Can't figure out how to get Plank working on Wayland

Hey y'all

So I've been a big anti-Wayland shill around here but decided to finally give it a shot, I installed Debian 12 with GNOME, and can't seem to get Plank working.

Without the Plank dock, GNOME is unusable, and KDE refuses to autostart Guake (does not save the setting in autostart), and when it works it seems broken (stuck to the left side of the screen).

These are fundamental apps to me for any decent Linux laptop use. What gives? Is there an alternative?

antsu ,

Just echoing what others said, Plank does not run on Wayland. You can install the "Dash to Dock" Gnome extension for a very similar experience (minus widgets).
If using KDE, consider replacing Guake (which is GTK) with Yakuake (Qt).

bbbhltz ,
@bbbhltz@beehaw.org avatar

Hi,

It it possible that Plank doesn't work with Wayland, plain and simple.

https://bugs.launchpad.net/plank/+bug/1632841

The latest version dates back to 2019.

I think Dash to dock is used often.

For Guake the version in Bookworm is from 2022 and you may need to set an environmental variable or perhaps it isn't built with Wayland support on Debian.

You could hit up the Debian forums for a better answer.

LainTrain OP ,

That's unfortunate. Will have to switch back to X.Org until this is fixed by the Wayland/XWayland developers, is there any clue as to why it specifically wouldn't work? If it's updated as recently as 2019 then I'd have expected Wayland to fix this by now, not like I'm trying to run a DOS game or something haha!

d_k_bo ,

Will have to switch back to X.Org until this is fixed by the Wayland/XWayland developers

This isn't the responsibility of “wayland developers”. The developers of an application need to adapt to the new API.

TheGrandNagus ,

The Dash to Plank dev doesn't want to support Wayland. You could use Dash to Panel instead, that's been the community favourite for years now.

Or of course you could use the standard Gnome workflow.

LainTrain OP ,

I've never heard of either of these things and I've been in the community for decades, cheers.
I only use Plank itself, not dash-to-x anything. I've no idea what that even means tbh as I'm an i3 user usually so I've been out of the GNOME game for a bit.

leopold ,

if you're coming from i3, you may want to check out Sway instead.

Altomes ,

https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/307/dash-to-dock/

I use this and its worked great

wildbus8979 ,

Dash-to-Plank specifically says it does not support Wayland. Plank has had an issue open about Wayland support since 2016, and they still haven't done it. Can't blame Wayland.

What's your use case for Plank? My guess is you're using GNOME wrong.

GolfNovemberUniform ,
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Lemmy never fails to surprise me with its toxicity.

taladar ,

"you're using it wrong" seems more like the official motto of Wayland whenever anything that isn't working on it is brought up.

GolfNovemberUniform ,
@GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml avatar

Ikr

0oWow , (edited )

I wouldn't blame Lemmy for a few bad apples like Wildbus though. There are plenty of good people here.

GolfNovemberUniform ,
@GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml avatar

I don't blame Lemmy even though the official instance (and therefore devs) is kinda sus. They even delete discriminatory comments that I report quite quickly. The thing is that I see toxic comments all the time and what surprises me is that often they're replies to non-provoking and absolutely reasonable posts/comments (this case is not anywhere near the worst I've seen). That means the people behind them are just very aggressive which still hurts me a lot even though I lost hope for humanity quite some time ago. I guess I see a bit more % of them in the wild than you do for some reason

LainTrain OP ,

What is Dash-to-Plank? I just use Plank the dock app.

wildbus8979 ,

https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/4198/dash-to-plank/

its_me_gb ,

You could try Yakuake instead of Guake in KDE?

LainTrain OP ,

Sure! Is it missing any features from Guake, or is it just some clone fork?

optissima ,
@optissima@lemmy.world avatar

Pretty sure Yakuake is the OG?

leopold ,

Well, technically the OG would be Quake, but Yakuake did come before Guake.

0oWow ,

You might try Dash to Dock also:

https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/307/dash-to-dock/

its_me_gb ,

I'm afraid that I've never used either Guake or Yakuake so I don't know either of their feature sets 😁

leopold ,

Neither is a fork of the other, but Yakuake came first. I assume it has more features, since that's how it usually goes with KDE apps vs GNOME apps. Haven't tried Guake, tho.

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