MisterFrog ,
@MisterFrog@lemmy.world avatar

I think this logic is silly.

Employers don't own you, so witholding wages for services you provided isn't stealing.
Getting a haircut and not paying isn't stealing.

I think the better justification is: rights holders make it a pain in the arse to access content affordably, so fuck you, just going to steal it.

mineapple ,

You're only partly right.
You example services. Of course it is not possible to own services.
Piracy is only applicable to products.
The point of the Twitter guy is, that companies intentionally stop selling their software etc. as products to sell you the same thing as a service, so that you cannot own it.

cyberpunk007 ,

Well paying for it is essentially leasing it, piracy is neither. So...

what ,

Until we live in a world where people have equal access to information and essential technology piracy is a moral imperative.

Should something which costs a few hours worth of work in the developed word cost three weeks worth of work in a less developed country, just to make a publishing company worth tens or hundreds of millions of dollars a few extra bucks? Of course not!

Every other argument is a moot point to me. If I hadn't pirated Photoshop and other software when I was a poor kid I wouldn't have the six figure career I have today. The ultrarich steal from us every day in more ways than I can count. Maybe when they start being held accountable I will start caring about their bottom line.

Allan8795 ,
@Allan8795@lemmy.world avatar

I'm amused at these statements these 'wannabe' pirates make to justify piracy. A smart person would pirate quietly without letting the world know or justifying it.

I know why I do it & I don't want some validation, internet points, 2 minutes of fame to sound / look cool.

DrownedAxolotl ,

So true! Here, have some internet points and validation!

reddit_refugee ,

You've just let the world know you're pirating though

lich_hegemon ,

Because for some piracy isn't simply about being a cheapskate but also about activism

TommySalami ,

Theres some truth to this, but a lot of people do use this as a shield against the general cultural acceptance that piracy is stealing or otherwise morally underhanded. I do it, but I don't have any illusion I'm one of the activists. I just get indignant and refuse to pay someone for content or entertainment who I think is damaging to the medium or predatory in general. I feel like if I really wanted to make a statement, I just wouldn't consume their work at all -- but life is short and I want to have my cake and eat it too.

Cabrio ,

It's possible to do both, I consume plenty of pirated media simply because it's unavailable due to pathetic capitalist imposed digital distribution limitations and lack of equitable paid access.

I also consume other pirated media because I wouldn't spend my resources for access because I don't yet know the value of the content and won't pay just for an opportunity to be disappointed, been there enough times to have learned that lesson. I'm happy to spend my time to find out your media sucks, but not my money, because that's also my time with the addition that I've put actual effort into converting it into fungible assets.

I also deliberately pirate media that I would pay for and do understand the value of, both because I can't always afford to purchase said product from a company making billions of dollars in exploitative corporate profits and because I have no interest in caring about that over my own personal satisfaction in life.

FactorSD ,

Wouldn't it achieve more to boycott things instead? If you won't even give up watching a tv show, you aren't an activist you are just complaining on the internet.

Compactor9679 ,

"A smart person would pirate quietly without letting the world know"
While posting "I do it & I don't want some validation..."

SgtThunderC_nt ,

As much fun as setting up a torrent box is, being an argumentative asshole is even better.

crunchpaste ,
@crunchpaste@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Do we really need excuses for pirating media?

I pirate movies because I think digital access to them is overpriced, goes to the copyright holder instead of the creators, it's convenient and most importantly because I can.

I can't pirate going to the cinema, nor can I afford to build my own, therefore I gladly pay to have a seat and enjoy a movie there.

Edit: I thought this may be relevant to the movies example I gave. I don't think movie studios, giving nothing back to society after massive profits are the ones we should debate the morals of stealing with.

Fapp ,

But all of those are excuses?

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