How many people actually want fully on-site IT jobs?

I've been looking for a new job as a software developer. The huge majority of job listings I see in my area are hybrid or remote. I just had an introductory phone call with Vizio (which didn't specify the location type in the job listing). The recruiter told me that the job was fully on-site, which I told her was a deal breaker for me.

It makes me wonder how many other people back out after hearing that the job is on-site. And it makes me wonder why this wasn't specified in the job description. I assume most people only want hybrid or remote jobs these days, right?

Anyways I was just wondering how many of you guys apply for on-site IT jobs? Hybrid is so much better, I don't know why people would apply for on-site jobs unless they have no other options.

AnalogyAddict ,

I hope to never go back to office. Remote has been a life changer. I have time to keep weeds out of my garden. The flexibility to have workers at my house whenever they are available. The freedom to set up my desk how I like it. Time to eat breakfast. I don't get headaches every day any more from the lighting. I get to go outside during breaks for some sunshine time. I'm here when the kids come home.

My work is more focused. No more road stress. I may be able to move to a place I can tolerate. No more wearing makeup that is bad for my skin. No more having to pack a lunch. My life is infinitely better without having to commute.

EnderMB ,

There is one reason I think onsite works, and that's for relocation.

If you are from the US and you want to move to the UK, how do you intend to move via work if your work is remote?

I love remote work, but I've not heard a rebuttal for this other than "don't let foreigners move here" or "let's let people move based on their level of education".

bitchkat ,

It's entirely possible that people can work remote but still relocate to an area where the company has a presence. For example, they may not be set up to pay taxes in a certain jurisdiction. For example, my company could not hire Canadian residents until we had a legal entity in Canada. Thankfully we bought a cabadieb firm.

EnderMB ,

Why would a company decide to grant you a working visa when you will primarily be remote? Furthermore, why would the government grant you a visa when you could, in theory, work from your own country?

bitchkat ,

As I said, they may not have support to pay or provide benefits in the area where they live. So perhaps you need to move to a different state or country but can still work remote. E.g. Maybe I take a remote job with a company in the UK but I decide to live in Glasgow instead of London.

jaschen ,

Web marketer here. If it says hybrid or on site, it's an automatic no for me. Nobody is taking me away from watching my son grow up.

CaptPretentious ,

My job I'm classified as remote. And I like it that way. Recently they have decided that a bunch of people even if remote will now have to come on site at least hybrid. For "collaboration". I even noted that in my employment contract I had in there that I was to work from home, to which HR said that they really don't care.

My last year-end review was stellar. Top marks, praises from multiple departments, even got a promotion.

But I happen to live to close to a location, so there's 'simply nothing that can be done'. So I've already started looking for different work.

Pacattack57 ,

People want to be paid. Period. Anyone who tells you they won’t take a job because it’s not remote is a liar. Either that or they are privately wealthy and can afford to not work until their unicorn job appears.

neomachino ,

When I was looking for a new job a couple years ago I turned down a lot of on-site and hybrid job for the sole reason that they weren't fully remote. Some of the jobs actually interested me and I would have loved to take at the time. And I can assure you I am far from wealthy.

Working from home I get to see my wife during the day, play with my son whenever I want, make my own lunch in my kitchen, water my garden during the day, work outside if I want to.

The peace of mind that it brings me is worth $400k. That's the minimum I would take to go into the office no more than 30 minutes away once a week at most.

I know that's unrealistic but so is making employees go into the office for something they're fully capable of doing at home.

Pacattack57 ,

You are just a liar bud. If nothing else you are lying to yourself.

If you were out of work and were offered an office position you would take it. The fact that you have a family makes it even more certain.

Don’t misunderstand my comment. I never said you have to like the job or even keep it. If you were out of work you would accept the position until you found a better offer. You don’t stay jobless when you have no money.

Obviously when you have a job you would pass on a job that doesn’t meet your expectations, that’s common sense. My comment was meant more towards being on the hunt while unemployed. Even still if the money was right I guarantee you would take an office job. Your wife wouldn’t let you turn it down. Money talks and people that want to pretend they are above it are lying to themselves.

neomachino ,

If I wan unemployed and had no savings and no other job offers, of course I would take whatever job I could get. I hear the market is shit right now but still, it was never that hard to find a remote job if you're qualified at least as a software dev.

Also my wife would let me turn down whatever job if it didn't feel right as long as we're covered. I turned down a job for ~60% more pay that would've required 2-3 days in the office about 40 minutes away for my current job that's fully remote and let's me make my own hours. I spent a couple nights working on my couch watching movies and working last week so I could take Friday off with full pay and go to a water park.

You cannot replace that freedom and extra time.

Although there are circumstances that could make me consider going into an office, they would have to be dier.

HatchetHaro ,
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lol ok boomer

Persen ,

I'm planning to have an on-site job, so I can actually meet some new people.

kandoh ,

Maybe you should meet yourself first

kamen ,

The only argument I see in favour of office time is if your home situation doesn't allow you to focus - family, kids and so on, or if you deliberately want a physical separation and you don't have a dedicated office space at home.

kent_eh , (edited )

You're talking specifically about software based IT jobs.

Those of us who deal with the hardware have always been and will always be on-site and hands on.

Daxtron2 ,

I would rather not be employed. I hated everything about my in-office jobs. The clothes, the pointless small talk, the "quick sidebars" that end up being longer than a meeting but could've just been a text conversation. The only thing I miss was lunchtime banter and finding fellow nerds to infodump with.

AA5B , (edited )

I have a pretty good hybrid situation, where it’s probably good for me to get dressed and out of the house twice a week. It helps that it’s only three mile commute with no traffic. I’d probably look for that, even if I don’t like going in.

That being said, we hire across many time zones and I don’t even work with local people so I’m not sure the point. Why is my company wasting money on a local office so I can be on Zoom all day, but can’t spend the travel budget even once for me to meet the people I work with (from Boston, I generally work with people in London, Toronto, Bangalore)

spacemanspiffy ,

I work with a few who prefer the office over work from home.
I think they need a way to escape the house/wife/kids and the office is the only quiet place they have to work.

kent_eh ,

I work with a few who prefer the office over work from home.

It does allow for a more clean break between work and non-work mindset.

I find it helps maintain a more healthy work-life balance.

Plus, I work on hardware, so it's not like I can do that remotely most of the time anyway.

Graphy ,

I enjoy office work more than wfh because I genuinely like the people I work with and I think we riff off each other way better in person

funkless_eck ,

I dont know if I agree with the work life balance.

Shower, groom, dress and commute starting at 6.30am, work 8.30–5.30 and commute to 6.30/7

or work 8.45-5.15ish and maybe spend an extra hour or two coupla times a week?

Huge difference.

CurlyWurlies4All ,
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My team moved to fully remote a month ago. I'm loving it so far.

Getting to see my little girl throughout my day makes me feel like I'm not missing out on watching her grow up.

RBWells ,

I think I may be the only person on the face of the earth with no preference on this. My commute is immaterial, the office about 2k away, working from home is kind of a drag but I don't have to get dressed and can keep the household going (which is part of why it's a drag) online meetings suck even more than in person meetings, otherwise fine to work remotely. So when we were working from home, I was fine with it, then hybrid I thought would be the worst of all, no, it was fine. Now they say come in at least 3 days, I am going to put away the home workstation and just work at the office, reclaim the space at home, that's fine too. It's pretty much the same job either way.

Simulation6 ,

I have only ever worked on-site jobs, so I am very used to it. The main plus for me is interacting with my co-workers. You run into the occasional jerk or someone having a bad day, but usually it is a great way to learn new things and gain different perspectives.

lazycouchpotato ,
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I've been remote for the 3 years of work experience that I've had. I live in a city with piss poor public transportation and detest traffic, plus I enjoy waking up 10 minutes before having to clock in.

The pay and perks would have to be substantial for me to consider working on-site.

stoy ,

IT guy here, I absolutely hate working from home, I want separation between my work life and my home life.

I need that to change my brain from home mode to work mode.

oozynozh ,

Fellow IT guy here, I absolutely hate working from the office. Home life is my life and work life only matters to me insofar as it's necessary to my home life.

Anything taking my brain from home mode to work mode is an obstacle that should be avoided.

Gumus , (edited )

I took up online tutoring and teaching programming for kids. It has great benefits:

  • It's an hour or so after work, it has a fixed schedule so it forces me to clock out
  • it makes me focus hard so I completely forget about work
  • it pays for itself (not my corporate day-job rate, but I'm not doing it for free)
  • I can try out languages and tech I'd normally wouldn't be able to in my day job, or I'd have to invest my free time for a side project
  • I have a background in teaching... I like it, it's fun and refreshing
  • I've helped many kids jump start their interest in programming even in families that know nothing about tech at all. I've helped a few of them to get accepted to the school they wanted to and pursue a career in programming

All in all, teaching after work makes for a great hobby and a strong barrier for my day job so I don't find myself working late anymore.

skullgiver ,
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I've heard a lot of people about how much they enjoy working fully remotely. Almost all of them have a separate home office room to work in.

stoy ,

I am sure they do enjoy it, just as I don't.

tty5 ,

For me that's achieved by being 6 timezones ahead - I finish work, turn off my computer and go to sleep.

tobogganablaze , (edited )

Yep, totally this.

I occationally have to fix stuff on the weekend and even than I'll rather go to the office than doing it from home.

Also I have different monitor/keyboard/mouse setups and I really don't like working on my home setup.

otherbarry ,

I've been fully onsite basically the whole time, including during the pandemic, for me it's been fine. Gets me out of my tiny studio apartment and keeps my work life at work. Also free A/C / heating at work.

The commute is also part of that decision making - for me the commute is a long walk outside to/from work every day. All that walking around outside sort of levels me out mentally & gets rid of any stress I had, not to mention the exercise.

blahsay ,

Full remote all the way.

Demand that in your contracts so you have flexibility. Then it's a choice not an obligation to come to the office.

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