New York Bill Would Require a Criminal Background Check to Buy a 3D Printer ( gizmodo.com )

I understand the intent, but feel that there are so many other loopholes that put much worse weapons on the street than a printer. Besides, my prints can barely sustain normal use, much less a bullet being fired from them. I would think that this is more of a risk to the person holding the gun than who it's pointing at.

Steamymoomilk ,
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Shhhh dont tell new york that anybody can by a lathe or a mill.
Or forbid A CNC

Requiring a backround check for a 3d printer is idiotic at best. Whats next a flat bastard file?
You could use it to form metal to make weapons!
Not to deburr or make somthing harmless.

THINK OF THE CHILDREN

Lettuceeatlettuce ,
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Anything to regulate and restrict the people/end users but not address any real problems in society.

Go after the gun companies, gun lobbies, NRA? No, never. Address housing, income, and educational inequality? That sounds complicated, tough, and expensive.

This has similar vibes to shaming/regulating people for using too much water in their showers and for washing their cars, but when a multi-billion dollar oil company spills millions of gallons of crude into the sea causing years of environmental damage due to negligence, fine them a few million dollars and tell them they've been very naughty...

So tired of politicians being in the pocket of Capitalist scumbags.

deania ,

By that logic, they should ban water pipes to stop people from making water pipe shotguns

seathru ,
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Must pass a background check before entering Home Depot.

Steamymoomilk ,
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You mean Crime depot

histic ,

I personally have a 3d printed gun that I've put a few hundred rounds though and is still holding up just fine 3d printing is plenty strong enough

Skanky ,

Oh really? Do you mind telling us how the barrel was 3D printed?

BuboScandiacus ,
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You can make a gun with anything

nyan ,

Well, not anything (if you actually think that's possible, then I have a challenge for you: make a functioning gun out of cheese), but an average hardware store should have everything you need to produce something capable of firing a shot.

Cethin ,

Usually part of 3D printed guns aren't 3d printed. I'd bet you could make a one-time-use gun out of cheese, but the firing pin and springs would probably have to be made of something else to use a traditional round.

If you go with a gunpowder charge ignited with a flame, it'd be much easier. I'm sure there's even a cheese that could sustain a flame to ignite it with too. You could even make a cheese bullet.

PyroNeurosis ,
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The future of warfare: dairy.

Steamymoomilk ,
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The milk wars Patent pending

PersnickityPenguin ,

Fine, hard mode challenge: tissue paper!

BuboScandiacus ,
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Give me water, corn starch and a hydrolic press

Flaky_Fish69 ,
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“Three-dimensionally printed firearms, a type of untraceable ghost gun, can be built by anyone using a $150 three-dimensional printer,” Rajkumar wrote in a memorandum explaining the bill. “This bill will require a background check so that three-dimensional printed firearms do not get in the wrong hands.”

.... No way an ender 3 is going to produce something that doesn't blow up in your hand.

so. i suggest people get that 150 dollar lol-printer. Should take care of itself.

AlDente ,

If you think people aren't printing firearms with an Ender 3, you are a fool.

Flaky_Fish69 ,
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an Ender 3's print quality is too low to reliably handle any of the critical components, even for one or two uses. something like the defcad AR lower receiver (which is for some odd reason designated as "the firearm" under ATF regulations...) can absolutely be printed, but not reliably by an ender 3- at least not a stock ender 3. (the defcad team was using resin printers for the dimensional accuracy.)

in any case, you can go to any big box hardware store, drop around 30 bucks in plumbing parts and some quality time with a dremel will produce a fully automatic firearm. should we now regulate plumbing hardware?

trafficnab ,

Someone assassinated the former Japanese PM with a block of wood, two small pieces of pipe, and some simple electronics, and that was extremely advanced for an amateur hand crafted firearm

Spend enough time in the sticks as a teenager and I guarantee a pipe shotgun will basically materialize out of thin air at some point

BigDanishGuy ,

In other news: virtue signaling politicians are considering banning [scary items that their core voters know nothing about] in order to appear tough on crime, while avoiding doing the logical things experts recommend, because that would look bad in the eyes of the voters. Instead the only consequence is extending the stigma related to excons resulting in greater recidivism

Googling 3d printed gun homicide returns a story from Rhode Island in 2020 (where the police can't figure out if the gun was actually printed), an attempted murder in Reykjavík in 2022, and this story from 2022 that claims a total of 44 arrests were made related to 3d printed guns... world wide https://3dprint.com/291684/3d-printed-gun-arrests-tripled-in-less-than-two-years-3dprint-com-investigates/amp/

In contrast there were 48117 firearms related deaths in the US during the same period.

Maybe statistics and proportions should be a core part of math from an early age?

krolden ,
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Will they require a background check for CNC machines and lathes as well?

BigDanishGuy ,

Routers and lathes, both CNC and manual ... and calipers! The name sounds like something to do with bullets and they look like tiny machine guns.

massacre , (edited )

Pretty soon they would have to ban backyard foundries, aluminum cans, molding sand, metal files, and drill bits!

Steamymoomilk ,
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Why them flat bastards!

(A flatbastard is a common file type)

HurlingDurling ,

Hey congress, so uhhh... you can 3d print a 3d printer

FuglyDuck ,
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Or just buy parts. What are they gonna do? Regulate stepper motors and heater cartridges, and generic microcontrollers?

The cat is already out the bag.

Stephen304 ,

That's hilarious, assuming they only regulate prebuilts or full kits, all you'd need to do is something like add everything from a voron parts list to your cart to get around it. I wonder if sellers would also be able to offer partial kits to bypass it too (like offering a frame kit, x axis kit, extruder kit, etc and you just add all to cart)

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