@MuppetRat@actuallyautistic For me, things would be better if I didn't need to worry about productivity and how to survive ... but I don't think it's just society.
For me to be able to live my best life I need a lot of help--people who can help me clean and to do important phone calls on time, as well has helping me compensate for my lack of executive function.
@melindrea I am so glad that you have people helping you. I only recently got help in my daily life, and it makes such a huge difference! I wish I had had my diagnosis early in my life, I might have even stayed in my original job, making enough money to hire personal assistance. Once you are in low income, it's hard to get all needs covered.
@MuppetRat@actuallyautistic in france since 2005 this is the definition of disabled in the law-> (quickly translated by me) "A disability is any limitation of activity one may suffer into society as a result of physical, sensory or mental impairments etc"(the etc is added by me)
I just totally agree with @gaysis
Even in the kindest society, if you're blind, you will still miss something if your whole species is able to see, bc even if you can be fully autonomous in every aspect of your life, you'll be always out from everyone else's visual experience.
Of course, if you add to this the productivist society layer, all can turn into hell.
Maybe psy/neurodifferences are more linked to social context but I don't think only limited to it. @MuppetRat
@gaysis
My point is not to discuss @MuppetRat point of view as someone's personnal experience.
But I think promoting a social-only-based model of disability is at risk to completely silence the experiences of many disabled people and give the illusion that in a perfect society, no one would be disabled.
In fact, disability exists as long as someone isn't performing in the normal limits of their species. Society changes the burden, not the disability itself.
@Dremmwel Yes I totally agree with that. In a way, the notion that a perfect society would know no disability, is ableist in itself.
The issue DOES also apply to autism, because autism has aspects other than social, e.g. it can impair speech, mental capacity, executive function, and sensitivities. All of those, if in a certain form, are potential disabilities. It is possible that OP doesn't experience any of these forms of autism, which could be seen as a privilege (although the social aspects still make it hard enough in the current hostile society).
@MuppetRat in my case it's both (executive dysfunction IS a disability, and I sometimes feel that posts like this try to make this invisible, although I assume that wasn't your intention at all)
Not claiming I know @MuppetRat's thoughts, but I believe the message here is just that being disabled wouldn't be a thing if we weren't in a capitalist society.
When your value as a person is not tied to whether you can produce marketable goods or services, the concept of abled/disabled loses its meaning.
@axnxcamr@MuppetRat I wouldn't fully agree to that. Even in a different society, I would still be pissed that I can't do as much as I would like to. Scientifically, the social model of disabilty is not really being used anymore, we now use the mixed model because we acknowledge that both factors, society/access as well as physical/disability play a role.
@axnxcamr@MuppetRat (but I also know that many leftist/anti-capitalist people don't like to hear the fact that the abolition of capitalism wouldn't solve all existing problems or sufferings)
@axnxcamr@gaysis@MuppetRat sorry, had to chip in, wait till you see for example communist society dealing with disabled, amputees and any other “others” lol.
@lexx3000 as I've heard, a communist society could very well deal with physical disabilities better than a capitalist one, but yeah that's a whole big topic I'm not really motivated to delve into with strangers online XD