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notanaltaccount , to Technology in Microsoft has gone too far: including a Game Pass ad in the Settings app ushers in a whole new age of ridiculous over-advertising

If you order the shit soup, don't act surprised if it tastes bad.

These people are CHOOSING to use Windows. They need to just STFU and use Linux or enjoy the shit soup they keep ordering.

mtchristo , to Technology in Microsoft has gone too far: including a Game Pass ad in the Settings app ushers in a whole new age of ridiculous over-advertising

Microsoft is so confident in its desktop marketshare that they allow themselves to push the overton window on what users will tolerate.

The only competitor they can lose users to is Apple. And even then not everyone can afford an Apple computer, especially in the rest of the world

nadram ,
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Forget Apple. Without buying any new hardware, i managed to replace Windows with Ubuntu just a month ago. My most hated moment on windows was the time i saw the onedrive ad in file explorer... That felt way too intrusive.

GregorGizeh ,

Dont forget that the vast majority of users either doesnt know Linux, distrusts Linux, has heard rumors at any point in time about some feature or component not working as perfectly as under windows, is uninterested in computers beyond their daily usage function, or finds themselves in a social circle or job environment hostile to Linux.

What Linux needs to get widely adopted is settle for one central distro, iron out all bugs and compatibility issues and do a bunch of testing with windows users to determine what differences they are confused by. The goal must be to create total feature and compatibility parity with windows, and make the whole process so incredibly simple that even absolute morons with zero interest in computers can both use it instinctively and not miss anything their windows used to do. Then run a massive adoption campaign.

Now I know many aspects of this are directly opposed to the fos ethos, but if Linux ever wants to claim market share they need to spend big on it and pick up the users where they are; in a place of zero user ability and a lot of ignorance.

thedirtyknapkin ,

i think the only way Linux is increasing it's market share beyond fringe enthusiasts (that's us) is by more devices coming with it pre-installed. expecting anyone outside of the tech space to change the operating system their device came with is a pipe dream

mtchristo ,

OEM have no incentive to ship Linux in their laptops. Plus they get discounts from Microsoft for using windows. So that's not gonna happen

jas0n ,

Get it in the schools. It's a bad habit from many people's childhood that they need to break. Make that original habit not suck.

Eyck_of_denesle ,

Cosmic desktop can do this. They already have similar history.

dual_sport_dork ,
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finds themselves in a social circle or job environment hostile to Linux.

Ugh. Tell me about it.

I haven't tried to run the latest Corel graphics suite in Wine recently, but the last time I did it exploded in my face so spectacularly I think my eyebrows still haven't fully grown back. I really need that to work for... work. Basically everything else I already use is FOSS anyway.

CileTheSane ,
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What Linux needs to get widely adopted is settle for one central distro

One central distro guarantees its eventual enshittification. I'm happy with the knowledge that if my distro enshittifies I can just move to a different one.

GregorGizeh ,

I'm not saying we should shutter all the others or make a Linux for profit corporation, just that if there is a sort of "base" Linux that can be used and referenced as universally as windows, with the same capability, stability and compatibility, catering to the same crowd of dumbest possible user, that would go a long way in my opinion in getting Linux more widely adopted.

CileTheSane ,
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I believe Mint is designed for ease of installation and use, and similarity to Windows.

neclimdul , to Technology in Microsoft has gone too far: including a Game Pass ad in the Settings app ushers in a whole new age of ridiculous over-advertising

Should I point out the irony of this complaint being posted on a site with ads every other sentence and doesn't even show what the windows ads looks like?

It's a valid complaint and all I just laughed as I scrolled past all the blank "ad here" blocks to read the article.

umbraroze , to Technology in Microsoft has gone too far: including a Game Pass ad in the Settings app ushers in a whole new age of ridiculous over-advertising

Joke's on you, Microsoft.

First of all, I already have Game Pass, so you don't get any new sales.
Second, if I open the settings app in Windows 11, it just straight up crashes. (Can access the other tabs, e.g. through desktop customisation. But if I go to the front page, it crashes.)

It was broken by the update that supposedly added some other ads. But I've not seen them! I had to disable the "recommendations" in start menu because it made the start menu not work at all (due to the aforementioned crash, same deal).

This actually really sucks, though. Windows Store apps do not update themselves, Xbox services stopped working (due to being unable to update WS games), and I don't know if Windows Update works or not. I guess I need to reinstall when I get arsed to.

big_slap , to Technology in Microsoft has gone too far: including a Game Pass ad in the Settings app ushers in a whole new age of ridiculous over-advertising

I updated my work laptop, and they put their shitty copilot button on the bottom right and TURNED OFF MY SHOW DESKTOP BUTTON.

nothing more to add, just wanted to vent with people who may understand my rage with windows lol

zaph ,
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As tech support this has made my job a bit more annoying.

Scrollone ,

It's time to ditch Windows and all move to macOS or (even better) Linux

pumpkinseedoil ,

MacOS has different flaws but has major flaws nonetheless. Linux is the one that truly lets you own your computer, you decide everything.

Scrollone ,

I agree, I use Linux. But "normal people" aren't able to install an operating system, and they can't easily go to the shop and buy a Linux computer. They can buy a mac though. Still better than nothing.

pumpkinseedoil ,

For the money you save by buying similarly good hardware that isn't from apple you can pay someone to install an OS

purplemonkeymad ,

Yea it annoys me too, you can switch it back, but I can't do that every time I'm working on someone's computer.

big_slap ,

yeah, I switched it back. for a split second, I just couldn't believe they had the audacity to do that... lol

asparagapple ,

If you have adapted to it, rejoice! They are changing it back. Copilot will be a button beside Start button now.

forgotaboutlaye ,

I went with a Mac for my last work computer refresh. Had Windows before that. Don't have a Linux option.

OrderedChaos ,

I believe Win + D will do the same as that missing button.

Halosheep , to Technology in Microsoft has gone too far: including a Game Pass ad in the Settings app ushers in a whole new age of ridiculous over-advertising

I think this community exists only to complain about Microsoft. Not sure I ever see anything else.

dual_sport_dork ,
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That is patently false.

...Sometimes we also complain about Facebook or Tesla.

Fedizen ,

Wrong, this is the elon musk complaint forum. Always has been

lolcatnip ,

Seems to me it's mostly complaining about Google.

JustARaccoon ,

They do make it very hard to speak about anything else

Halosheep ,

Thing is, most of these complaints are serious non issues.

JustARaccoon ,

You're being slowly boiled alive, frog friend

Abdoanmes ,

I read the title and thought, "Oh is this another ad for Linux?"

spacemanspiffy ,

Yeah but it is mostly warranted.

I wish we Apple-bashed more. Fuck Apple.

1984 , to Technology in Microsoft has gone too far: including a Game Pass ad in the Settings app ushers in a whole new age of ridiculous over-advertising
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You guys complain but you never actually switch to Linux. :)

If you truly cared about being a technological slave, you would learn Linux tomorrow. But just like someone stuck in a abusive relationship, you hang around despite the horrible treatment because you are afraid to leave what's comfortable.

HKayn ,
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Everyone in this thread is already using Linux and just using this thread to circlejerk about issues the average Windows user won't care about.

1984 ,
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Maybe it is like that yeah.

NutWrench , to Technology in Microsoft has gone too far: including a Game Pass ad in the Settings app ushers in a whole new age of ridiculous over-advertising
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I got the "It's time to upgrade to Windows 11" message on my Windows 10 laptop. It's getting aggravating.

ArtVandelay ,
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gotta love the aggressive tone. "Its Time. Switch to Windows 11." Some mafia shit lol

GreenStar , to Technology in Microsoft has gone too far: including a Game Pass ad in the Settings app ushers in a whole new age of ridiculous over-advertising
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Tbh me switching to Debian (using the KDE desktop experience) is feeling better and better, my PC runs over 3x faster, I have way more control over my own device, and everything works better than ever!

JCreazy , to Technology in Microsoft has gone too far: including a Game Pass ad in the Settings app ushers in a whole new age of ridiculous over-advertising

I switched to Linux Mint Debian edition when the Reddit thing happened. I'm glad I did before Windows got this bad.

BluescreenOfDeath ,

I made the swap after they forced Windows 7 update behavior to change. You used to be able to download updates but you got to choose when to install them. Then they changed it to either they're on and fully automatic, or fully off.

At the time, I was running a computer repair company, and my work computer running Win7 was running a data recovery on an accidentally formatted drive for almost two days. After I had left and the program finished, Windows was all "Oh, the computer is idle now. Let me give you a 15 minute warning that I'm going to install updates and reboot if you don't cancel".

After the second time, I formatted my work computer. Shortly after, I did the same to my gaming PC. Haven't looked back once.

JCreazy ,

I love to hear it. Linux has done pretty much everything I've needed it to to and it's great to see a lot of programs are available for Linux natively.

BluescreenOfDeath ,

I think my favorite part of swapping has been forgetting how Windows does things. I'm so embedded in Linux and how it works every day that I don't remember where to go for certain things in Windows without having to search.

I remember some power user shortcuts like run prompt shortcuts (appwiz.cpl or control userpasswords2) but I used to be able to walk people through how to get certain pages in the Windows UI, and I couldn't do it today.

TheFeatureCreature , to Privacy in Microsoft has gone too far: including a Game Pass ad in the Settings app ushers in a whole new age of ridiculous over-advertising
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Looking in my settings landing page, I see ads for MS365, Copilot, and OneDrive.

noredcandy , to Privacy in Microsoft has gone too far: including a Game Pass ad in the Settings app ushers in a whole new age of ridiculous over-advertising

Taking a page from Apple’s book. The settings part of iOS has “warnings” if you aren’t using Apple add on services.

LodeMike , to Privacy in Microsoft has gone too far: including a Game Pass ad in the Settings app ushers in a whole new age of ridiculous over-advertising

Didn't they always promote in settings? Or is this an actual ad?

blindbunny ,

I've used Windows since 95 this is the first time I've heard of an ad in any os's settings.

LodeMike ,

Don't they beg you to sign in, enable one drive, etc.?

blindbunny ,

Yeah probably I stopped using windows after 7 but that wasn't in the settings.

LodeMike ,

I've used up to 10 actually, mostly in VMs otherwise all that shit is disabled by the university. It does pester you to sign in if you're not. I've never signed in. I used 8 way back when it came out.

RichieRich , to Technology in Microsoft has gone too far: including a Game Pass ad in the Settings app ushers in a whole new age of ridiculous over-advertising
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I hope they don't show an ad on my doctor's operating table computer while he's performing surgery on my heart and watching through a camera image. 😱

LifeOfChance ,

Meanwhile I would pray they would while I am so my family can get that good money lol

dvdnet62 , to Technology in Microsoft has gone too far: including a Game Pass ad in the Settings app ushers in a whole new age of ridiculous over-advertising
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I know ExplorePatcher and Startallback can stop ads on Start menu. is there any viable solution for this Settings app ad?

brb ,

Windows 10 LTSC

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