sxan ,
@sxan@midwest.social avatar

"Improved mental state"?

"Improved self-confidence"?

I think the person who made this list did not grow up as a girl. This coming hard on the heels of man/bear.

HopeOfTheGunblade ,
@HopeOfTheGunblade@kbin.social avatar

Depends on where you start. My mental state was pretty fucked before, and while I can't say my self confidence is amazing, you shoulda seen it then. Definitely not for everyone, tho.

sxan ,
@sxan@midwest.social avatar

Yeah, after I posted I realized it probably meant that transitioning to your identified gender improved your mental health, not that girls are more mentally healthy. Same with self-image. I left it because, wiggle-room.

snooggums ,
@snooggums@midwest.social avatar

This coming hard on the heels

Keep your kinks to yourself!

CheesyCheese1 OP ,

I think the person who made this list did not grow up as a girl.

Are you trying to argue that us trans women aren't real women you disgusting pig?

MentalEdge , (edited )
@MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz avatar

You are on a hair trigger, friend. No one's trying to reject you or hurt you.

Your meme didn't land with some of us, that doesn't make you any less valid.

The meme implies the list of benefits simply comes with being a woman, not just from transitioning as a trans person.

If you're trans, every step of transitioning to your real gender is a real improvement to your life and health.

But if you're not trans, or are trans, but FtoM or just look at it a little different...

The meme is rubbing people the wrong way because it mixed up the improvements that come from transitioning as a trans person, with being a woman being better than being a man.

If you were assigned male and transitioned or started transitioning to female, of course your life and health will be better!

But you accidentally implied being a woman automatically solves a bunch of problems that women absolutely can and do still have, and that the problems men have are caused by them being men.

Gladaed ,

Forgot the /s

Oszilloraptor , (edited )

Baby-Transfem here, started HRT literally last week:

Until last friday I was suicidal, constantly depressed and full of self-hate I couldn't understand.

Since I got my first dose estrogen my mental health drastically improved (as did some other hormone-related body functions that only need the hormones in my blood but not necessarily a prolonged exposure).

I learned from my doc that some transpersons have a brain structure of their non-assigned sex and then show exactly my pattern of relief; meaning my brain was actually born to be estrogen- instead of testosterone-dominated.
(which seems to be based on the hormones oned mom exposed one during 3-4th and 10-14th week of infancy. One periods influences the gender of the brain, the other the sex of the general body)

So while I see where you are coming from, and I heavily prepare myself for all the sexism that will probably bring me back to earth as soon as I visually feminize; I can attest that HRT improved both drastically for me (for now)

sxan ,
@sxan@midwest.social avatar

Yup! I replied to someone else that my comment was just about female-ness, not about fixing something broken about you. Your situation and result are entirely valid!

AsherahTheEnd , (edited )

This gives a very specific kind of trans woman vibe and I don't think I like it. I think it's the "angry masculine mannerisms" that is bothering me. Masc / butch trans women exist too, and it feels weird to imply only men get angry. This seems to simplify and put into a box what being a trans woman is.

Edit: also HRT affects everyone differently and to act like it makes everyone cute and small and feminine is misleading. Being trans is exhausting sometimes and takes a lot of work, and some may never fit this description regardless of how hard they try.

Edit 2: I'm a trans woman myself and I'm nearly 99% sure OP is just a troll at this point. If not, she's seriously making herself look like a moron.

CheesyCheese1 OP ,

Thanks so much I really needed a cis person to explain to me, a trans woman what it really means to be trans /s, fuck off.

AsherahTheEnd ,

Thanks for assuming I'm fucking cis and not a fellow fucking trans woman. Fuck you and fuck your stupid, demeaning "meme". Fucking jerk.

CheesyCheese1 OP ,

You don't fool me, I know a cissy when I see one, "Ally" doesn't count either, nice try there.

AsherahTheEnd ,

I really hope you're just an elaborate troll and not being serious. If you are being serious, seek professional help. If you're just a shitty troll pretending to be trans to try to make us look bad, then truly, sincerely, go fuck yourself. 🥰

CheesyCheese1 OP ,

Ahhh I see, you're a pickme. That's not much better.

AsherahTheEnd ,

I'm in a long term committed relationship with another woman. But go off about how I'm somehow a "pick me". At least I'm not the one telling gender non-conforming trans women that they aren't "real women" because they might be more masc than your ideal 100% fem and perfect trans woman. 🙄 I've also seen your other comments and my gosh you reek of transmed bullshit. You truly don't understand the damage you are doing by posting dumb shit like this and it's depressing as fuck.

AgentOrangesicle ,
@AgentOrangesicle@lemmy.world avatar

I understand not vibing with the brand of humor, but y'all are coming on a little strong to each other.
I get the misportrayal of masculinity being an issue. This just escalated quickly.

AsherahTheEnd , (edited )

If she hadn't gone from 0 to 100 because of my very light criticism then maybe I'd be a bit more friendly. Her reaction set me off and I know I'm not in the wrong here. Fucking claiming I'm a cis man is a good way of pissing me the fuck off.

Honytawk ,

He*

The guy is clearly a troll.

AsherahTheEnd ,

Don't do that.

CheesyCheese1 OP ,

Here we see, a transphobic pig trying to justify misgendering through name-calling.

SkyezOpen ,

You literally misgendered a trans woman in this thread. What the fuck is you doing.

CheesyCheese1 OP ,

Doesn't count, she is a pickme.

Ifera ,

No true scotsman fallacy, how cute.

CheesyCheese1 OP ,

You think Blair white counts too? You probably would.

AVincentInSpace ,

are you seriously fucking gatekeeping what it means to be trans

riodoro1 ,

So far it seems youre just trying to be annoying. If you didn’t want anyone to tell you anything you could’ve just kept your meme to yourself.

Cano ,

Counterpoint: I can do the helicopter with my dick

Tenthrow Mod ,
@Tenthrow@lemmy.world avatar

There are plenty of women who can do that too.

Hackworth ,

Do the helicopter with his dick?

name_NULL111653 ,

No, with her own dick...

feedum_sneedson ,

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  • CheesyCheese1 OP ,

    Oh look, another transphobic pig, just FYI, yes a woman can have a penis, I should know I am such a woman who has a penis (hopefully not for long though).

    feedum_sneedson ,

    No.

    CheesyCheese1 OP ,

    I'm getting bottom surgery eventually you dumb fuck whether you like it or not.

    feedum_sneedson ,

    I just dropped such an evil fart in this trench I'm digging I thought I had cracked the sewer main, I'm not joking, I don't know what the fuck I ate but that really can't be normal.

    CheesyCheese1 OP ,

    Usually people your age are still in diapers, mama's so proud of you for using the toilet.

    feedum_sneedson ,

    Didn't follow through on this occasion, but that is beginning to happen more frequently. Thanks, Mum!

    Honytawk ,

    That is a lot of assumptions for someone who want people to stop assuming your biological sex.

    rustyfish ,
    @rustyfish@lemmy.world avatar

    Ability to wear adorable clothes

    I already do that. No reason for transitioning.

    Fuck social norms.

    Fuck the police.

    And fuck you.

    aggressively flings fluffy scarf over the shoulder

    CheesyCheese1 OP ,

    I never understood how people get so stuck in-denial, I mean ask yourself, is there really something so wrong with being a girl. Really what is so bad abut that to you that you'll intentionally and repeatedly deny who you are to yourself?
    I wish you luck sis and I hope you can come out to yourself and be happy one day.

    LovePoson ,
    @LovePoson@lemmy.world avatar

    Clearly you didn't understand anything...

    rustyfish ,
    @rustyfish@lemmy.world avatar

    You are nothing but a troll and I love how the mods do jack shit about it.

    CheesyCheese1 OP ,

    Lemmy.world sure is full of transphobes and pickmes 🤮, it's just like Reddit.

    Honytawk ,

    You keep trying to push a narrative, but it just isn't working.

    Nobody is falling for your crap.

    I'd ask you to go back to Reddit, but Lemmy has this neat feature to block trolls.

    mp3 ,
    @mp3@lemmy.ca avatar

    ...are you trying to tell them what their gender should be?

    CheesyCheese1 OP ,

    This person is clearly in-denial, I'm not saying they should or shouldn't be anything, it's just obvious they aren't entirely cis if you catch my drift.

    Oszilloraptor ,

    In another comment you clearly stated that femboys are not the same thing as trans.

    And now you want to push the transfem label onto a non-afab person just because they admit to wear gender-non-conforming clothes?

    CheesyCheese1 OP ,

    No I said we aren't femboys, we are women. If someone claims to be a boy and dresses fem it's clear they aren't entirely cis, if they were such act would give them unbelievable gender dysphoria and discomfort.

    Oszilloraptor ,

    This is a meme about trans women, please don't conflate us with femboys.

    Sounds for me like:

    "femboys exist, but we are not the same"; not "femboys do not exist. They're just in denial"

    (and I do agree with the first; not with the second)

    SkyezOpen ,

    You just singlehandedly invalidated the gender identity of every cis drag queen. That's impressive.

    SkyezOpen ,

    Maybe they need therapy to help convert them.

    Oh wait.

    Maybe let people exist, eh?

    CheesyCheese1 OP ,

    Don't compare cracking someone's egg to conversion therapy, they are not the same, cracking people's eggs saves lives, it frees them from denial and allows them to be happy as their authentic self. Conversion therapy tries to force people deeper into denial.
    This is such a rotten and transphobic argument.

    FarmTaco ,

    right its so much different when its your opinion you are attempting to bend people to instead of one you disagree with

    CheesyCheese1 OP ,

    Conversion therapy is transphobia, transphobia isn't an opinion, calling transphobia an opinion is like calling arsenic a flavor.
    I'm not trying to bend anyone to anything, I'm just pointing out that they're dressing like a girl, and acting like a girl, put two and two together and you can see where that's going. Is this really that hard for people to understand?

    FarmTaco ,

    "You are what I say you are, not what you say you are" - thats what you're going with, surprising take.

    SkyezOpen ,

    You are not the arbiter of who is or is not trans. You are free to help someone come to the realization that they may be trans, but do not invalidate their identity in the process.

    Gender expression is a spectrum, and just because someone isn't 100% gender conforming doesn't automatically make them trans.

    CheesyCheese1 OP ,

    It is not invalidating their identity it is helping discover who they really are, helping them come out of the egg and break the denial that prevents them from being their most legitimate selves.

    SkyezOpen ,

    It is not invalidating their identity it is helping discover who they really are

    Literally indistinguishable from transphobe rhetoric.

    AVincentInSpace ,

    Not everyone is trans, homesicle. If I take a long hard look at my gender and decide that I'm happier as the man I was born than as a woman, that's my business. Trying to force me into a female body would make me just as miserable as your male one was for you.

    Also I couldn't help but notice that you seem to conflate anger as a concept with masculinity.

    creditCrazy ,
    @creditCrazy@lemmy.world avatar

    At first I thought this was a light hearted shit post but god you talk like a Jehovah's witness

    Moneo ,

    Any conservatives seeing this thread are having all of their conspiracy theories validated.

    Ifera ,

    Comments like yours make me wish we had awards, lmao.

    OneWomanCreamTeam ,
    @OneWomanCreamTeam@sh.itjust.works avatar

    Bad troll.

    Loki ,
    @Loki@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

    This reads as casually sexist towards both men and women. Agression? Luscious hair? This isn't really a meme, this is just "man bad, (idealised) woman good", that's neither funny nor relatable

    Soulg ,

    It absolutely reeks of an /r/egg_irl femcel, especially their comments through the rest of the thread.

    Draconic_NEO ,
    @Draconic_NEO@lemmy.world avatar

    Yeah they're definitely giving egg_irl vibes, I don't know what femcel is though, is that something else like egg_irl?

    Soulg ,

    A femcel is a female incel

    Draconic_NEO ,
    @Draconic_NEO@lemmy.world avatar

    I guess that makes sense, I don't really get why it needs a separate word though.

    Soulg ,

    I didn't coin it, but they're different in a few different ways. Plus, typically part of the problem with incels is the rampant misogyny, but with femcels it tends to be more misandry

    Draconic_NEO ,
    @Draconic_NEO@lemmy.world avatar

    Ah I see. That makes sense.

    SuiXi3D ,
    @SuiXi3D@fedia.io avatar

    So, like, I literally don’t care if someone identifies as whatever gender. You do you.

    Just don’t tell me how to do me.

    TubularTittyFrog ,

    amen

    the_post_of_tom_joad ,

    I actually disagree with the anger one I've seen women get angry. Anger is a gift for everyone

    TrousersMcPants ,

    Yeah, "angry, masculine mannerisms" sounds kind of shitty. I'm very happy for anyone who can express themselves as their own chosen gender but we don't need to put down others.

    rbesfe ,

    OP you need help

    LostWanderer , (edited )

    The same thing could be achieved by self reflection, developing emotional intelligence, and doing the work to improve as a man! That way hostile masculine feelings can be calmed.

    Nothing wrong with becoming a cute girl if that’s what will bring you gender euphoria.

    OsaErisXero ,

    I am almost certain that the hips and tiddies can't come from self-reflecting harder.

    the_post_of_tom_joad ,

    Unless you're self-reflecting with my pals ben and jerry

    Protoknuckles ,

    But....my beard. ;_;

    ChihuahuaOfDoom ,

    I think some tiddies would nicely contrast my beard.

    Protoknuckles ,

    Well, I have those already, but they aren't nice ones...

    Oszilloraptor ,

    (un)fortunately HRT does not remove your beard ;)

    Wanna be a beautiful girl with a wonderful shiny beard?

    There is a chance!

    (Altho having specific physical goals in mind on HRT is more a gamble; and obviously (unfortunately, but it is what it is) a beard on a girl will often lead to weird looks and remarks.)

    Bonehead ,

    Decimate my fapping addiction? I think you mean exacerbate...

    Skua ,

    After all, how else am I to appreciate the tits that I now have?

    feedum_sneedson ,

    Ah yes, nothing more typically female than jacking off to your own breasts.

    VulKendov ,
    @VulKendov@reddthat.com avatar

    I don't think this is the right audience for this.

    UnfortunateShort ,

    You know, I fully support converting everyone into fem- and or tomboys, but this is really more of a shitpost than a meme and I hope you can see why it's not exactly received well in c/memes

    CheesyCheese1 OP ,

    This is a meme about trans women, please don't conflate us with femboys.

    DestroyMegacorps ,

    Doesnt this come free when you buy a second hand thinkpad?

    CheesyCheese1 OP ,

    Sadly not, I would've bought many thinkpads if it did.

    DestroyMegacorps ,

    Atleast thinkpads are the femboy and transgender laptop :3

    captainlezbian ,

    It’s blue actually

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