“Do you condemn Hamas?: The question we have to ask ourselves is not whether we condemn Hamas, but whether we condemn a settler colonial regime that makes armed struggle necessary for survival.”
“Like them [Hamas] or not, the efforts they have waged and continue to wage have made more of a material impact toward the liberation of Palestine than anything any of us in the West will ever make. They are taking on the brutal violence of colonial power and waging a campaign of armed struggle that has, at the current moment, with coordination with other resistance factions, made the Zionist colony more of a pariah than it has ever been on a global stage and shattered the image of military invincibility and overall stability it has spent decades cultivating. Countless years of struggle have culminated in this flashpoint.”
it depends on how you define terrorist. anyone who murders and rapes as a means to an end is a terrorist regardless of how just they believe their cause might be.
@zephry@GeriatricGardener@mondoweiss@palestine@israel one man's terrorist, is another Man's freedom fighter
If not for freedom fighters ALL oppressed people would still be in chains.
The only language oppressor's know is violence.
Sometimes good people have to do bad things to achieve freedom
Would you sit back while your family was killed? Your community destroyed? Your country invaded & stolen?
@Sine_Nomine@GeriatricGardener@mondoweiss@palestine@israel "Would you sit back while your family was killed? Your community destroyed? Your country invaded & stolen? " if you omit the last word, this is exactly what hamas did on oct 7th.
@zephry@GeriatricGardener@mondoweiss@palestine@israel you forget who invaded who, Israelis Zionists invaded Palestine in 1946, warred against the native inhabitants, you may have heard of it the #Nakba
they slaughtered innocent civilians, men, women, children, drove the rest out of "israel" they've been doing it ever since.
Israel is not a state it's an invading, occupying terrorist army. The only state is Palestine, israel is a zionist colonial idea. Who's end is fast approaching.
Interesting question @jeremy_pm
The region being a route from Africa to Europe, there's evidence of modern humans in the area 120,000 years ago. Judaism hasn't existed that long.
Before that, there were other hominids. The earliest remains are estimated to be 1.5 million years old.
As to "recorded history". Even their own mythology tells against the Jewish. Chapter 15 of Genesis/Bereshit lists peoples who were displaced to establish the Jewish Kingdoms. So Jews weren't "first". There may be "indigenous" jews, but there are also indigenous Moslems and Christians.
So you support USA and Canada being returned to the indigenous peoples of America? After all, the colonisation and ethnic cleansing of both countries happened far more recently than 2-3,000 years ago.
You're using the Israeli Zionist hasbara definition of "indigenous", I see @zephry
As their own mythology affirms, Jews took the lands from other peoples. They're thus colonisers.
No, so now there are 40,000 more reasons why the people of Gaza want revenge against Israeli warcrimes. If you were a civilian in Gaza, you'd be the same.
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