‘Opposition and rage’: queer groups challenge Pride to divest from Israel ⋆ The Breach ( breachmedia.ca )

According to Bain in Toronto, a reliance on funding from corporations and the Canadian government has made pride festivals and other major LGBTQ+ organizations, like Egale and Rainbow Canada, beholden to those funders.

“They are forced into silence,” Bain said, referring to mainstream Pride organizers. “They have chosen to be silent as well, because they have chosen to accept the funding. And they have chosen to align themselves with state policies that actually support Israel, and then also support the pinkwashing that Israel does.”

delirious_owl ,
@delirious_owl@discuss.online avatar

Pink washing

VictoriaAScharleau ,

no, these people really have this position, and its ideologically consistent over the years.

OsaErisXero ,

Bricks don't need sponsors

northmaple1984 ,

Hahahahaha, because Hamas/Palestians and basically every Muslim country treats LGBTQ people so well....

I challenge these Pride organisations to go run a Pride Parade pretty kuch anywhere in the Middle East except Israel and see what happens.

Arkouda ,

How is this comment helpful or productive?

jol ,

You can be against Israel's actions while also being against Islam and middle east's treatment of LGBT folks.

kent_eh ,

Of course, but you can't fight everyone.

Choosing your battles and focusing your efforts wisely can generally accomplish more.

thesporkeffect ,

We should just agree to pick one geopolitically unpopular genocide and oppose it real firmly, and let the others slide. Makes sense.

Pfeffy ,

Okay, I choose the one that is bribing our government and carrying out genocide, Not the ones starving to death and getting bombed out of existence then.

villasv ,

Of course, but you can’t fight everyone.

Clearly some can, and it's a group large enough to make it to the headline

humorlessrepost ,

Dear lemmy, is genocide still a bad if some of the people being genocided don’t like me?

northmaple1984 ,

Some genocide, where the supposed aggressor takes care to try their best to move the target population out of harms way despite the fact that their actual militarised enemies deeply embed within the population, and the population grows enormously over the course of the decades of the supposed genocide.

If it is a genocide, someone needs to tell Israel they are doing it wrong.

Pfeffy ,

supposed aggressor takes care to try their best to move the target population out of harms way

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nakba

rozodru ,

ah got it. so that's why Israel decided to bomb and kill aid workers. yeah totally doing it wrong, someone needs to tell them that.

northmaple1984 ,

Yes, because never in the course of any war throughout history have innocent bystanders been hit by accident.

Israel has enough firepower that if they were committing a genocide Gaza would have been a literal pile of rubble decades ago.

rozodru ,

lol "accident" sure bud.

Omniraptor , (edited )

Reminder that for the recent world central kitchen incident it was three separate precision drone strikes on three different cars spaced hundreds of meters apart. The cars were clearly marked and the route was coordinated in advance with the idf

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Central_Kitchen_aid_convoy_attack

taanegl ,
@taanegl@beehaw.org avatar

TL;Dr you're a dog whistling fool.

I challenge you to go live in Gaza and pretend you're Palestinian...

See how stupid that sounds? Though you're probably so delusional, you think you'd be fine, running around safe and protected areas within Israel screaming "WHERE'S THE APARTHEID?!?!!' Not only that, but your ignorance of geopolitics needs to be broken down as well.

"basically every Muslim country"... oh, you mean the middle east? That place that keeps getting invaded and overthrown? Why did we invade Afghanistan... again and again? Thank you the three stooges of western geopolitics , the US, France and Britain - the tag team of degenerates in fancy suits. Why was the democratically elected government of Iran overthrown? Oh right, the only thing worse than liberalism, SOCIALISM. Let's help install a a very socially conservative Ayatollah instead... also, let's destroy Iraq and install yesmen - y'know, for oil. Surely that's not a bad idea... it's like Yosemiti Sam shooting and being pushed back over, and over, and over again, as western society takes another geo-political black eye.

And you wonder why they go against western ideals? It's that problem where sovereignty doesn't mean shit the second you step over the border, and after DECADES of meddling and destroying economies, literally colonizing a place, the entire region becomes authoritarian nationalist, and you go "lol Muslims"?

Bro, go back to school. Stop being retarded with your smooth brain. Learn what the word "precedent" means in a social historical context. Unless, y'know, you ignore it for a specific purpose...

"Uh, but they are authoritarian nationalist based on religion, but not the authoritarian nationalism based on religion that I want". I bet there is no LGBTQ persecution in Israel by nationalist, orthodox Jews... right... right? Or here in the west? No? "No, it's the mozlems".

To conclude: either everyone is free, or no one is free. Any exception is some authoritarian mental gymnastics bullshit by smooth brained westerners who got skullfucked by instituonal parties - and then, and then having the balls to pretend they are fighting against authoritarianism...

Stfu, bro. You can shove your ignorance, fear mongering, dehumanization and dog whistling straight up your hypocritical, delusional ass. We got healing to do, and you are against that movement - mostly because you won't seek therapy instead of doing stupid hot takes online.

VaultBoyNewVegas ,

By that logic I should be happy that Saudi Arabia executes women as Saudi Arabians would likely think I'm sinful at best and deserve executing at worst. See how fucking stupid that is?

Aux ,

Oh look, genocide apologists are here!

northmaple1984 ,

Sorry, I actually have respect for the word genocide and only use it when appropriate.

What's happening in Gaza isn't it.

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