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higgsboson , in Those with executive function issues and who take atomoxetine, did/do you go to therapy or do any meditation technique? Did/do you notice ED improvements with that combination?

You'll have to try it and see if it works for you. It hasn't been studied as much, but there is evidence some people find better success with a low dose of a stimulant (or sometimes welbutrin) along with the atomoxitine versus either one by itself.

Technus , in Just paid my ADHD tax

One time I went basically the whole year planning to go to a big music festival in town with a friend, just to realize literally the fucking night before that I'd never actually bought my ticket (I was checking that I had everything ready to go for the next day). I then had to frantically go to grab one off StubHub for a several hundred-percent markup at like 3AM.

Then I get a call waking me up at 7 AM, from StubHub, saying that the ticket they sold me turned out to be invalid but that they'd get me another free of charge. Which was great and all but then I was completely unable to get back to sleep and had to go the whole day running on just 4 hours of shuteye.

Tangent5280 , in Just paid my ADHD tax

I know what that feels like. I regularly pay upto 2-4x for plane tickets, because I always put them to the last second.

Sending much love your way friend, hope your days get easier.

bl4ckblooc ,

Plane tickets are so fucked right now it doesn’t even matter. I was looking at tickets to go to India next January for my wedding, and they are $2000-$3000 for a shitty 14 hour flight on a plane where nothing works. I say two to three thousand, as they went up that much within 15 minutes of me looking at different dates.

clockwork_octopus ,

You probably already know this, but if you’re watching ticket prices, try to check from a different phone or laptop each time. As in, check with your phone one day, your computer the next week, and while you’re at work the week after. Something about ISP tracking or something means that prices can go up if the site knows you’re watching, but if you’re looking from a different location each time, to the website you look like a different person, so the price won’t inflate as quickly.

stevo , in Task breakup
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i treat tasks as a quest. understanding that each quest ends with a new obstacle. this helps me. i still struggle with starting a task/quest. once i get going i can keep conquering quests/tasks.

xmunk , in Staying Focused While Waiting
  1. As a software developer I've worked to optimize our tooling to minimize this kind of waiting.

  2. Be transparent about having ADHD and just task switch, keep a rotation of active projects and if one gets blocked just go to the next one.

nick , in my insurance stopped covering name brand vyvanse

Oh it gets even worse. Past couple months I’ve gotten generic vyvanse, and it just straight up doesn’t work at all. Talked to my doctor, he looked at it, and it’s from “sun pharma” in India. It’s either counterfeit or missing ingredients because he said over the last month about 20 other patients said the same thing about the same exact pills.

I’m extremely lucky that my insurance covers name brand meds, so he wrote me a “dispense as written” script and I got legit vyvanse now and it actually works.

Point is even if you could get generic vyvanse, it might be fake ass dogshit that doesn’t do jack.

breadsmasher , in my insurance stopped covering name brand vyvanse
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I pay £10 a month regardless of what medication it is. And will never have the concern some medication is “no longer covered”

tormeh ,

That's great, but of course it only applies to medication covered by the NHS. Otherwise it's not prescribed.

Zorsith , in Is this thought about school too radical?
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Most common thing any ADHD kid has ever heard from teacher parent meetings:

"_____ is so smart, they just need to ApPlY tHeMsElVeS"

TipRing ,

"He knows the material, he just doesn't do the work."

dylanmorgan ,

Do you also hate the word “potential?”

Zorsith ,
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Mmhmm. As well as "focus" and "concentrate".

OwlYaYeet ,

What about the phrase "just get a planner?"

Tolookah ,

This is a week old comment, but I was just triggered by the planner, and I needed to say so.

Mrderisant ,

Yeah I was told the same thing. Eventually I was told I was Useless because I couldn't complete tasks. Not lazy, Useless. I do not know why a 7th grade teacher thought that was ok.
I now will never send my kids to a catholic school

Excrubulent , in Is this thought about school too radical?
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If you want a genuinely radical take on education, Noam Chomsky says this in Understanding Power:

Well, that's pretty much what the schools are like, I think: they reward discipline and obedience, and they punish independence of mind. If you happen to be a little innovative, or maybe you forgot to come to school one day because you were reading a book or something, that's a tragedy, that's a crime―because you're not supposed to think, you're supposed to obey, and just proceed through the material in whatever way they require.

And in fact, most of the people who make it through the education system and get into the elite universities are able to do it because they've been willing to obey a lot of stupid orders for years and years―that's the way I did it, for example. Like, you're told by some stupid teacher, "Do this," which you know makes no sense whatsoever, but you do it, and if you do it you get to the next rung, and then you obey the next order, and finally you work your way through and they give you your letters: an awful lot of education is like that, from the very beginning. Some people go along with it because they figure, "Okay, I'll do any stupid thing that asshole says because I want to get ahead"; others do it because they've just internalized the values―but after a while, those two things tend to get sort of blurred. But you do it, or else you're out: you ask too many questions and you're going to get in trouble.

Now, there are also people who don't go along-and they're called "behavior problems," or "unmotivated," or things like that. Well, you don't want to be too glib about it―there are children with behavior problems but a lot of them are just independent-minded, or don't like to conform, or just want to go their own way. And they get into trouble right from the very beginning, and are typically weeded out. I mean, I've taught young kids too, and the fact is there are always some who just don't take your word for it. And the very unfortunate tendency is to try to beat them down, because they're a pain in the neck. But what they ought to be is encouraged. Yeah: why take my word for it? Who the heck am I? Figure it out for yourself. That's what real education would be about, in fact.

https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/8940492-well-that-s-pretty-much-what-the-schools-are-like-i

Rhynoplaz , in Is this thought about school too radical?

I was definitely kid B. Little assignments, I wouldn't remember and big assignments were too intimidating to start until the very last minute.

BruceTwarzen ,

I remember in 8th grade we got our first really serious big assignment. My teacher specifically looked at me and said: you have 8 weeks to do this, you'll need 8 weeks to do this, this isn't one of these things where you can start a week before it's due and pass.
All i heard was that i can pass wjen i start 2 weeks before.
I started on the friday before, so i still had 3 good days. But saturday, my friend wasn't home from whom i needed the book from to do my assignment, so i still had the whole sunday. I got an A and learned that school is a scam

thezeesystem , in Is this thought about school too radical?

That's pretty much America after school too. If you are not a high achiever, your seen as not worth it and "lazy". Also Amerikkkas school system is what I believe to weed out people who don't conform to society, and make kids into better servants for capatilism. Imo of course.

MataVatnik , in Is this thought about school too radical?
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I'm pretty sure I have some post traumatic stress disorder from school too. No, it's not even that radical what you think. I personally think we need to dismantle schools all together, having kids sit at desks for more than 5 hours a day, 5 days a week for 12 years is straight up a form of psychological and physical abuse.

gimpchrist ,
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Okay well they thought that staying home and learning on the internet at their own self-directed pace was also fucking abuse and now nobody knows anything anymore , so what the fuck do we just not educate children?

feedmecontent OP ,

I think that sort of learning was rushed through during the pandemic and has never been given a real shot.

feedmecontent OP ,

Sorry just to clarify, I wasn't involved in education at that time, but given that the only solution that's ever worked for my task management (asynchronous, self directed) was rushed through during a life or death emergency, then that example used to prove it can't happen is pretty rough for potential future me like people out there.

gimpchrist ,
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I don't really know what you're saying.
I used to think as a child that learning online would just fix all my problems... I was pissed when the pandemic started and all these children could just go to school at home.. but then I thought about it... I have every ability in the world right now to start my own business and to work at my own self-directed pace to make my own kind of money on free will alone... nobody tells me what to do or how to do it..... do you know what I do with all of my free time? Absolutely fucking nothing I lay in bed all day because I don't have to do anything.

As much as I hated it, being forced to do things like go to school or brush my teeth or get out of my bed in the morning or clean my room or eat food everyday.. being forced to do those things actually made me a small bit better as a fucking human being.. now that it's all self-directed and free, I do nothing.. and I was kid B all day all the way.

I have learned over my years that sometimes what we want isn't what's good for us in the long run. And sometimes you just got to suck it the fuck up, join the class, stop playing with bugs or reading books or whatever the fuck we both were doing to distract ourselves from terrible classes and awful teachers and shitty kids and abusive parents....... and just do the fucking assignment. Get something done for once in our lives.

WatTyler , in Anxiety and depression on Vyvanse
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Elvanse (Vyvanse) has definitely made me more tense but it's always made me less anxious and depressed because of how it's improved my executive dysfunction.

Starayo , in Anxiety and depression on Vyvanse
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I don't have similar symptoms but medication effects can really vary between people. It's best to talk to your medical provider to try other options or dosages.

For me, vyvanse really only gives me reduced appetite and slightly increased heart rate, though at higher doses it keeps me up at night no matter when I took it. Lower dose fixed that while remaining effective.

Gormadt , in Anxiety and depression on Vyvanse
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Perhaps you should ask your doctor to try a different medication, sometimes some meds just don't work for you in some way or another.

When I was trying to find something for my anxiety back in the day (in my early 20s) I tried quite a few things that either didn't work like I wanted or made it so much worse. To the extent I gave up on trying to find things for it for years.

Now I just take my ADHD meds (Straterra) and since I've started it (about a year ago) I haven't had any issues with my anxiety (went for a few panic attacks a month to none) so I'm not even trying anything for the anxiety.

notthoughtsjustcrabrave OP ,

I didn't have much luck with straterra. Didn't feel much of a difference on it. I keep procrastinating getting in touch with my Dr, dunno why. I should probably switch medications, but I was hoping it was just my body adapting to it or something. Might ask to try Ritalin next. Do you have any experience with that?

LoKout ,

Tell your doctor exactly what you are saying here. There are two general strains of ADHD meds, and even amongst those two the variants tend to have certain side effects.

For me, I had very similar side effects from vyvanse. It did make me very conscious and able to live totally in the moment, which was wonderful. However, it also gave me bad anxiety. For some time my Psych tried to counter that with anti-anxiety meds, but it did not work, so I was switched to Concerta. Concerta and Ritalin are from the same strain, and if Vyvanse is not agreeing with you, it may be a great reason to switch.

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