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Floon , to Technology in The problem with GIMP

The name holds it back more than you know. No EP or AD wants to put "The GIMP" on their software list for a project. I have to have a conversation with someone ensuring we're good on all our licenses, and they ask, "What is this GIMP thing?" Answering it makes me sound like an unprofessional jackass. The company would rather just pay Adobe.

ultratiem ,
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I don’t even want to tell people I use it because of its name. I would never bring it up in a work setting in this day and age when I look at Slack and see everyone list their pronouns.

The fact they haven’t clued into this is just wild to me. A shame it throws the work of so many people under the bus.

Also, to call it after the Pulp Fiction character is insane to me. Let alone that everyone on the team signed off on it. What were the second choices? Diarrhea? Herpes? Like dafuq.

beefbot ,

It reeks of 12 year old boy saying “FART” to make his friends laugh

ultratiem ,
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Or some edgelord trying to get people to watch 2 girls 1 cup back in the day. The scene in the movie was deeply disturbing. It actually made my partner at the time cry because she had been SAed before. Even for me, I did not enjoy and while the movie was amazing, the scene only took away from the film (I know the entire thing was hyper violent and disturbing).

I can’t even imagine referring to it let alone thinking back on it fondly. I always thought GIMP was an acronym. This news shook me because I’m actually on the contributor list.

Also, I would never admit its origin in this day and age. I’m still in shock learning this!

DavidDoesLemmy ,
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I guess you can't quantify how much the name has helped it. How many people remember it because of its quirky name. Without knowing both numbers it's hard to know if it's a net positive or negative.

Martineski ,

Meanwhile I still don't know what gimp is besides it being a graphics software.

Liz ,

A gimp is any of the following:

  1. A cripple
  2. A particular kind of BDSM role
  3. Twisted silk, worsted, or cotton with cord or wire running through it, used chiefly as upholstery trimming.
  4. (in lacemaking) coarser thread which forms the outline of the design in some techniques.
  5. fishing line made of silk bound with wire.

The last three I got from the internet.

Martineski ,

Ok, now the name is actually weird.

reka ,

"Eww, like the coarser thread which forms the outline of the design in some lacemaking techniques!? That is just a bit gross don't you think?"

Mint ,

Gimp is a slur for people with physical disabilities in the UK at least

Liz ,

It's kinda a slur in the US in the sense that people claim it's a slur, but I've never heard anyone actually use it that way.

ultratiem ,
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Same in Canada and the US. If someone calls you a gimp, it’s a derogatory term that belittles your physical abilities.

ultratiem ,
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No one. No one remembers it fondly because it’s got a “quirky” name. That’s not how software works. People use software because it’s useful. Not because it’s edgy or has memorable branding. I would rather a competent design tool period. The name is irrelevant. We aren't selling cookies or an energy drink. We are empowering people to get things done. You think your spoon with a hole in it is going to sell because you call it “Faggot”?

chicagohuman ,

It should be renamed to GLIMPSE. Gnu/Linux Image Manipulation Program Special Edition

ultratiem ,
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YES! 👏👏

baggins ,
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This. No amount of excuses or lengthy explanations. It's childish and unprofessional.

state_electrician ,

Most of the world does not have English as a first language and thus the meaning of the word "gimp" is not widely known. Personally I do agree that the name is dumb, but it's a very English as a first language issue. My daughter is learning to do basic stuff with GIMP in school because it's free. The name is not an issue because nobody knows what a gimp is.

_MusicJunkie ,

I'll use the cliche meme of "I was today years old when I learned where the name comes from". Just made the connection when I read this article, and I love Pulp Fiction.

But I too am not a native English speaker. Just always accepted the clunky acronym as the reason for the name.

reka , to Technology in The problem with GIMP

The simple solution is to change it to a BSD license and call it BLIMP

sanzky , to Technology in The problem with GIMP

Curious. I always imagined it was a reference to the folklore create 'Imp'.

Treczoks ,

GNU Image Manipulation Program (or Project)

darkphotonstudio , (edited ) to Technology in The problem with GIMP

Krita has mostly left GIMP in the dust, as far as UI and basic tools. The brush engine and ability to handle large files is so much better. It's vector and text tools need work, and so do the image filters and such. Even so, Krita destroys GIMP. Even the name, which isn't great, is leagues better.

SuperSpruce , (edited ) to Technology in The problem with GIMP

I never knew the word was used as a slur or had sexual connotations. I thought it was a verb akin to "nerf" or "cripple", as in "Windows 11 gimped the taskbar functionality." I guess this word is still bad, as I want to enhance, not "gimp," my pictures.

Sparky , to Technology in Here's what's happening to ad blockers in Google Chrome (and other browsers)
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555 ,
sugar_in_your_tea ,

Eh, on Linux, it's probably in your package manager, and likely already installed. Just be careful with Ubuntu since they use snaps.

555 ,

Be careful?

sugar_in_your_tea ,

Firefox auto-updates with the snap version, whereas it doesn't with most package manager versions. So if it updates while you're using it, it won't let you open new tabs without restarting it (Firefox, not the machine), which can interrupt your workflow. On other distros, that only happens when installing updates manually, which isn't an issue because you're aware of it.

This is second hand info though since I don't use Ubuntu, so YMMV.

Veraxus ,

Nonsense like this is why I no longer use Ubuntu (or anything else downstream of Canonical, or anything with Snaps).

PoolloverNathan ,

nix run nixpkgs#firefox

ayaya ,
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skybox ,

https://floorp.app/
Been lovin this fork solely because the vertical tab bar integration is awesome.

9point6 , to Technology in Here's what's happening to ad blockers in Google Chrome (and other browsers)

Run a pihole or similar

Your web browser is just one piece of software on your network capable of displaying ads and collecting data

uzay ,

Network-level adblock cannot replace browser-level adblock and vice versa

DarkDarkHouse ,
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Both… both is good

xyz1195 ,

I'm a bit clueless when it comes to that but certainly interested. Could you maybe go into more detail as to which hardware and software is needed to set that up?

Thanks much in advance!

9point6 ,

So the main software is here https://pi-hole.net/ (and they have good documentation, so I'm not going to repeat the nitty-gritty here)

You obviously need something to run it on, which could be some existing computer that's always on, but (as the name might suggest) a lot of people use some form of Raspberry Pi (or similar) single-board computer.

Pihole will run on basically anything, so you can get an ancient pi and it will still run fine

MentorKitten ,

I thought this requires permission to a router. Can you do this say at a dorm or an apartment where internet is provided for you through a portal

PotatoesFall ,

Another user commented that you can run Unbound (the technology used by pihole) on your machine.

Even easier, configure your device to use an ad block DNS resolver. Control D has free ones: https://controld.com/free-dns

Megaman_EXE , to Technology in Here's what's happening to ad blockers in Google Chrome (and other browsers)

This was an insightful read. Thanks for sharing!

theangriestbird , to Technology in Here's what's happening to ad blockers in Google Chrome (and other browsers)
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Great explainer about the changes, and reasons why it actually behooves Google to continue to allow ad blockers in some form. All that said...this still reaffirms my decision to go Firefox, always and forever, to get the most complete privacy options.

remington Mod ,
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I've used Firefox for so many years...can't remember precisely. If there was a better option, then I'd be open to it.

ryannathans ,

Only better option I can think of is not using the web

joel ,

Yeah same, its been almost 10 years for me. I briefly tried other options like brave, but kept coming back to Firefox

JackGreenEarth ,
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Safari/GNOME Web just added extension support.

kbin_space_program , to Technology in Here's what's happening to ad blockers in Google Chrome (and other browsers)

What a garbage article. Chock full of google propaganda and fear mongering.

555 ,

What’s Google?

sugar_in_your_tea ,

A misspelling of googol, which means 10^100^.

corbin OP ,

What specifically is "google propaganda and fear mongering" in the article?

kbin_space_program ,

Mentions UBlock seems.to be fast and safe, but that the API used lets extensions look at everything you do amd can dramatically affect browser speed. Implying that UBlock Origin is responsible for Chrome being such a memory Hog and that they, not Google, are the ones after your data.

corbin OP ,

Except the part where it didn't imply that at all?

That performance cost seems to be negligible in uBlock Origin and other popular ad blockers that have focused on optimization (uBO has an explainer wiki page), but there were probably other extensions not doing that well. It’s not hard to see a situation where multiple poorly-optimized extensions installed using the Web Request API could dramatically slow down Chrome, and the user would have no way of knowing the issue.

Deebster ,

That performance cost seems to be negligible in uBlock Origin and other popular ad blockers that have focused on optimization [...], but there were probably other extensions not doing that well.

The article goes out of its way to not do what you're accusing it of. I don't understand how you've managed to read the article as having the opposite slant as what it actually does.

far_university1990 ,

I don’t think that’s necessarily the case: Google knows as well as I do that a total crackdown would give governments like the European Union and United States more ammo for antitrust lawsuits.

They do not care, never have, never will. Cost of operation.

It would also be a motivator for more people to switch browsers, which would weaken Google’s browser monopoly.

Not enough even care that would make noticable difference in market share.

A lot of people were upset 23 years ago when Windows ME removed real mode DOS, too.

And they all stopped using it, right? Right?

The new Declarative Net Request API is still a downgrade in capability compared to the older API, but the feature gap has closed significantly.

Chrome now allows extensions to include 100 rule lists, with up to 50 lists active at once. There are also additional filtering options, including an option to have case-insensitive rules, which cuts down on duplicates in filter lists. The maximum number of filter rules now varies by use case — an extension can now have up to 30,000 dynamic rules (filters downloaded by the extension) if they are deemed as “safe” (block, allow, allowAllRequests or upgradeScheme), an additional 5,000 other types of dynamic requests, and more filters included in the extension package.

for context, EasyList is just one of the lists enabled by default in uBlock Origin and other ad blockers, and it has over 75,000 rules.

Can you math? Feature gap almost same as before.

corbin OP ,

That's up to 30K dynamic rules, at least 30K static rules, and at least 1K regex rules: https://developer.chrome.com/docs/extensions/reference/api/declarativeNetRequest#property-GUARANTEED_MINIMUM_STATIC_RULES

That seems like it's fine for general use, and those limits might go up again. EasyList and the other big lists can be consolidated to varying degrees with Chrome's rules format, and there's probably some dead rules in there. uBlock Origin on Firefox will definitely be more versatile moving forward, but every time I've used uBlock Origin Lite in Chrome it's almost the same experience.

far_university1990 ,

Why even make limit at all? Should not have any.

EasyList and the other big lists can be consolidated to varying degrees with Chrome's rules format

Source? Or you just assume they can? What about specific list? List by small maintainer?

Not convinced feature gap any better yet just by slightly higher number and not said real number and vague „can compress list“.

Also, until Hill say satisfied with api or proven it enough to fight google head on in adblock war, not think good enough.

Imgonnatrythis ,

Seemed pretty level headed and surprisingly well written to me.

Voroxpete , to Technology in Here's what's happening to ad blockers in Google Chrome (and other browsers)

(and other browsers)

... that aren't Firefox.

corbin OP ,

The article talks about Firefox too.

jeena , to Technology in Here's what's happening to ad blockers in Google Chrome (and other browsers)
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uBlock Origin for Chrome has over 34 million installations according to the Chrome Web Store

Oh wow, that is very surprising to me. I somehow expected a billion of installations. Especially when I saw the screenshots without it in the article, how can anyone browse the web without it?

LordWiggle ,
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There are other ad block options. And there is Firefox. I use Vivaldi browser, it has a built-in ad blocker, just like many other browsers. I just wish Vivaldi would be Firefox based.

corbin OP ,

Adblock users are still a statistical minority of web users. Most people don’t care (as evidenced by Netflix’s ad tier gaining subscribers every quarter) or don’t know those extensions exist.

chirospasm , to Technology in Here's what's happening to ad blockers in Google Chrome (and other browsers)

TL;DR use FF

corbin OP , to Technology in Here's what's happening to ad blockers in Google Chrome (and other browsers)

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Hugh_Jeggs ,

I didn't even click the article. Here's Why -

Scotty_Trees ,
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They only have 40 posts so I gave them a follow. It's when accounts have like 10k posts and an account is less than a year old that I won't follow them, I don't need that noise.

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