zaknenou ,
@zaknenou@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

I'm in this picture and I don't like it

onlinepersona ,

Anonymous torrents on I2P FTW 🏴‍☠️ Best way to safely find stuff unavailable on streaming sites.

Anti Commercial-AI license

CylustheVirus ,

Usenet.

Draedron ,

I know how to torrent but choose to use one click hosters instead since they are safer to use here and I dont want to pay for a vpn. People who get fines here are people who torrent because they want to bust seeders since they are redistributing

MaggiWuerze ,

Yeah, living in Germany a OCH is just the way to go. Also it's impossible to find decent content with German audio without having spent years seeding English stuff to get into a private tracker

Churbleyimyam ,

I heard that some employers are having to teach new 'gen z' employees how to download email attachments...

Kit ,

Gen Z struggles with file systems in general, because the vast majority of their technical experience is on mobile OS's. However, Gen Z compsci students are somehow far beyond the skill set that millennials had at their age. Or at least that has been my experience with interns over the past 12 years.

areyouevenreal ,

I was born in 2001. I didn't use a smartphone until I was like 16. We grew up with regular computers too. I also grew up with Windows XP and 7, as well as playing Doom using DosBox. Then again I am a computer science graduate, so maybe not the best example.

heavy ,

So is that like, what gets the kids street cred? Windows XP usage?

Pretty cool I guess?

areyouevenreal ,

Point being I've used tech from the era before smartphones.

heavy ,

Point being nobody gives a shit.

areyouevenreal ,

Why are you so negative?

heavy ,

Why do you want to be God's specialist little guy? You didn't contribute anything other than "oh I used Windows XP, unlike other Gen z." it's so insignificant and boring. Nothing personal but I'm just calling a spade a spade.

areyouevenreal ,

That's not at all what I am saying. I am saying that Gen Z aren't as tech illiterate as people seem to think and using myself as an example.

LunarLoony ,
@LunarLoony@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

I don't see you contributing much of value either...

heavy ,

Careful bud, you're really working over my feelings here.

LunarLoony ,
@LunarLoony@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Oh no

Churbleyimyam ,

No need for that tone old bean.

heavy ,

Keep fluffing each other

throws_lemy ,
@throws_lemy@lemmy.nz avatar

Just like me, I also grew up with Windows XP and still playing Master of Orion on Linux today.

SkyeStarfall ,

I guess because the Gen Z comp sci students are the people who are truly fluent in computers. We were immersed in the internet and digital technology from a young age, but also had the curiosity to go beneath the surface of them, and get a real understanding of how things work. Most people just use the technology superficially, even if they have grown up with the internet and computers.

sherlockholmez ,

100%, as a Gen Z CompSci student lol

HumanPerson ,

Gen Z here. Totally agree, though I personally am a bad example for this one. There was someone in my CS class once who I was put into a group with for a project. I needed some code that they had, so I asked them to put it on my flash drive. It was taking a while and eventually I asked why. They didn't know where their IDE saved their code, and were using Windows search to try and find it. They were pretty good at actual programming, logic, etc. though.

Jako301 ,

Tbh, that's something I can totally understand. Some programs use very obscure savefile locations, usually hidden behind 10 subfolders somewhere under your documents.

HumanPerson ,

I think the teacher specified that we use eclipse, and most who didn't were using vscode. If I recall correctly, they did use eclipse. I don't remember how it handles saves, but I don't think it does that.

AVincentInSpace ,

Everybody always says this, but I've yet to talk to anyone who even has an anecdote of talking to a Gen Z person for whom that's true.

interdimensionalmeme ,

What's the 411 on steamunlocked ? Just malware ? Can we just get the cracks like in the old days ?

ulterno ,
@ulterno@lemmy.kde.social avatar

Reading this as someone who torrents debian ISOs instead of directly downloading then in the hopes of reducing server load, while at the same time, not torrenting any pirated stuff.

But well, I was born a wee bit before 2000

geophysicist ,

Please post your address to send the medal

i_love_FFT ,
@i_love_FFT@lemmy.ml avatar

127.0.0.1

coleisforrobot ,

Based alert

jaxiiruff ,
@jaxiiruff@lemmy.zip avatar

Dude I was born in 2000 and I get so mad when I realize how true this is. Apps/"smart" phones might be regarded as the biggest double edged sword in the history of technology.

It literally feels like we are at a moment in history where we are evolving backwards by force. This will only worsen as the ipad babies grow older.

You will own nothing and be happy.
You will also know nothing and be happy.

pinchcramp ,
@pinchcramp@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

You will also know nothing and be happy.

Ignorance is bliss after all

meowMix2525 ,

We are actively being held back by companies catering exclusively to the lowest common denominator.

Riven ,
@Riven@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Might be a bit dramatic.
All sectors of industry are using more and more tech, we have more people in the workforce now that are tech literate than we did decades ago.

These are random numbers to explain my point.
Look at it this way, in the 90s maybe 20 percent of people knew how to use computers but 12 percent of those were truly tech savvy and knew the ins and out of using a pc.

Now a days 90 percent of people know how to use a pc (regardless of the form it presents itself, be it pc, phone, tablet, etc) but only like 30 percent of them might be truly tech savvy.

It's still a step up from back then, and because of the nature of tech in industry there's always gonna be plenty of people who know how to use pcs well and if there aren't then that's just more money for us who do know.

AOCapitulator ,
@AOCapitulator@hexbear.net avatar

People thought the same thing about written language, that it would ruin everyone's memory cause they could just write things down and wouldn't have to go through the honorable effort of rembering everything

Although, to be fair, they didn't have capitalism then so our similar worries might be more well founded lol

sag ,
@sag@lemm.ee avatar

I do torrent but only legal stuff: Like every Linux Distro ISO or Some other legal document and stuff.
If I have to torrent some ~mhm content I use remote torrenting using Telegram.

kib48 ,
@kib48@lemdro.id avatar

needing a paid vpn to torrent without getting spooky ISP notices is a pretty big barrier for me tbh :|

spaceaape ,

Get into a Private tracker. Or You could rent a vps in a country that doesn't care, torrent to that server and stream or sync it locally. You would never be torrenting on your local connection.

state_electrician ,

I don't understand how private trackers are supposed to be secure. They cannot guarantee that they keep out all bad actors and that means they're basically the same as public trackers, just more exclusive and with a slightly lower risk because of the barrier of entry. I used MyAnonamouse in the past and back then they weren't big fans of VPNs. But I will never use any tracker without a VPN.

spaceaape ,

Never had any issues with the private tracker I'm in or got any letter from my ISP. I definitely don't pay for a vpn. I could always use my rented vps(seedbox) as a vpn if i absolutely needed or wanted to.

isolatedscotch ,

My guess would be that companies will probably go after the 99.9% of people that torrent on public trackers, while ignoring private ones since it's not worth it to go to all that trouble just to track the last 0.1%

windlas ,

Use a p2p block list in your torrent client. Once I started using that the emails stopped.

I use: https://github.com/Naunter/BT_BlockLists/

But there are probably others

ElderWendigo ,
@ElderWendigo@sh.itjust.works avatar

A decade ago we figured out blacklists were ineffective. What's changed?

windlas ,

Better blocklists? They're working fine for me.

ElderWendigo ,
@ElderWendigo@sh.itjust.works avatar

Blocklists are ineffective by design. Each and every member of the swarm can collect all the data necessary to flag you to your ISP. Obviously any professional collecting this kind of data can avoid a blocklist. There is no such thing as a better blocklist.

BlueEther ,
@BlueEther@no.lastname.nz avatar

But they must only be like 8 years old. What are they doing down loading warez

akhial ,

Someone born in 2008 is now 16 years old.

BlueEther ,
@BlueEther@no.lastname.nz avatar

I must say it felt weird when I had the first of my staff with a 2000 birthdate, that young falla is now an assistant regional branch manager

LunarLoony ,
@LunarLoony@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Pretty sure I was fooling around with LimeWire at that age

kala_telo ,
@kala_telo@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

For me it's usually easier to "watch free online" rather than searching and downloading torrent, like, I have client installed just in case, but I barely use it. Last time I used it actually was official 9front iso, not pirating.

pearsaltchocolatebar ,

Look into the servarr suite. I just add what I want and it finds and downloads it for me.

Cethin ,

QBitTorrent has a search built in. You have to add scripts for each torrent host, but once you add a bunch it makes it very easy to just search through that and find what you want. Finding a free stream you have to go through a bunch of shady sites trying to find one that works and is half decent quality.

solsangraal ,

+1 for qbittorrent. i'm very arrr unsavvy but been using qbit for years and almost always find what i want using its built-in search

areyouevenreal ,

Weirdly enough I have never used that feature. Only found out about it after I started using Usenet and the *arr stack. Now if I want to search for something manually I use Prowlarr that allows me to search both Usenet and Bittorrent at the same time.

The rest of the time Radarr or Sonarr finds it for me.

Kolanaki ,
@Kolanaki@yiffit.net avatar

I remember when the go-to search term was "warez."

I still don't know if that was supposed to be pronounced like "wares" or "war-ehz." 🤔

MystikIncarnate ,

I don't think either answer is wrong.

cyberpunk007 ,

I always thought it was warez as in "wears". My understanding is it was short for "softwares" or something. Take the end, add a dash of 1337sp34k and you get warez.

Maybe I'm wrong.

UntitledQuitting ,

Software and hardware are both wares aka goods or services that are for sale. Merchants deal in wares. Pirates deal in warez.

ulterno ,
@ulterno@lemmy.kde.social avatar

Except that softwares and hardwares probably came out of the word "wares".

Hadriscus ,

My dad pronounced it war-easy. Some time later I played Morrowind and, well... "Khajit has warez if you have coin"

ghashul ,

My native language isn't English, so for me as a teen back then it was definitely the second option.

Neps ,
@Neps@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

I was born after 2000 I have to teach my parent how to torrent its not a generational thing lol

fartington ,

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  • LodeMike ,

    Because its convenient for them. For people who only have a phone Netflix for $2 or so a month is great.

    Scrollone ,

    Good luck finding Netflix for $2

    Zedstrian , (edited )

    It's $3 a month and called RealDebrid + Stremio

    Star ,

    Regional pricing exists. The cheapest plan is $2 in some countries.

    Star ,

    Regional pricing exists. The cheapest plan is $2 in some countries.

    31337 ,

    Where I live, I would still need to pay for a VPN to use torrents. I've been banned from an ISP before for torrenting (thankfully, I had multiple ISPs available for me).

    At the moment, I just "pay" legally because I get a few "free" streaming plans from my mobile provider and ISP. Occasionally, I just use a free streaming site if I really want to watch something that's not available to me. Every once in a while, I try anonymous p2p such as Tribler or torrenting over I2P, but it's still extremely slow, unfortunately. I've never used Usenet, but I think it's about the same price as a VPN or seedbox would be?

    spaceaape ,

    Get into a private tracker, or rent a VPS in a country that doesn't bend to the whim of capitalism, torrent to that vps and stream or sync it locally. I find that to have more peace of mind than using a vpn w/Killswitch.

    geophysicist ,

    To get into a private tracker you need to have a good seed to leech ratio, and to do that you need to upload a lot, which is what gets you on the ISP hitlist. This solution is by definition not useful for people in countries where the ISPs enforce no torrenting

    spaceaape , (edited )

    First, torrenting isn't illegal, and No ISP "enforces no torrenting" lol

    Your understanding of the solution here is a snake eating its own tail. Might wanna think on that one bud. Did the chicken or the egg come first? Solid Ratio or the private tracker account? Figure out how private trackers work first, then come correct.

    The real answer here is that there are intro private trackers one can join on an invite or free join days. If one desires, one then works on their ratio there to get into a better private tracker.

    Copyright holder's pay people to take snapshots of all the IP addresses currently leeching or seeding specific material on public trackers, so they can contact the ISP with the info and request they do something about it.

    geophysicist ,

    Are you deliberately being obtuse? They do enforce no torrenting of copyrighted material. Downloading they tend to not care, but uploading will get you legal notices in many EU nations

    spaceaape ,

    No you're just not understanding. Torrent is a web protocol, like http, ftp, and more. It's not inherently illegal.

    When you're downloading you spend less time on the public tracker and have less chance of being caught downloading than if you're seeding, or uploading. In the states, the copyright holder takes snapshots of the public trackers IP address pool for specific torrents of their intellectual property, and requests your ISP send you a notice and threaten disconnection.

    areyouevenreal ,

    Usenet seems to work really well, and can be surprisingly cheap. Try FrugalUsenet. If you want both VPN and Usenet then try something like Eweka. They do deals where you get both Usenet access and a cheap VPN. It's about €105 for 15 months or €6.99 per month.

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