DropBear ,
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From a 93 year old (old enough to have lived through the times of the Holocaust and the founding of Israel) Jewish Australian:
"The impression I formed then, and which has been confirmed by subsequent events is that there was and is a deep, shared psychosocial illness infecting Israel but not Jews more generally."
...
"Let’s not confuse and generalise the attitude I and others have identified as underlying the conflict between Israel and Palestine with being anti-Semitic. This blurring of a clear boundary has been used inappropriately and misleadingly by many."
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"... the human slaughter in Gaza and the enormous waste of resources on armaments to further that genocide could be stopped by refusing any more aid to Israel."
https://johnmenadue.com/israel-palestine-my-personal-experience-and-conversion/








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NickSchwanck ,
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@DropBear @palestine @israel There was a large Jewish population in the city I grew up in (Melbourne, Australia). I knew them, went to school with them, my parents did business with them, some were my friends. The trip to Israel was for some, de rigeur.
They came back different. Not in a good way.

DropBear OP ,
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@NickSchwanck
As Yarden Katz wrote:
"Anyone wishing to understand how the Holocaust was possible, how people who may be warm and kind in their personal lives could support the murder of an entire population deemed subhuman, should examine Israeli society."

"... the zionist project, culminating in Israel, is profoundly contrary to Jewish traditions ... Israel has suppressed these Jewish traditions and ways of living while hijacking parts of them when convenient."

"... the dismantling of Israel and the liberation of Palestine must also be a Jewish struggle — a struggle that should go far beyond Jews showing solidarity for Palestinians or simply not wanting to be oppressors. “Israeli” is a colonial identity that should be renounced, not just because it harms Palestinians but also because it is deeply anti-Jewish."

https://mondoweiss.net/2023/11/are-israelis-jews-returning-to-jewish-minority-life/








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NickSchwanck ,
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@DropBear @palestine @israel My first proper girlfriend was Jewish. She attended a secular high school but also went to camps organised by their synagogue. I knew a lot of kids who did this. Her mother wouldn't enter our house because of our German surname (my family is Finnish, the German name is from the 1730s). I was 16 and, apparently, a potential nazi.
Her father was Bulgarian but had lived in Israel. He was a veteran of the Six Day War. He was a Zionist.
I never understood what that meant until I reconnected with her on Facebook.
She began referring to Palestinians as "vermin" and "animals". She's never been to Israel. She was simply parroting her father.
They're disgusting people.

DropBear OP ,
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The indoctrination is alarming @NickSchwanck and sadly few manage to deprogram themselves.

A recovering Zionist speaks:
"I have been grieving deeply not just since last October, but ever since I woke up to the reality of what Israel is, and what it stands for."
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"The Palestinian people did nothing wrong. Their ‘big crime’, for which they are being eliminated is that they happened to live on the land that the Zionists coveted for an exclusively Jewish ghetto state."
https://avigail.substack.com/p/grief-and-guilt-by-association









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NickSchwanck ,
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@DropBear @palestine @israel My ex was never the sharpest tool in the shed. She's deeply right-wing. Migrants are to blame for everything.

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