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ulkesh , (edited ) to Technology in Here's what's happening to ad blockers in Google Chrome (and other browsers)
@ulkesh@beehaw.org avatar

Everything said in that article makes me very happy to have switched to Firefox.

Google can dress this up all they want, but a happy byproduct of this (for them) is that they can now purposefully ignore rules/filtering for their own sites, such as youtube, since it puts the real control of such filtering with the browser (and the company who created it) instead of the extension. Yes there is a trust concern with extensions. And yes, there is a performance hit with extensions vetting each network call. But that’s the price we, as the user, should continue to have the power to choose to pay, but Google is forcing us to go their way.

Thanks Mozilla, for providing user choice.

FarceOfWill ,

With the number of trackers on most sites you usually get a performance boost with an extension vetting each network call

Treczoks , to Technology in Here's what's happening to ad blockers in Google Chrome (and other browsers)

Since January 2018, 42% of malicious extensions use the Web Request API.

That's like making knifes illegal in general because they have been used in a certain amount of murder cases.

ZILtoid1991 ,

And now, a new golden age of malvertisement will emerge...

Treczoks ,

Indeed. What a f-ing stupid argument: "We cannot trust the extensions that the user installed, therefor we give malware from advertisers free roam!"

LordCrom ,

If 42% of crimes used a handgun, we should ban those too.

StaySquared ,

You just made the argument for gun rights.

Thank you and I love you. <3

Treczoks ,

You just made the argument for gun rights.

Definitely not. Gun ownership should be abolished like slavery was. A knife has good use for cutting and cooking, but a gun, especially in private hands, has absolutely no reason to exist.

skeezix ,

a gun, especially in private hands, has absolutely no reason to exist

Americans phrase it a bit different:
‘Fuckin guns fuck yea!’

Treczoks ,

Yep. One of the many intellectual challenges that the US is facing...

UnderpantsWeevil ,
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

Gun ownership should be abolished like slavery was.

I've got some awful news for you about slavery

Excrubulent ,
@Excrubulent@slrpnk.net avatar

So you completely accept the state's monopoly on violence, and you also don't think farmers should be allowed to shoot pests?

This is a statement made by someone who lives in a political and ecological bubble.

Treczoks ,

So you completely accept the state’s monopoly on violence

Better than spreading this to everydays mass shooting event culprits, don't you agree?

Excrubulent , (edited )
@Excrubulent@slrpnk.net avatar

"Spreading"? It's already spread.

Plus it's kind of impossible to understand how you see police brutality and the way they responded to the George Floyd protests and think, "Yeah, these guys should be trusted with the only guns in existence."

Like have you already forgotten about Uvalde? If the cops hadn't been there to cower behind their cars and stop people rescuing their kids then less kids would've died.

Treczoks , (edited )

First: Is "every redneck yokel and his dumb brother is allowed to own an arsenal" in anyway better than a government monopoly in that regard?

Second: This would of course need properly selected and trained policemen, not those trigger-happy yokels that the US uses instead.

My position is from a country where "Police Brutality" is seen as an American or other third world country thing. We don't allow every random idiot to own a gun. We have properly trained police. We therefor also don't have issues like Uvalde and George Floyd. For an American, it is hard to draw a straight line between those factors, but in the rest of the civilized world, it is the standard.

Excrubulent , (edited )
@Excrubulent@slrpnk.net avatar

So sorry for assuming you were talking about the US when you talked about school shootings.

I come from a country like that too, but if you think police brutality doesn't happen in your country then again: political bubble.

Go ahead, tell me what country you're from and I'll burst it for you.

I used to say the same thing about my country, Australia, where they've recently been imprisoning whistleblowers who expose clear government abuse. EDIT: They've also been doing racist colonial violence since day 0 and they have never stopped.

There is no such thing as a state that can be trusted with violence. They always use it to oppress.

Treczoks ,

There is no such thing as a state that can be trusted with violence.

Oh, and trusting random yokels with violence is better?

Excrubulent ,
@Excrubulent@slrpnk.net avatar

Unironically yes.

Now are you going to answer what I'm saying or are you just bowing out of all the points you tried to raise and which I answered?

Treczoks ,

Unironically yes.

My condolences.

Now are you going to answer what I’m saying or are you just bowing out of all the points you tried to raise and which I answered?

I answered all the relevant ones.

Excrubulent , (edited )
@Excrubulent@slrpnk.net avatar

So like... your answer is no.

GiveMemes ,

You provided exactly zero reasoning for most of your statements and have now taken a condescending position. People like you are why we can't have nice things in the world.

Treczoks , (edited )

WTF do you need a "reasoning" for that normal people should not have guns at all?

GiveMemes ,

I prefer basing my opinions on logic, arguments, and facts over feelings. Your inability to articulate a response to certain arguments shows why this is still a debate. Further, you're relying on the idea that something is crazy to you, therefore it should be to everybody, but that's not how it works. There's racist people that use this exact type of reasoning to support their racism.

E.G.

"Black people are less than white people"

logical counterpoint
logical counterpoint

"WTF do you need a reasoning that black people are less than white people"

If your position is really stronger, then it shouldn't be hard for you to make arguments in favor of it.

cheddar ,
@cheddar@programming.dev avatar

So you completely accept the state’s monopoly on violence

That's the whole point of the state. And no, you guys are not fighting the US army with its armored vehicles, rockets, bombs, drones, etc. with your guns.

StaySquared , to Technology in Here's what's happening to ad blockers in Google Chrome (and other browsers)

I think I've made this comment before, but I really wish people would learn more about technologies like pihole. Get the ad once, get the hyperlink, add it to blacklist.

BaroqueInMind ,

Ironically, I wish people including yourself knew more about shit like how PiHole/RaspPi simply leverage Unbound, which is not unique to only Pi software or Pi devices. You can do this same thing on any OS that has it installed.

djsaskdja ,

Does it have a GUI or is it CLI only?

zer0squar3d ,

GUI and cli, however, has no where near the options pihole or adguardhome have; my limited experience is with it in opnsense, so by far isn't complete but I disable it and forward everything to adguardhome.

What it can do in opnsense (for an example of what can be done with it, blocklist near bottom): https://docs.opnsense.org/manual/unbound.html

Netrunner ,
@Netrunner@programming.dev avatar

Adblock is more than just a DNS sink.

morrowind ,
@morrowind@lemmy.ml avatar

Until that ad also happens to be for a legitimate website you want to visit. I'd rather have a adblocker I can change right there in the website

cheddar ,
@cheddar@programming.dev avatar

That's a very rare case, and you can whitelist a domain using the pihole's web interface. It may require extra two clicks, but I had to do that maybe twice in the last year.

SpaceCadet ,
@SpaceCadet@feddit.nl avatar

I run a pihole as well, but it is a very rudimentary tool compared to browser based adblockers like uBlock origin. It can only block DNS queries, and can't for example block ads if they are served from the same domain as the main site (i.e. youtube) or block specific elements on a page or block a specific script from running.

StaySquared ,

can’t for example block ads if they are served from the same domain as the main site (i.e. youtube) or block specific elements on a page or block a specific script from running.

Yeah that's true.

ColdWater ,
@ColdWater@lemmy.ca avatar

Too much effort for pretty much everything that normal AdBlock already did

StaySquared ,

But it's worth it.. pretty much can block anything and everything across the entire network - on all endpoints.

FeelThePower , to Technology in Here's what's happening to ad blockers in Google Chrome (and other browsers)
@FeelThePower@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

This finally made all my Chrome friends switch to the fox. about time

mrgreyeyes ,

I mean it's just a browser. Bit of fiddling with the saved password and your go to go again to never look back. If they value their users they will improve again like Firefox did in the background over years.

I only hope a good search engine will appear again. I don't like the alternatives.

dustyData ,

If you are smart, you have a password manager that you login once then everything is there and ready to login to every single account instantly.

Veneroso ,

I have been using swisscows for about a month.
It's no Google... But it seems to be better than what Google is now......

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