time. I left from Reddit after the AMA with u/spez. I knew at that point he wasn’t relenting on the third-party apps and the loss of access for me personally, but mostly for the deaf and blind community, showed me that the CEO had no intention of putting accessibility over profit. I was an Apollo user and I was looking for an alternative while also browsing Reddit - using them as a resource, as I always had - and I was seeing censorship abound. Reddit was blocking mentions of alternative sites, blocking discussion about Spez, and the subs were rising up. I used those last few months of Apollo to help with the protests (John Oliver in /pics) and watched the proletariat attack the bourgeoisie for the rights of the people.

Then I started going full fediverse, posting Pokémon Cards on Kbin in a lovely group with three people in which I hope to return to some day when life settles. But Lemmy had the quantity and quality I was looking for. I joined .world at first because I didn’t know what was best, but switched to Midwest.social when .world blocked Hexbear. Went from pc to phone when the apps came out. Went from Memmy to Thunder because Thunder supported Hexbears stickers! And here I am, one year later!

FreudianCafe ,

Thats great bro. As much as you moved towards a more fediverse aproach to social media, i wish you can continue on a journey to go even further left. You told me to go to hexbear, im already there and i think they are good, but i do think they have some lib ideas in the community. Im also on Grad, wich is feel is even leftier, but still have steps to walk towards a real proletarian ideology. Funny fact, my application for the Grad got rejected. See you around mate

storksforlegs ,
@storksforlegs@beehaw.org avatar

Any leftist who doesn't vote against a facist far-right candidate like Trump is pretty shit at being a leftist.

Doom ,

Oh no Biden the guy who I know what to expect from and will continue my experience for 30 years and not the one trying to get people to overthrow my government.

You're just mad you don't get a vote 💅

null ,
@null@slrpnk.net avatar

I'm surprised beehaw hasn't defederated from the tankie instance.

Thevenin ,

Biden and Trump are not equivalent.

To convince us that Democrats and Republicans are equivalent, you must first explain why LGBT+ equality, workers' rights, freedom of religion, the ability to vote, and the actual existence of science are all insignificant.

sxan ,
@sxan@midwest.social avatar

The top YouTube comment hit the nail on the head, though: the problem is that 49 million people didn't watch the Carolina rally.

averyminya ,

It was far less bad than people make it out to be. I was on a stream watching and so many comments were talking about how he looked, and I'm sitting here thinking... y'all realize he's listening to Trump speak right? Anyone actually listening to what that monster has to say is going to either look befuddled or dismayed. He looked both. He definitely had some weak spots, but compared to Trump who wouldn't even answer a question and blatantly lying every other second.

It sucks. People were basically cheering him on online, the most against him comments I saw were "they're both so old". Not commenting on the insanity or the racism or the lies, just memeing on old Biden. Which yeah he deserves it but the rhetoric is reminding me of 2016 and it does not inspire hope.

z500 ,
@z500@startrek.website avatar

I watched it and it scares me only because of how many people didn't notice or care that Biden was the only one saying anything of substance up there.

realitista ,

People who like Tump, by nature, must be easily hypnotized by word salad because there's no other justification for his existence as a political candidate. I've never heard a coherent chain of sentences come out of the man's mouth.

ursakhiin ,

Yeah. This was the face of an old man having trouble believing what he was hearing.

He looks like a walking corpse, but he seemed to understand what he was hearing and was just amazed by it.

Hello_there ,

I'd like to see another unscripted event - like an interview where he gets pushed

coffeetest , (edited )

Biden had a bad debate night. But putting it in context, he's had plenty of good or excellent speeches, its just that no one notices and media doesn't care when things go well. Got to get those clicks.

bobs_monkey ,

It seemed to me that Biden was just in a state of shock at how much bullshit was coming out of Trump's mouth

coffeetest ,

I think you are right on that. That was at least part of it. Biden's mistake was expecting it to be a debate and not whatever that event was.

bobs_monkey ,

That's probably why they chose to go without a live audience. I don't wanna get conspiratorial, but all this shit seems to coincidental to not be on purpose.

randy ,
@randy@social.coop avatar

@bobs_monkey @coffeetest as we're we all

sqgl ,

Really? You expected Trump to base his speech on facts?

sqgl ,

That should have been expected from Trump. Biden should have memorized statistics to counter the predictable bullshit.

Not that memorizing stuff is important for the job but it would have been effective in the debate for viewers who just won't fact check anything.

Gamerman153 ,

How bout we just leave the position open? Let's try that for four years.

Auzy ,

The only policy anyone will remember Trump has, is that he's racist.

He made sure everyone knew that and kept emphasizing it. And it was the only one that wasn't made up on the spot. He seemed to have lots of ways to blame foreigners for everything

And he wanted everyone to know he's better at golf. That I believe, considering he spent his 4 years in office playing it (the only thing he seemingly did was steal some paperwork and blame others).

Also, why didn't CNN bring up stuff like the fact Trump told people to shove a lightbulb up their ass to cure covid? Or follow up on the lies. They should have had a ticker at the bottom with a fact check

Neato ,
@Neato@ttrpg.network avatar

He's not better at golf. He cheats blatantly. People play with him just to claim trump cheated against them.

Auzy ,

Trump cheated in more ways than one. So it's hard to keep up

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