How to spot autism in High Masking Autistic Women - What’s behind the mask? -- Autism from the Inside ( youtu.be )

I think that this video has helped me develop some insight on how to spot high-masking autism, not just among women. I found a lot of the material covered in the video relatable even though I am male. Maybe that has something to do with our elevated rejection of established gender roles as a whole. Regardless, I like how rather than listing concrete signs, he gave a list of patterns that would be common to masking autistic women (I believe all genders, really) in a manner that could still be easily noticed. This also helped me understand that the cause of some autistic traits are not fundamental, but rather a result of masking. 🤯

Aside from the signs of masking autism, the ending hit me emotionally. He validates something that no one has really validated for me. I've been told my entire life that I was too much, not enough, or purposely trying to violate rules and norms out of some moral or character failing. It's like I wanted to be careless/offensive or a loser. However, when he covered how much effort we put into masking and that it takes a lot of energy to do, I felt a validation I don't remember ever experiencing. It's like someone said, "I believe you're doing your best."

He also elaborates on the impact of when we tell someone that we're autistic or have difficulties in certain areas and they invalidate it by saying that we're not autistic or that we function normally. He then posits that when we unmask, we need others to validate that experience. I think that statement was not only directed at us, but others that have autistic people in their lives. I plan on using that to guide who I continue to allow in my life. If I need to mask or am invalidated by someone when I unmask, then they're not a good fit for me, so I will interact with them less.

r3df0x ,

My sister was diagnosed with autism before transitioning but she hasn't "seemed autistic" since transitioning. I don't know if it was a misdiagnosis of gender dysphoria or if it's something that she really has. She is very fixated on trying to force other autistic people into passing so it makes sense that she would learn to hide it.

carbon_based , (edited )
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While I already knew the channel, I didn't see this particular one before.

What gets me most is actually the comments, and all the replies to the comments. I strongly suggest everyone to read at least the top ones and part of the hundreds of replies. Top one shown to me is this; may I cite respectfully, by @lisedenmark:

To me - autistic diagnosed 3 years ago at 54 - masking is not only about hiding my weaknesses; it's also about hiding my strengths because they are not always well received. Deep critical thinking, eternal curiosity and precision are skills often respected in theory - but in practice: not so much. This really complicates matters even more...

... And then, try to read the overall vibe in those conversations. What is apparent? -- Well first and obviously, they are almost all written by people who have been labeled or consider themselves "autistic" or ND. Second, a large part of it is (heartbreakingly) empathetic!


edit:
I have this hypothesis that masking their authenticity in order to fit in with ther respective social group is the normal way also in NT people. The difference being, that to them it comes naturally and effortlessly to wear a mask (read: self-protecting persona), while for NDs it is exhausting and may lead to a sense of self-denial. Consider also the difficulty with the perceived need of constant dishonesty/lying which is a part of camouflaging.
Any thoughts or questions?

frogfruit ,

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FollyDolly ,
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I'm not able to watch the video until I get home today, but I am a high functioning autistic women. I have been told SO MANY times I can't be autistic. Not that I don't act like I have autism, not that I don't seem autistic, that I can't be. It isn't until poeple see what work and socializing takes out of me that they truly understand I am autistic and how much WORK goes into appearing to be normal so I can keep my job.

FiniteBanjo ,

We've really gotten to the point where everything and everyone is autism in our culture and media. Being accepting is one thing, but this is exactly the sort of muddying waters that I hoped we could avoid. This will make it harder for proper care and help to be made available to the ones who need it the most.

SharkEatingBreakfast ,
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Damn, you're right. We wouldn't want to humanize people with autism, now would we?

FiniteBanjo ,

If it becomes undiagnosable because it's too vague to differentiate with or without, then treatment and accessibility options will become unobtainable. Leave the medical science to the doctors, kids. You don't need to be armchair diagnosing potential partners.

1984 ,
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I think you misunderstood what he is saying. Maybe read it again. Not everyone who says they are autistic is actually autistic. It's a diagnosis made by a doctor.

I think today it's more and more common that young people just try to decide what they are themselves, and gets surprised when doctors don't agree with them. It's like if I would decide that im color blind despite being able to see all colors just fine.

HogsTooth ,

I hate this. I haven't watched the video but the idea that someone will watch me to try and come to the same conclusion as a team of psychology graduates and doctorates is asinine. "But how are we supposed to give them allowances like being patient or kind?" Do that for everybody, don't try to diagnose someone that isn't open enough to tell you. I'm not a woman, but I am diagnosed and the premise of this video just makes me say no.

Infynis ,
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Just like when straights talk about having gaydar

DaGeek247 ,
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Except that the guy in the video has autism.

HogsTooth ,

Oh wow, the title of this video is really doing it a disservice. The title leads me to believe it's about how to spot autistic people who are trying to blend in. It's about masking. I agree with pretty much everything he says.

But damn, that title... Please do not try to unmask somebody.

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