intensely_human ,

Regardless of whom is elected, I’m going to keep listening to Bernie Sanders’s podcast, which I just discovered.

He’s just a few episodes in and is still learning, but it’s gonna be a really good podcast.

intensely_human ,

I’m going to keep going to work, brushing my teeth, keeping my apartment clean, working out, visiting my father on the weekends. (serious)

HurlingDurling ,
@HurlingDurling@lemmy.world avatar

Leaving the country and taking my kids in case plan 2025 starts happening.

dan1101 ,
@dan1101@lemm.ee avatar

If nobody paid any attention to him we could just passive aggressively get through the next 4 years.

bitwaba ,

Yeah. That worked last time

intensely_human ,

It did

match ,
@match@pawb.social avatar

For the survivors at least

archonet ,

I guess "get fucked", realistically speaking. I can't afford to leave on my own, my social life is empty of anyone else I can depend on, and I will almost certainly have a target on my back as a gay guy -- after they're done with trans people, we'll probably be next.

intensely_human ,

my social life is empty of anyone else I can depend on

This is a problem that needs fixing regardless of who’s elected.

Why don’t you have a support network?

archonet ,

The only family I have supporting me right now doesn't want to leave the country and can't provide meaningful support from afar, meaning I have to stay here. And staying during a second Trump term could be dangerous very quickly indeed if I'm to believe even half of the insane shit coming out of Project 2025.

other than my family, I just don't have much luck making connections with other people, I get along better with dogs. Unfortunately, dogs don't help pay rent. worse, if Trump wins another term, I would actually consider it dangerous to be openly gay. Not that I was getting dates anyways, but it means I probably won't try anymore if it's going to put me or my family at risk of harassment.

I'm just trying to enjoy every day I have with my family and try not to panic too hard, now, mostly through distracting myself with weed and videogames. I don't know how soon things will get bad, but I don't think we have the resources necessary to protect us from what's coming if he wins again. We're struggling as is -- I've lost my job recently, I had to go through cancer this past year, I'm depressed -- I don't also need to be shit-scared of how the election plays out. Even if he loses, so much is still so fucked with our country right now.

intensely_human ,

What games do you play?

archonet ,

helldivers 2, mostly, as of late

intensely_human ,

I smoke weed and play video games too. Let me know if you want to game sometime

dojan ,
@dojan@lemmy.world avatar

Why don’t you have a support network?

Where does one buy one of those, and how much do they cost? Asking for me. 😂

intensely_human ,

I think you buy them by keeping your own promises to people consistently, but I’m not sure since I haven’t done that yet.

dojan ,
@dojan@lemmy.world avatar

I think you likely also have to be decently sociable, and I find socialising with people in real to be both difficult and exhausting.

match ,
@match@pawb.social avatar

Mine cost me about $4k from an at-the-time reputable fursuit maker

dojan ,
@dojan@lemmy.world avatar

Ah that’s my problem. I’m spending too much on silicone dicks and not enough on the suit.

wolfeh ,
@wolfeh@lemmy.world avatar

Nah, I don't think you spent too much. We all need to take Chances once in a while.

dojan ,
@dojan@lemmy.world avatar

It does cost a lot though, gotta be careful not to Nix your wallet and Crash your economy.

wolfeh ,
@wolfeh@lemmy.world avatar

And this is why I love Lemmy. :D

dojan ,
@dojan@lemmy.world avatar

Aww, and Lemmy loves you! 💖

Also, just to toot my own horn, I felt pretty proud of that last one. I initially was like "how the heck do you casually drop Fenrir or David in a sentence" but... It's not nearly as elegant as Chance.

match ,
@match@pawb.social avatar

We are friends now, if you need support just let me know :3

dojan ,
@dojan@lemmy.world avatar

Aww, that's so sweet! I suppose this means that the way to make adult friends is to tongue-in-cheek talk about adult toys.

I did actually make a in-person friend doing exactly that once.

match ,
@match@pawb.social avatar

Depending on your sexual culture and relationship status, tongue-in-cheek can be a great way to make friends

wolfeh ,
@wolfeh@lemmy.world avatar

Hehehehe

dojan ,
@dojan@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah, I mean it's easier to do online since generally I move in fairly sex-positive circles. With my in-person friend it was because I misheard what she said. I thought she mentioned that she'd ordered dildos and whatnot from a particular book store and I was like "wait, they have dildos??" We'd only met like a couple hours earlier, but we've been good friends ever since. 😅

wolfeh ,
@wolfeh@lemmy.world avatar

Very well done. :D

dojan ,
@dojan@lemmy.world avatar

You too!

afraid_of_zombies ,

Get a lesbian beard now would be a decent plan to consider. Just someone you can stand enough to have as a roommate.

hardcoreufo ,

Move in with my friend in the Netherlands. He's wanted me to move even if Biden wins.

corsicanguppy ,

I say Go Anyway. The Netherlands is awesome.

match ,
@match@pawb.social avatar

What the fuck are you hanging around here for? Go live a better life

Postmortal_Pop ,

I'd like to think I'm not so backed into a corner that violence is the answer, so I'll do what I do every day of the week: keep my head down and wait.

If push comes to shove, and the lives of myself and my people are genuinely threatened, I won't retaliate in kind. I come from a long line of people that knew the benefits of blending in. I may not have the moxy to be a firebrand or to rally others to a cause, I may not have the heart to pull a trigger, but I have the means and skill to make triggers and the good sense to stay away from they places they get used.

It may not be the heroic sense of most Americans, but I was born into an America that sold us an action hero instead of providing us safety and I've never been one to buy rhetoric. I will not give my life for a cause, I will live to see it succeed.

bradorsomething ,

So I just barely make it into the classes that do well under trump, but I’m very worried as the social safety net is falling apart for most americans, and that republican rule only speeds that problem. I’m going to be trying to strengthen resources that help people trying to make it to self-sufficiency, but I can’t overcome the typical american attitude of “I’ve failed because I need help.” I guess the best plan for most people is to take care of those around them, be moral and resist bad policy by quiet lack of compliance, and try to help good people get out of bad parts of the country so they collapse all the sooner.

corsicanguppy ,

make it to self-sufficiency

If a traffic accident can bankrupt you, unfortunately you're still at-risk.

OlPatchy2Eyes ,

First I'll do whatever I can to be sure my communications and whereabouts aren't trackable, tell my friends how to contact me, and recommend they use the same channels anyway.

Then I'll find protests to go to and local campaigns to support however I see fit, and I'll do that right up to the point where I feel unsafe, at which point I don't know how I procede.

rageagainstmachines ,

This would essentially require you to not communicate outside of Signal.

OlPatchy2Eyes ,

So be it, I guess. If that turns out to be unrealistic I would just have to be careful about the content of the messages I send. Discord and WhatsApp have to go, obviously, but I think I could convince most of my friends and family to download Signal if push came to shove. Maybe I could look into hosting a small Matrix instance if I felt comfortable with whatever risks would come with that.

I don't think a second Trump administration is going to force me into complete anonymity, at least not overnight. I do want to commit to keeping my finger on the pulse so to speak, and staying a step ahead of whatever threats to my rights may be introduced. I have friends that would be much more threatened by Trump 2 than myself so if I can familiarize myself with these tools then I think I can help them feel safer.

MapleEngineer ,
@MapleEngineer@lemmy.world avatar

Candian here.

Do not come north.

We cannot house and feed you. Most of you will die of exposure the first winter you are here.

If you have thoughts of coming here with guns and taking our homes or food by force know that most of us outside the cities are armed, we're just not so scared that we constantly show off our guns and feel no need to go prepared for combat to buy donuts or groceries.

So, Mexico is your best bet, if they will take you. I bet you'll be glad that all the talk of a border wall was just neo-fascist virtue signaling.

Surp ,
@Surp@lemmy.world avatar

Wow you're an asshole

MapleEngineer ,
@MapleEngineer@lemmy.world avatar

I simply pointed out the reality of the situatuation. Canada can't take in millions of American refugees fleeing a christofascist authoritarian regime.

GnomeKat ,
@GnomeKat@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Your understanding of the effects of immigration is childish.

MapleEngineer , (edited )
@MapleEngineer@lemmy.world avatar

Ok. Explain to me how a country of 40 million people that doesn't have sufficient housing for the people who are here now can house millions of political refugees from the US before winter hits and they all freeze to death?

Keep in mind we're not talking about gradual immigration. We're talking a wave of potentially millions of refugees fleeing a christofascist dictatorship or civil war.

Your insults are very childish. Do better.

afraid_of_zombies ,

Just make Newfoundland pay for it, they pay for everything else.

MapleEngineer ,
@MapleEngineer@lemmy.world avatar

Newfoundland gets over $200 million in annual equalization payments.

afraid_of_zombies ,

The New-fees I have worked with have a different assessment of the situation

Bytemeister ,

Yeah. Also, clearly doesn't understand what is going on (TBF, I don't know shit about Canadian politics either), but the stupid violent people with guns will be overjoyed if trump is the president.

MapleEngineer ,
@MapleEngineer@lemmy.world avatar

Just as the students in Iran were overjoyed when the shah fell right up until the reality of living under a theocratic dictatorship sunk in.

JustZ ,
@JustZ@lemmy.world avatar

True story!

ChillPenguin ,

But I'm Minnesotan. I can blend in really well.

MapleEngineer ,
@MapleEngineer@lemmy.world avatar

You're well north of the south most point in Canada. You're practically Canadian. We just don't have enough housing up here to take in a bunch of refugees. If Americans end up in tent city refugee camps they will die in winter. We could put a few tens of thousands in school gymnasiums and community centers but it would turn into a humanitarian disaster.

JustZ ,
@JustZ@lemmy.world avatar

Nah bud, we're going to cut down all your trees and build shacks. All those lakes surrounded by trees, going to put up condos.

JustZ ,
@JustZ@lemmy.world avatar

Bud not only are we coming north, but we're going to turn your subarctic tundra into orange groves.

Unlearned9545 ,

Move to New Zealand. TBF, I'll probably move there if doesn't will as well.

skeezix ,

Welcome mate.

boatsnhos931 ,

Find new loopholes to exploit. Adapt and overcome. Possibly buy some some snacks.

vynlwombat ,

Let's talk about these snacks

intensely_human ,

Fruit by the Meter?

vynlwombat ,

Nice try non-american

Case ,

Step one: Buy a few firearms, for different scenarios (which should be easier under Trump sigh)

Step two: Go to work, home, and limit unnecessary errands, order for delivery more.

Step three: Practice marksmanship with various firearms. I have a country, but sane, friend of the family with a shooting range on her land.

Step four: Hunker down in my deep red state, because I hold non-christian belief's and I won't recant them on pain of death. Not because my beliefs "protect" me, but because as an American, I believe in freedom of religion and I'll die a proud American before I die as a Christian, my belief's don't matter compared to that. The protection of those belief's does.

PsychedSy ,

Buy the firearms now. Regardless of the election results, you may need them.

ouRKaoS ,

Also ammunition. If shit really it's the fan it's a very tradable resource.

PsychedSy ,

Works both ways. Buy firearms in common calibers so you can stock up easily as well.

ouRKaoS ,

Most common for those that don't know: 9mm & .40 for handgun, 5.56/.223 for rifle, 12ga shotgun. (These are the calibers used by police & military in case you need to 'borrow' ammo in an emergency)

7.62 & .308 are probably next up in rifle, then .380 for handgun..22LR is another good one to hoard.

afraid_of_zombies ,

If you have ammo you don't need to trade with anyone.

corsicanguppy ,

belief’s

Why the apostrophe?

intensely_human ,

Every thing is some other thing’s thing

Boiglenoight ,

Try to avoid being murdered by my neighbors.

TheReturnOfPEB ,

Living in a cop neighborhood is fun, no ?

Boiglenoight ,

Living in a neighborhood with open Trump supporters feels like sitting on a ticking time bomb.

Mastengwe ,

Probably enjoy the peace and quiet on social media when all the right- wing… I mean- “far left” propagandists disappear after succeeding in getting their beloved fascist elected.

It happens every four years. It’ll happen this year as well.

The irony of YOU asking this probably isn’t lost on anyone I’d assume.

return2ozma OP ,
@return2ozma@lemmy.world avatar

I don’t hate the Democrats because I’m on the right. I hate the Democrats because THEY are on the right.

Mastengwe ,

Hilarious take. I’ll bet you hate all those Christian satanists as well.

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