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Rognaut , to Technology in Linus Tech Tips (LTT) release investigation results on former accusations

It's unbelievable how much hate for LTT there is on this platform. I like them. No one is perfect. This investigation from a third party is a good thing and the findings are good as well. The statement about defamation, I feel, is warranted because the ex-employee made a ton of very damning claims and really hurt their image. The Fediverse is a great example of this damage.

The hate from this community towards LTT is extreme and unfounded.

SkaveRat ,

The defamation statement was maybe a bit much, but also warranted. People need to know that just throwing accusations out there that are just plainly not true is actually legally problematic.

I also don't get why people feel this is "threatening people who want to speak up in the future".

If your "speaking up" has merit, it's not defarmation. Plain and simple.

Companies make mistakes (and aparently some were made in this case, and dealt with).

But I find it concerning that people also just blindly trust any and all claims that individuals make about these kind of situations. Believe that they are telling the truth, but also verify that this is actually true. The latter part is important. Blind trust is as damaging as not doing anything at all about a proble, There are people out there who get laid off for legitimate reasons, and try to retaliate for that. Even by claiming BS reasons.

dustyData ,

I wish you never have to find yourself facing a corporation. The power imbalance is so massive that you feel like an ant, it's the most disempowering experience anyone could face in legal terms. LTT could destroy people's lives and it would be decades if ever, for them to ever have to face consequences.

This is why I always default to believing the individual over the corporation. The corporation has no soul, no heart, no conscience and no remorse. Imagine being a person who wants to speak up about something else you know for certain happened, but a million dollar law firm just put in writing that such kind of thing didn't happen. You have no recourse or power, it's your word against a literal army of lawyers. Regardless of whether the investigation was good or not. The result still has a silencing effect.

fuckwit_mcbumcrumble ,

The hate from this community towards LTT is extreme and unfounded.

Are you just going to ignore Linus and the companies abhorrent response to the situation? That alone should make anyone lose any respect they had for them.

Aphelion ,

Yeah, same for me. Linus' response was so stereotypicaly defensive, dismissive and shitty, I lost all trust. Couple that with GN's fact checking of LMGs sloppyness, and I was done ever watching their channel.

glimse ,

I'm glad this report showed their innocence but I unsubscribed after the GN/Billet Labs thing.

I might check them out again later but that situation made me kind of uncomfortable with supporting them

SkaveRat ,

fwiw, they changed their process and output amount a lot after that

glimse ,

I saw that which is why I'm willing to give them another chance. I really don't think Linus is a scummy guy or anything, they just grew too fast without thinking.

I haven't had a strong desire to get back into the channel but if a video pops up on my feed again, I might resub.

SkaveRat ,

personally, I think they handled the situation the best way the could.

Gamers Nexus had genuine good criticism, and they took it, took a moment to pause and implemented fixes.

Mistakes happen. And they learned from them

glimse ,

I agree but it did shake my confidence enough to make me back off. I watched LTT mostly for entertainment (GN for news and reviews) and I've since "filled that spot" so it'll probably only make its way back into my watch list once a different thing falls off.

xkforce ,

According to who?

Tbh I don't trust anyone that reacted the way Linus did in response to GN's investigation or that only changes things once they get called out on it publically.

Zedstrian , to Technology in Linus Tech Tips (LTT) release investigation results on former accusations

As with corporate mediators though, wouldn't such investigation companies have a financial incentive to favor their clients, so as to improve the odds of being rehired?

IrateAnteater ,

Yes and no. The reason companies are hiring them is for the image of impartiality they bring. If your firm gets a reputation for just always siding with the company, regardless of what actually happened, that image gets destroyed.

Plus, I'm willing to bet that there's not a whole lot of recurring business from individual companies for this type of service. That would kind of defeat the purpose of being the "neutral third party".

Pudutr0n ,
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As someone who used to work in a job that involved giving companies reports they paid for, I gotta say while large auditing firms will likely defend their reputation before the company that hired them, mid and small companies will just follow the paycheck.
Doesn't look that big to me.

lemming741 ,

Haven't you seen The Big Short?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vE8E7_PNm98

miss_brainfarts , to Android in To my fellow Android custom ROM enthusiasts, I highly advise you uninstall and stop supporting @projectelixiros

I've never even heard of it. Anyway, use Graphene if you have a Pixel, and ideally DivestOS if you don't

limerod , to Android in To my fellow Android custom ROM enthusiasts, I highly advise you uninstall and stop supporting @projectelixiros

Interesting, it appears they archived the github repos on may 19th after that tweet.
https://reddthat.com/pictrs/image/8e083494-3cbf-4753-89ee-a8bd8be07287.jpeg

More ironic about them wiping your data considering they credit other ROMs! https://reddthat.com/pictrs/image/b4fcd2fc-e94f-49f5-b4c9-6fe9eaac10d8.jpeg

Welp_im_damned OP ,
sparky , to Android in To my fellow Android custom ROM enthusiasts, I highly advise you uninstall and stop supporting @projectelixiros
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I’m a iOS developer just lurking here but, are paid features in custom ROMs common? Since they’re all downstream of AOSP, wouldn’t it be possible to bypass anything like that fairly easily by just commenting out the paywalls and building the ROM yourself?

Welp_im_damned OP ,

No not really. Maybe the early access is paywalled. But that's usually it.

2kool4idkwhat , (edited ) to Android in To my fellow Android custom ROM enthusiasts, I highly advise you uninstall and stop supporting @projectelixiros
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From the ROM website's footer:

A custom ROM based on AOSP, which offers a minimal UI enhancement & close to stock pixel Android ROM with great "Performance", "Security" and "Stability".

I see now why they "quoted" stability :P

Oh, and just using ADB is enough to trigger the code to wipe the data. But that's fine according to the developer because "its just a format data, not like your phone gets destroyed"

What makes this even funnier is that on their website they say that the ROM is great and all (with very poor grammar and odd phrasing), but they don't say what they actually changed. The closest thing I could find was their screenshot gallery where they show some new icons and AI-generated wallpapers

Also corporate memphis art everywhere because why not lol

I feel sorry for anyone who was using this ROM, but this whole thing is hilarious

Anticorp ,

& close to stock pixel Android ROM

Then why not just use the Pixel Android ROM?

2kool4idkwhat ,
@2kool4idkwhat@lemdro.id avatar

Idk, I didn't design their website ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

kilgore_trout ,
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Elixir supported a vast amount of devices.

cole ,
@cole@lemdro.id avatar

holy shit their site has a lot of ads

skuzz ,

Sounds like they may have set it up to wipe for security paranoia, and maybe not to be jerks?

Todgerdickinson ,

Who is this for really though? Any person installing roms is clued in and knows what they want. This “stable” author’s custom-rom credentials should be drop kicked into the sun.

Bezier , to Android in To my fellow Android custom ROM enthusiasts, I highly advise you uninstall and stop supporting @projectelixiros
@Bezier@suppo.fi avatar

It's hard to trust software that places this little trust on me.

possiblylinux127 , to Android in To my fellow Android custom ROM enthusiasts, I highly advise you uninstall and stop supporting @projectelixiros
@possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip avatar

I'm pretty sure no one uses this so it doesn't matter. However, I'll keep it in mind.

kilgore_trout ,
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Thousands fo people used it

possiblylinux127 ,
@possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip avatar

*of

Really? I've never heard of it so I'm glad I'm not affected.

kilgore_trout ,
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ElixirOS UI was sleek and attractive. I also considered to switch my Pixel 4a from LineageOS.

possiblylinux127 ,
@possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip avatar

Maybe someone will fork it

univers3man , to Android in To my fellow Android custom ROM enthusiasts, I highly advise you uninstall and stop supporting @projectelixiros

What the actual fuck. This is unacceptable from any dev.

casmael , to Android in To my fellow Android custom ROM enthusiasts, I highly advise you uninstall and stop supporting @projectelixiros

Yo wtf

stevedidwhat_infosec , to Android in To my fellow Android custom ROM enthusiasts, I highly advise you uninstall and stop supporting @projectelixiros

Nice. So trying to look at this rom under the hood causes a device wipe? Am I understanding that right?

Sounds like fucking malware/spyware if you ask me.

possiblylinux127 ,
@possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip avatar

It is

Anticorp ,

Ransomware

user224 , to Android in To my fellow Android custom ROM enthusiasts, I highly advise you uninstall and stop supporting @projectelixiros
@user224@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

So, it seems it gets triggered by just using ADB shell???

https://x.com/TheNotesOfJosh/status/1791738816362848517

Redjard ,
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I cannot open that, it shows a login page. Could you post a screenshot of what this is supposed to contain?

user224 ,
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Redjard ,
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thx and wtf.
How can people even use android without adb shell?

user224 ,
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What do you use ADB for?

Since adb backup has been deprecated, I don't see much use for it. Only for recent Android versions which disallow installation of apps targeting low API, as that can be bypassed using ADB.
Or maybe for apps like scrcpy.

Redjard ,
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I guess adb backup was before my time. I did use adb to transfer my apps when I last restored a twrp backup. In perhaps a similar manner to what that did, going by the name. But I did use adb root for that.

Otherwise, I use it to set a lot of otherwise inaccessible settings, like making the back gesture a lot thinner than intended because my touchscreen can handle it, or forcing 120Hz everywhere. I can also set my dpi there without anoying apps.

And ofc I use it to uninstall system apps I don't need.

After initial setup I do all of that in a root bash session in termux admittedly, but if I hadn't rooted my device I would still want to do most of that using an adb shell, as most of it doesn't require root (besides maybe the restoring backups part).

I also use shell environment to semi-automatically transfer media files for certain processes, though I'll probably move that over to syncrhing at some point.

The main remaining advantage is the ability to automate things on my phone from my pc, I don't see a lot of those as replacable unless my rom installs kde connect as a system app and they add an immense amount of functionality

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