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slurpinderpin , to Technology in ‘My whole library is wiped out’: what it means to own movies and TV in the age of streaming services

If buying isn’t owning, then pirating isn’t stealing.

Fair winds and following seas to you fellow sailors, arrrrr

Dariusmiles2123 ,

I can understand piracy when they take away something you’ve already bought, but I’d not want to do it for something I haven’t bought yet.

I wanna be able to support people creating what I like.

slurpinderpin ,

I actually probably provide more support for the things I like because I pirate. Look at it this way - if I had to subscribe to a million services, I just wouldn’t watch a lot of things (because I don’t like spending money month over month for services). Now, I download what I want to watch, and if it’s good I go and tell my friends and family (who aren’t pirates) how good it is and they go and watch it, bringing more eyeballs to their show/movie than they would’ve had otherwise. Pirating isn’t stealing or taking away from creatives imo

Dariusmiles2123 ,

I can’t agree, but I can agree to disagree with you.

For me as long as you’re not paying for some form of art, you’re not supporting the artist, so you’re stealing.

But I’d be the first one to download a torrent if something I paid for kind of disappeared like this.

slurpinderpin ,

Haha agree to disagree. I'm paying them through eXpOsuRe (jk)

Yeah I don't feel an ounce of remorse about it, but if I did I probably wouldn't do it!

EngineerGaming ,
@EngineerGaming@feddit.nl avatar

I have bought some games after pirating them - because I loved them. Still kept the pirated copies for the sake of ownership though.

BlueMagma ,

Though I agree about 'financial support for content creator' I think our model of copyright doesn't work.

I'd love your opinion

Should a content creator keep making money forever once something is produced ? Would you prefer to buy rather than pirate a movie that was made 100 years ago ? Let's say you never bought any Charlie Chaplin movie, would you buy it if you wanted to watch it ?

The reason I ask is because I'm still unclear myself about what is morally right on this topic. I tend to pirate a lot nowadays because I don't know how to support content creators without filling the pockets of intermediary leeches

sugar_in_your_tea ,

My personal rule is that I'll buy it as long as the original creators are profiting from new sales. So I'm happy to buy Switch games, but I'm probably not going to buy N64 games because they're not available from the original devs.

I may buy even if that's not the case if buying is a better experience than getting it some other way.

If DRM-free digital copies existed for movies, I'd buy them. But they don't, so I buy physical media and rip it to my NAS.

Shurimal ,

Especially with movies, the people who made the thing are already paid by the time it is released. As little as possible. VFX houses are often fucked royally and don't even break even. Even big-name actors are usally screwed over by Hollywood accounting.

By paying you only feed the leeches who then use their resources to fuck over everyone else.

LinusSexTips ,

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/36962ab0-b5df-49ad-9f58-cbc1fa0808dd.png

From my nixos config.

Corps are fucked, I've got no issues pirating content. If I want to support someone I'll pay up but the majority of content is background filler for me.

Why would I want to sub to Amazon just to watch Jeremy Clarkson's new show, where he was paid $200m to support him? It baffles the mind the volume of cash that's thrown around in that world.

I'd much rather spend my money down the pub on a Sunday, which is owned by locals, has local beers on tap with a local solo musician jamming out the front.

For me, there's much more value in an experience with the quirks of it being live, a quick witted bartender, a great cover, an old bloke retelling stories he's told 100 times before, a forgotten lyric or even a snapped string on a guitar.

Or I'm starting to show my age 😎

slurpinderpin ,

Nah man you got the right mindset, I'm right there with you. Fill'em full'ah day light! Arrrrr

spez_ ,

What's the config?

LinusSexTips ,

It's fairly basic, am migrating to OCI containers for majority of services.

https://codeberg.org/kye/nixos/src/branch/master/serv/arr/default.nix

Will be defining paths in the OCI containers currently it's manually configured for the most part. Mainly to do with folder perms being a bitch like networking (for me).

RootBeerGuy , to Selfhosted in ‘My whole library is wiped out’: what it means to own movies and TV in the age of streaming services
@RootBeerGuy@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

She later said Telstra had contacted her and offered a free Fetch box, which she acknowledged was a “reasonable resolution”.

And we have learned exactly nothing here. See you in 2 years when Fetch closes down and you are not getting anything back because you actually did not "buy" those movies on Fetch but on the previous platform.

CaptKoala ,

Yep, assuming this new service lasts that long. Could be a year or less.

kureta ,

Stop trying to make fetch happen!

Neosnc ,

It’s not going to happen!

Aarkon ,

Well, that or go to court for a movie collection. I'd phrase my statement differently, but I can see the appeal of the settlement.

Bezier , (edited ) to Not The Onion in Appeals court tells Texas it cannot ban books for mentioning ‘butt and fart’
@Bezier@suppo.fi avatar

mention “butt and fart”

denounced by officials as ‘pornographic filth’

Some people

Viking_Hippie OP ,

Yeah. They (pretend to) consider the kind of things that children (and many adults) find more hilarious than anything else "pornographic filth" and racial and ethnic slurs protected speech.

These people are literally mentally unwell authoritarian bigots.

paddirn ,

Almost the entirety of what my kids find funny is just adding ‘poopy’, ‘pee’, butt’, and ‘fart’ to sentences. If there is a god, I’m pretty sure they could’ve found less funny ways for us to expel gases and bodily waste than the current system (though we’d still joke about it).

DarkThoughts ,

Americans completely lost the plot.

Starkstruck ,

Makes me think they have poop and fart fetishes

fluxion , to World News in Conservatives crushed by ‘worst local election result’ in years

Wow, apparently in some places there are consequences for completing tanking your country's economy and global standing. Which that was true everywhere

thetreesaysbark ,

It's taken a lot of tanking for people to wake up.

Also these are just council seats. I can only hope it translates to the GE. The past few years however has taught me to hold no expectations for how the public will vote.

clearedtoland , to World News in Byron Bay is to be stripped of its nudist beach – and naturists blame ‘conservative creep’

Someday I hope to build up the courage to visit/participate a nudist beach. It seems far more comfortable and “normal” in Europe than in the States from my travels. Remarkably humanizing.

Num10ck ,

its surprisingly a nothing burger. from 50+ feet away a nude elderly man looks quite similar to a nude elderly woman. the breeze is the best part.

SeaJ ,

Went to one while in Spain. The spectrum was roughly the same as you would see at any beach. There were no creepers hanging around or anyone who was judgy.

clearedtoland ,

I experienced the same at “regular” beaches out in Greece. Topless women and Speedos were just as normal as any other beachgoer. It was really rather relaxing thinking back to it now.

Hugh_Jeggs ,

The Speedos were the French. They do love their budgie-smugglers for some reason

targetx ,
@targetx@programming.dev avatar

It used to be required at a lot of camping pools because the longer shorts would take too much water out of the pool.. nowadays it's not often required anymore in my experience.

Hugh_Jeggs ,

It's still required at pools because the downhill (VTT) bikers will wear board shorts, get covered in mud then try to just walk into swimming pools with them

PrimeMinisterKeyes ,

Because topless != nude in most of Europe. Hell, you can see topless women at pretty much any seashore when it's warm enough.

bdonvr ,

There's one in my area of Florida. It's the busiest part of the beach lol. Other people get judgy if you tell them you go, but the people there are super normal. It's really more about yourself being free in nature. If you go to ogle at people you'll be disappointed and also unwelcome, naturists don't generally tolerate creeps. They like to keep it chill and everyone interacts like any other beach. Occasionally there's even kids there.

But it's technically illegal in the state... But the cops turn a blind eye and haven't gone after it (it's been this way for decades). The (federally run) park even put up signs to warn that you made encounter "nude sunbathers" at a certain part of the beach.

Bell ,

North Fla resident here, where's the beach you're talking about?

bdonvr , (edited )

Playalinda beach on the space coast, near Titusville and next to the launch pads. Last parking lot is clothing optional. Really clean and natural beach. Also great for watching rocket launches, if they keep the beach open for it.

https://thelemmy.club/pictrs/image/054498a0-cb3e-4e07-b1a9-17d9999f25f2.jpeg

(The structures in the distance are rocket launch towers, it's legitimately the closest you can get.)

AlligatorBlizzard ,

I've never had the opportunity to go to Playalinda, but I do really miss Paradise Beach before the tourists found out about it.

threelonmusketeers , (edited )

Hang on, are you saying that at Playalinda, one could watch a rocket launch and be naked at the same time?

bdonvr ,

Yes, however the nude section is the furthest parking lot, which is 4 miles north of where this was taken. Still a spectacle and much closer than most people will see a rocket launch, but if you came to see a launch then you probably want to be as close as possible

Lost_My_Mind ,

Occasionally there’s even kids there.

Ew ew ew ew ew ew no. Just.....just no.

Before I wasn't going to go because I'm not comfortable with my own body. NOW I'll never go, because I assumed it was 21+. I don't mind catching a glimpse of adult male nudity (I'm a straight male), because at least it's an adult consenting to it. But I DO NOT want to see 8 year olds running around naked. Both from a standpoint of I don't want to see it, AND from the standpoint that I don't want others knowing they can go there to see it.

Think about it. Prior to 2012 or whatever year it was, NOBODY would have thought anything wrong with Jarod from subway going to a nude beach. But would you want your 8 year old at the same nude beach as Jarod??? Nobody knew he was into that, and the only reason you know now is because it made the news. The people in your neighborhood WON'T make the news.

There are various search tools online to see who in your neighborhood has been placed on the sex offender registry. Of the 37 houses on my street, 24 of them have had some form of sexual based arrest since the 1970s.

Can YOU pick out the predators based on visual glimpse? I can't.

Technoguyfication ,

Username checks out

Lost_My_Mind ,

Not sure why what I said is so unpopular? Basically I don't want to see naked kids, and don't want others to know of a place to look at naked kids.

And that's.......somehow me being crazy?

Spectrism ,
@Spectrism@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

What's so different about a kid being naked compared to an adult being naked? Also, if you don't want to see naked kids, just... don't look at them? I don't get what your problem is here.

Lost_My_Mind ,

Well, I know kids today aren't being raised with the same protections I was as a kid. Kids swear more often now, see more violent tv than I did, and see sex more often than I did.

However I still maintain that kids should be treated as if they are as innocent as I was as a kid. I didn't know what sex was until puberty, and thats the way it should be. Let them have a childhood.

You start making it known "hey, this is a place where naked kids are", then you'll inevitably have people going there specifically to see the naked kids. And you'll never know which ones are doing that. Nobody suspects the pedophile until they're caught.......which tells me the uncaught ones are just out there consequence free.

And as far as "just not looking", I covered this with the naked guys. I don't mind seeing the naked guy, even though I don't want to. You're going to see it if you're there. It's just going to at some point be in your visual line of sight. With adults, at least they're consenting adults who understand that any visitor to that beach, at anytime might sexualize them in their own mind. Children can't consent to that, because they don't understand the severity of the situation.

khannie ,
@khannie@lemmy.world avatar

However I still maintain that kids should be treated as if they are as innocent as I was as a kid. I didn't know what sex was until puberty, and thats the way it should be. Let them have a childhood.

This just reads so..... Strange. Nobody is advocating telling young kids about sex.

There is nothing inherently sexual about a naked human body. It's only weird if you're making it weird and, well, you are.

Lost_My_Mind ,

Nobody may be advocating for it, but it happens due to lazy parenting. I heard one 10 year old on the bus a few months ago tell another about his age "Suck my dick!".

When I was his age I'd never heard such phrases. I wouldn't even know TO say that. They hear it from whatever media, whether its tv, or youtube, or movies. Nobody is saying anyone is doing this in person, but lazy parenting leads to it happening.

khannie ,
@khannie@lemmy.world avatar

I'm honestly not sure if you're trolling or not at this point. We're discussing nude beaches here. Lazy parenting and kids using bad language is nothing to do with nude beaches.

Like.... Nothing at all.

Lost_My_Mind ,

Because a nude beach is supposed to be sexual. And a kid is the wrong element for that. They're supposed to not even know about nudity or sex at that age.

khannie ,
@khannie@lemmy.world avatar

Right. Now we're getting to the crux of it and I understand where your thinking is coming from but...

Because a nude beach is supposed to be sexual.

This is absolutely incorrect. Like totally wrong. There is nothing sexual about a nude beach.

Lost_My_Mind ,

EVERYTHING nude is sexual.....but especially beaches. I mean, only two types of people go to beaches. People looking to fuck in the lake while people watch, and the other, seperate part of the beach where families take their kids in the summer to swim.

Now you're removing the part where you have to sneak around at the beach, and make it nude to start with. How is that NOT sexual? Except .......now theres kids. At the part of the beach where you fuck.

khannie ,
@khannie@lemmy.world avatar

I'm gonna break something to you here that might blow your mind.... Europeans (and the people in the article) do not go to a nude beach to fuck. They're going there to feel more natural in nature.

Naked bodies are not sexual unless you sexualise them, which you are doing. The statue of David is a fine example here.

I honestly have never heard of a sexual nude beach in my life before. Maybe they exist where you live.

Edit:

EVERYTHING nude is sexual

If this is your world view I don't think we'll ever agree. That's kinda messed up IMO.

Lost_My_Mind ,

That's Europe though. They do a lot of things differently. Here in America, even the non-nude beaches are beaches for fucking in secret.

khannie ,
@khannie@lemmy.world avatar

I'm starting to think that maybe you're trolling again. You see I've spent lots of time in America, very fond of the place, and a lot of it on the beach.

I spent 4 straight months in San Diego and lived near the beach while I was there. I know that the beach is not a place for fucking in secret. Sure maybe it happens as little or as often as it does in the rest of the world but that doesn't make it the default function.

Anyway I'm trying to get back to sleep having woken in the middle of the night so I'm out. o/

I would gently suggest trying not to view naked as being sexual for a bit. It'll probably ease some worry in your mind that you don't need to have.

threelonmusketeers ,

Nobody is advocating telling young kids about sex.

Even if they were, I don't think I would take issue with it. Sex is a natural part of life and society. I think prudish/taboo attitudes towards sex create more problems than they solve.

khannie ,
@khannie@lemmy.world avatar

Fully agree though as a broad rule but there's an age of innocence that needs respecting IMO. I got told by an older boy I knew when I was just 8 and honestly that was not great. My own barometer is that if you still believe in Santa we'll have the talk later.

Funny story - Our eldest had some broad strokes when we sat him down but thought from the playground stories that you used a condom if you wanted to get pregnant. I was very glad to clear that little misconception up.

threelonmusketeers ,

got told by an older boy I knew when I was just 8 and honestly that was not great

Yeah, that's probably not the best way to find out.

there’s an age of innocence that needs respecting IMO

I'm not sure I necessarily agree. I had books like Visual Dictionary of the Human Body within reach since I was a toddler, so I don't recall the ideas of "sex" or "where babies come from" ever being a big deal or a shocking revelation.

if you still believe in Santa

Funnily enough, I don't think I ever believed in Santa either, so I guess your barometer checks out :)

khannie ,
@khannie@lemmy.world avatar

Funnily enough, I don’t think I ever believed in Santa either, so I guess your barometer checks out :)

Yeah, fair enough. I suppose that's unusual in the West if that's where you're from.

I mean it depends on your background a bit. I don't think kids who grow up on a farm have any doubt.

girlfreddy OP ,
@girlfreddy@lemmy.ca avatar

My rule of thumb is if the kid can ask a cogent question (just not the Why? or How come? ones) then they deserve an honest answer.

Spectrism ,
@Spectrism@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

They can still be innocent at nude beaches. There aren't any orgies there or whatever you think a nude beach is.

Creeps gonna creep. Only way to avoid them is to not go outside. And honestly who cares? Maybe I'm a bit desensitised, but if someone stares at me at the beach, why should I care? Same goes for the ones staring at children, with the difference that children don't even worry about stuff like that.
I also think you overestimate the amount of people who actually go there to creep. It's not even necessary to go to a nude beach for that, I've seen plenty of naked kids at regular beaches.

"[...] because they don't understand the severity of the situation."
What severity? What's going to happen to the kids? Do you seriously think they worry about being sexualised? When I was a kid, we would run around naked in our backyard, lots of neighbours were able to see us. Did I worry about that in the slightest? Nope.

You're worrying too much.

Cryophilia ,

Well, I know kids today aren’t being raised with the same protections I was as a kid. Kids swear more often now, see more violent tv than I did, and see sex more often than I did.

Unless you're like 80, that's not true at all. Every generation since gen x has gotten more prudish.

Lost_My_Mind ,

I'm 40, and I was told I was being too scandalous for dating a black girl. 10 years ago teens were twerking, because Miley Cyrus did it.

How is that getting more prudish?

Cryophilia ,

Sounds like you just moved away from a hyper conservative area, or your local hyper conservative area caught up to the rest of the world. 40 years ago bankers were doing lines of cocaine off of strippers tits during their lunch break. The 80s were fucking WILD.

threelonmusketeers ,

However I still maintain that kids should be treated as if they are as innocent as I was as a kid. I didn't know what sex was until puberty, and thats the way it should be. Let them have a childhood.

What a weird take. I knew where babies came from long before I reached puberty, and this knowledge had no negative impact on my childhood whatsoever.

wolfeh ,
@wolfeh@lemmy.world avatar

Not sure why what I said is so unpopular

There's only one person in this thread sexualizing kids being naked.

Lost_My_Mind ,

First off, I'm not sexualizing them.

Secondly, I'm not worried about people in this thread sexualizing them. I'm worried about people on the beaches in person sexualizing them for years. Eventually they act on it. Four of my neighbors raped kids before they got arrested. And a guy roughly 15 streets from me kidnapped and raped 3 teenage girls for 15 years, before one eventually broke out of his basement. My sister was raped in the 80s when she was a teen. There are rapists all around.

Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In ,

Most people's response to a naked child on a beach is indifference. I know this because young kids play naked on nearly every European beach, nude or not. And no-one cares.

Your reaction is not indifference, so it stands out.

Technoguyfication ,

Because you turned a completely innocuous discussion about nude beaches into an unhinged rant about sexualizing children. Nudity does not inherently mean sexual.

A short comment like “yeah I don’t know how I’d feel about children at a nude beach” would have been fine, but the extent to which you’re talking about it comes off as creepy and projecting.

KillingTimeItself ,

how do you even know the kids are allowed to be nude there?

Lost_My_Mind ,

I was responding to a portion of another persons message that said they were.

KillingTimeItself ,

see thats weird, i read that comment, not one mention of "naked kids" being there, just "kids" being there...

Lost_My_Mind ,

At a nude beach.

KillingTimeItself ,

clothing optional*

frezik ,

There's definitely kids walking around naked at nudist beaches. Nudist areas are explicitly non-sexual, though.

KillingTimeItself ,

idk i've never been to one but it's clothing optional, so it's up to the kids and the parents ig.

Bartsbigbugbag ,

I swam naked in the fountain at our towns courthouse as a child, and it was fine. You’re weird and creepy.

Lost_My_Mind ,

Ew. I'm fairly certain if I'd have done that, my dad would have beaten me with a tire iron, and then my mom would have beaten me with a belt in case my dad missed any spots.

Ibuthyr ,

Man, that sucks. But also kind of explains your mindset regarding this.

Zahtu ,

Honestly , you are projecting sexuality where there really is none. I have been growing up (except for the teen years, where everything is embarrassing) going to our 'naturalist' (FKK) lakes and beaches every summer, and there newer were such problems.

frezik ,

If this is your mindset, then you probably don't belong at a nudist area. Nudists are expressly non-sexual. They do not get along well with swingers, who are more explicitly sexual. Swingers invading nudist areas tend to get nudist areas shut down.

quafeinum ,

Im sorry that you are this fucked up in your head. It’s just bodies, nothing sexual, if god wanted us to be embarrassed then why did we turn out this way.

Lost_My_Mind ,

........well, I'm an athiest. So, our bodies are all we have, and when we die, they get set on fire, or decompose in a box. Everything BEFORE that matters though.

psivchaz ,

Beaches are tougher but I believe there's a nudist resort in every state in the US. You can visit the AANR website and find the closest one. If it's a "family resort" that means it's probably very welcoming, if a little boring depending on location.

Wahots ,
@Wahots@pawb.social avatar

They are really good. And tbh, they feel pretty normal once you get used to it, usually takes about 15 min. I prefer them now, since you dry off a lot quicker and don't have to deal with a wet bathing suit. The US has some good ones, as does Canada.

frankgrimeszz , to World News in Israel-Gaza war live: Israel warns it could take Lebanon ‘back to the Stone Age’ as defence minister wraps up Washington trip

Why are we allies with Israel again?

Carrolade ,

After WW2 everyone felt really bad. And it was a west-leaning country in a region full of oil and big trade routes.

Most of the calculus has slowly changed over the years. The Congressionally-passed treaties all still remain though.

PugJesus ,
@PugJesus@lemmy.world avatar

And it was a west-leaning country in a region full of oil and big trade routes.

Other way around - their loyalties weren't firmly lodged with either of the superpowers, so the US in the 70s and 80s put a lot of time and effort into wooing them.

Their loyalties still aren't lodged with anyone, but we keep sucking them off anyway.

sunzu ,

It seems people forgot USS Liberty

rottingleaf ,

Their loyalties still aren’t lodged with anyone, but we keep sucking them off anyway.

Well, I shit at Israel every day, but they would be nuts to "lodge their loyalties" when that means loss of such leverage.

PugJesus ,
@PugJesus@lemmy.world avatar

Contrary to the delusions of realpolitik types, international relations are a matter of relations, not purely moment-to-moment vulture capitalist behavior. Israel is coasting on internal factors within the US government at present - the lack of actual mutual loyalty means that, should those internal factors (Israeli dark money and the political influence of evangelical millenarians) ever weaken, the institutions of the US will see little reason not to throw Israel to the wolves.

rottingleaf ,

Israeli dark money

... is something important enough to kill a 100 JFKs for.

It's a state sporting F35s and such.

and the political influence of evangelical millenarians

Can't speak about them, I don't live in the US and the fact of such a group existing is wild for me.

PugJesus ,
@PugJesus@lemmy.world avatar

… is something important enough to kill a 100 JFKs for.

To the Israelis, maybe. To Americans, Israeli money has become a polarizing issue over the past decade.

It’s a state sporting F35s and such.

Man, plenty of US allies are involved in the F-35 program and the US doesn't bend over backwards for them. It's really not that important in the grand scheme of US-Israeli relations.

rottingleaf ,

Those plenty are not so numerous if we consider how many nation-states there are on the globe.

Erasmus ,
@Erasmus@lemmy.world avatar

Because a death cult runs our political system in the US.

rottingleaf ,

It's rather weird that a Christian cult would spend so much on people who are, according to that cult, pariahs.

I don't think support of Israel is that much connected to Christianity. It's rather that when you have Israel, supporting it is a huge reputational counterweight to any fascist action you take.

SkybreakerEngineer ,

Pariahs who need to have their own state for armageddon to happen. Remember that these are the same mental giants who invented the prosperity gospel. Not a cult so much as the entirety of southern baptism.

Nutteman ,
@Nutteman@lemmy.world avatar

It's 100% wrapped up in Christianity. It's all part of their apocalypse fantasy.

TheOctonaut ,

> when you don't read to the end of the bible so you don't know why the US really wants Israel to exist

rottingleaf ,

I did read it a lot, it's just that Christianity over the pond is weird. Weirder than in China and Japan, I can understand where their traits of it come from, but in USA it's something hard for me to emotionally grasp.

Nutteman ,
@Nutteman@lemmy.world avatar

The USA's relationship to Christianity is unique in that the first fuckers to come colonize the place were too strict even for Christianity in 17th century Europe. The Puritans were a blight upon this world and the ramifications are still sending aftershocks to the present day.

rottingleaf ,

I should have added that practical Catholicism in South America doesn't seem to have this kind of weirdness, so indeed it's Puritans or even more generally, the spirit of a closed small sect, where the religion itself is not as important as the sect loyalty and uncritical following. Only it's neither closed nor small.

AWittyUsername ,
rottingleaf ,

Yep, starting with the first paragraph. The author might have skipped his Sunday school or something. In Christianity it's considered that "God's chosen people" has been extended to the whole humanity.

"I don’t think these people even know what that truly means" - maybe most of them don't, but they are using the designation correctly.

"Arab citizens of Israel have the same rights as Jewish citizens" - well, the statement is kinda true ; technically false due to Israeli laws being a patchwork of weird shit with some inheritance from the Ottoman millets system, which is the same as apartheid give or take, but that's not why the author is wrong. It's just that most of Arabs living under Israeli military control are not citizens of Israel.

Why am I even commenting that, there are sometimes outrageous texts with which it's a dubious, but still pleasure to argue with. This one is just some jellybrain's product.

bartolomeo ,
@bartolomeo@suppo.fi avatar
rottingleaf ,

OK, it's totally false now, but before that bill it was technically false, but practically usually true. I don't live in Israel and kinda forgot that whole thing due to being more interested in it in the context of Israel arming Azerbaijan.

Frog ,

Israel has a huge intelliegence network that the US help them build by giving them billions of dollars.

The US relations with that area is already really poor. Pulling support of Israel will bring the US back decades of relationship building, billions of dollars invested, and losing the location. The location is important because Israel is in the center, near water, and isn't an island.

Morally, being allies with Israel is not good, logically it makes sense.

rottingleaf ,

It being that important, surely somebody in the US government and intelligence have thought that they might not be abusing only that importance for funds, but the ties themselves for influence. In the sense of spying at the US, corruption and such.

Frog ,

They could very well be doing those things. Israel is a technology powerhouse now. Being allies allows more political accountability.

WraithGear , (edited )
@WraithGear@lemmy.world avatar

Sounds a lot like sunken cost fallacy. We might be better off making other allies.

Frog ,

The president role is 7 years. Knesset seat is 4 years. Would you give up decades of relationship building for one presidential term?

Also how often would you switch allies if they commit genocide defined by the Genocide Convention?

WraithGear ,
@WraithGear@lemmy.world avatar

Over an active genocide? I would immediately end a friendship with a country and as many times as it takes to not be responsible for enabling a genocide. Allies don’t let allies commit genocide, everyone knows that. Besides it takes more than a president to do a genocide.

Frog ,

How much time needs to pass before a genocide is no longer an "active genocide"?

WraithGear ,
@WraithGear@lemmy.world avatar

I knew this would come up, which is why i specified this. Might as well as cut the head off the “every country has committed genocide at some point” argument. Not every country is actively committing genocide, Israel is. America is their chef supplier of power. America is actively Shielding them from the consequences of committing genocide.

So we should stop backing a country that is actively committing genocide full stop. No money, no weapons, no blocking sanctions, no threatening countries and organizations trying to help the victims. This is the literal bare minimum, as we should be sanctioning them, we should be guaranteeing humanitarian aid to Palestinians.

When is it not an active genocide? When the genocide stops.

Frog , (edited )

Let's say we stopped being allies with them and stopped funding. So if they stop tomorrow, then the US should have them as allies again?

WraithGear ,
@WraithGear@lemmy.world avatar

Possibly, at that point it would be based on trust that the administration would not continue genocide actions. If Israel changed the ruling party and immediately stopped their genocide then that would be the fastest means to return. I have issues with the land grab into Palestine for the same reason i side with Ukraine. But genocide gives me more than just issues.

Frog ,

Okay you have an issue with the land grab so you stop being allies with Israel. They won't stop the genocide. Israel will continue with the weapons they already have. Now they think they absolutely need to take over Palestine because they can't have neighbors that are controlled by Hamas.

Was that the right choice? Should the US stop the genocide by sending troops and money to government of Palestine? Maybe the money that was intended for Israel?

WraithGear , (edited )
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That sounds like an abusive relationship to me, regarding Israel. But if we could not stop Israel from committing genocide no matter what, then i would have us not enable it. If they have the resources available to commit genocide without our help, then they don’t need our help covering their defense, economy, nor political sway either.

Would actively sending our money and troops to Palestine to attack Israel be the correct play? It’s not so cut and dry as the Ukraine/ Russia war. But that money could go tword humanitarian efforts in Palestine, i am not so much concerned about the Palestinian government as i am the Palestinian people.

Frog ,

Israel is killing humanitarians in Palestine. If Israel kills Americans, should the US declare war?

UN mourns the deaths of more than 100 aid workers in Gaza, the highest number killed in any conflict in its history

WraithGear ,
@WraithGear@lemmy.world avatar

I did not know it was so many, but i know they were specifically targeted.

I guess i should answer your real question, what would it take before the US should go to war with Israel? I am hesitant, they are possibly a nuclear armed power, and a war would cost even more innocent lives. But if i had to choose i would have already effectively done so.

Frog ,

This article is from 7 months ago so it is more. Some people just want to feed children and their trucks are being blown up. It is fucking horrible.

I ask you these questions because these are the questions I have asked myself and I always end with the same conclusion. Israel is an information super power. The US needs Israel more than vice versa. The infromation provided by Israel has helped keep the US and other allies safe.

The question I get asked is "if that information is so valuable, then why didn't they keep themselves safe?" They did know about the attacks. Israel allowed the attack to happen thinking it would allow them in the eyes of the public to take Palestine.

Wikipedia link - look at the "Events leading to the attack" and the "Israeli intelligence failure" sections.

WraithGear ,
@WraithGear@lemmy.world avatar

I agree that Isreal getting attacked was needed to begin the land grab and to maintain power of the political party, and to attempt to justify murder. I also agree that one reason the US is allied to Isreal its for a for hold in the region for us to project power. But that is about it. I don’t hold that America needs this partnership, to such a degree to overlook genocide.

fluxion ,

And why do we think they need more weapons to "defend" themselves if they're threatening to obliterate multiple other countries?

Lover__of__worlds ,

Because you are a genocide country

cosmicrookie , to World News in ‘We will fight with our fingernails’ says Netanyahu after US threat to curb arms
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When you play the victim role one (or rather 50) times too many.

According to Israel, everyone is against Israel

Sometimes, when everything is shit, check your shoes instead of telling others that they are shit

filister ,

And everyone who dares criticizing them is obviously antisemitic.

UnderpantsWeevil ,
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

Especially those self-hating Jews.

cosmicrookie ,
@cosmicrookie@lemmy.world avatar

Sorry i honestly dont get this.
I agree with criticism of Israel but what do you mean with your comment about jews?

captainlezbian ,

A lot of Jewish groups have protested Israel and their Jewishness has been ignored and them been called antisemites or they’ve been called self hating Jews.

cosmicrookie ,
@cosmicrookie@lemmy.world avatar

Ok got it.

Fedizen ,

Can a country have a gender, too? Can the state of Israel be a woman so its also sexist not to commit genocide?

Railing5132 ,

Shit, congress passed a law codifying that too!

Linkerbaan ,
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If you perfectly obey israel and wag your tail for them you are allowed to exist.

The second anyone pushes back in the slightest against their Nazi regime trying to execute a Holocaust they are instantly slandered as Hamas.

Israel has no qualms throwing loyal dogs that have been supporting them for their entire lives, just look at Genocide Joe getting labeled as Hamas the second he draws any lines.

These are not people that can be negotiated with. The are extremist maniacs.

MonkderDritte ,

I mean, this is a core trait of narcissism.

DudeImMacGyver , to World News in India elections: PM Narendra Modi claims he has been chosen by God
@DudeImMacGyver@sh.itjust.works avatar

Why are insane authoritarians still popular?

nerdschleife ,
@nerdschleife@lemm.ee avatar

They're all the weak man's idea of a strong man

SlopppyEngineer ,

They give simple answers to difficult questions, and many people that have a pretty black-and-white view of reality really like that.

cupcakezealot ,
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because they use populist rhetoric to mask their plans while scapegoating marginalised people and blaming them for the problems of the country

random_character_a ,
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Same reason far-right is rising in Europe. Most of us are just morons.

octopus_ink , to Not The Onion in Vermont Republican secretly poured water into colleague’s bag over months

As for whether he forgives Morrissey, Carroll said: “I guess I would have to say yes in the spirit of forgiveness, reluctantly. But if I had to be a smartass, I’d say her apology holds about as much water as my canvas bag.”

Rock on buddy.

weariedfae ,

Oh snap!

Masamune ,

Somebody grab the Neosporin, we got a sick burn over here!

FuglyDuck ,
@FuglyDuck@lemmy.world avatar

Shit…..

That’s some backhanded forgiveness

perviouslyiner , (edited ) to Bicycles in Man who survived ebike fire that killed his family fights for change to UK law

Coming just after Project Farm's video about most of the power tool batteries sold on Amazon Ebay being hard-to-detect counterfeits, missing their safety features, and containing unlabelled cells which are also missing their safety features.

5714 ,
barsquid ,

Fucking yikes. Those looked like eBay pages, was there a separate video on Amazon? I know Amazon is shady but hopefully not as shady as those eBay fraudsters.

The packaging looked so similar it'd be nice to know how to determine it is real or not. I guess open the case and check the batteries.

Schmuppes , (edited )

Amazon ist just as shady. The additional issue with them is that they pool inventory from their own and from marketplace sellers that they do logistics for. Let's say they source genuine batteries from the OE manufacturer and some marketplace dude will have his stock at the Amazon warehouse, which is counterfeit goods.
Chances are then that when you order from Amazon themselves, they pick one of the counterfeit units from the marketplace seller because they're stored in the same shelf and Amazon does the shipping.

I cannot give you good advice on where to purchase original batteries for a good price online, but I know that Amazon should not be your first choice.

perviouslyiner , (edited )

that'll be my lesson about posting videos from memory! updated. The youtube comments did mention Amazon and other shops too.

Yeah, the takeaway did seem to be, at the very least, to check whether the cells inside are branded - although in many cases they were packed in a way that you can't tell without destroying the internal plastic structure.

obviously wouldn't have helped the poor cyclist, who could only afford the non-genuine batteries.

barsquid ,

Ah, gotcha. I don't quite trust Amazon to do a great job, either. I just know they are official distributors for some of these brands so I wonder if my mistrust is unfounded.

dlok ,

Safest thing to do is buy from the manufacturer approved resellers, that can even be on eBay as they often have a presence there as well as their own site.

nimomycelium , to World News in EU elections 2024 live: Emmanuel Macron dissolves French parliament and calls snap elections after huge far-right gains
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An unprecedented move which could backfire as it did for Chirac in 1997. Macron is playing a dangerous gamble with the Fifth Republic...
🗳️🇫🇷

Dop ,

Comparing it to Chirac's situation is downplaying how crazy te move is right now.
Can you imagine how fucked up this is? Like "oh, the far right has more than twice as many votes as we got, it must be some sort of big misclick situation, lets check it out !"

kandoh ,

I think it's more that the situation is only going to get worse the longer we wait so he's pulling the trigger now for the best conditions he's ever going to get. Not great

Dop ,

The conditions he spent years building? Yeah, I'm not falling for that.

nimomycelium ,
@nimomycelium@lemmy.world avatar

Like I said: a dangerous gamble with the Fifth Republic...

Dop ,

We all know how the far right has a hard time letting go of it's grip on power, that's for sure. But this ils no 'gamble', like he'd be cornered to do this, he led us here. He is deliberately playing with the french like they're just paws in his self-centered game.

nimomycelium ,
@nimomycelium@lemmy.world avatar

And by the looks of things it seems like I was right it has (so far) spectacularly backfired. Obviously we have to wait for the second round but..

Semi_Hemi_Demigod , to World News in Yacht sinks after latest incident involving orcas in strait of Gibraltar
@Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world avatar

Nature is healing

HuddaBudda ,
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Evolution adapts to multiple problems at once.

A pod of orcas that vigorously defend their food supply, get to eat, and train their offspring to also defend their food supplies.

Orcas that don't, either die off, or adapt to a different food source.

Thus why climate change is becoming a problem as nature is adapting to food sources becoming less abundant.

and wildlife becoming unfriendly or inedible to adapt to the changes.

SpaceNoodle ,

I hate it when wildlife becomes inedible

Daft_ish ,

Can confirm, this wildlife is not sitting well.

GregorGizeh , (edited )

My only worry with this is that we start hunting them to eradicate or at least contain a threat, like we do to most wild animals who could potentially, perhaps, maybe, harm a human intruding on their habitat and territory. Like wolves in europe, we carefully reintroduce them after almost eradicating them entirely, they do what wolves do and prey on some livestock here and there, and people immediately ask for them to be culled.

fritobugger2017 ,

We have likely killed most of their normal food sources

SlopppyEngineer ,

That's basically the intro from The Swarm

harry315 , to Technology in Google Cloud accidentally deletes a financial institution account due to ‘unprecedented misconfiguration’

Remember people: The cloud is just someone else's computer.

djsoren19 , to World News in Turkey stops all trade with Israel over ‘humanitarian tragedy’ in Gaza

Gd, when even fucking Erdogan thinks you're going too far. I know they're a usually antagonistic force to the West, but they are a real player in the region, so this is still good pressure on Israel. Even if it happens to be opportunistic.

protist ,

Turkey/Erdogan aligns with the West most of the time. He's antagonistic sometimes, and that's what makes headlines so is the image most people have developed of him. He's been staunchly pro-Palestine since he took office in 2003, and has had pretty poor relations with Israel for almost the entire last 20 years, so this is not surprising

Linkerbaan , to World News in Woman killed by her two XL bully dogs at home in east London
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

and the two registered dogs were safely seized having been contained inside a room, a spokesperson for the Metropolitan police said.

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/0e83de61-0d89-4ccd-bb4e-5717520b6de5.png

jaybone ,

What is confusing about this?

Linkerbaan ,
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

It's a joke referencing American cops often shooting dogs for no reason

jaybone ,

Oh. In this case I’m guessing the dogs would be euthanized anyway, and probably even justified in being shot. This isn’t the SWAT teams weekly accidental break in to the wrong house.

barsquid ,

Accidental? These guys are bursting in on the basis of a VoIP phone call originating from behind a VPN.

veganpizza69 ,
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Dogs Shot by Cops - Animal Legal Defense Fund

(US cops are famous for killing dogs)

x4740N OP ,
@x4740N@lemmy.world avatar

american police would have shot the dogs claiming "there was nothing we could do, we where scared they'd break through the door and eat us"

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