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Asidonhopo , to World News in Biden condemns university antiwar protests, says 'Order must prevail'
@Asidonhopo@lemmy.world avatar

He's gonna sign that antisemitism bill isn't he?

Omegamanthethird , to World News in Biden condemns university antiwar protests, says 'Order must prevail'
@Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world avatar

President condemns illegal activity and antisemitism, supports protests. I'd be surprised by anything else.

swiftcasty , to World News in Biden condemns university antiwar protests, says 'Order must prevail'

“Violent protest is not protected — peaceful protest is," the president said. "It’s against the law when violence occurs. Destroying property is not a peaceful protest."

The president also said “no” to a separate shouted question asking whether he thinks the National Guard should intervene in the campus protests.

The President is condemning violent protest and destruction of property here. It is still disheartening that this hasn’t changed his stance on Israel/Palestine.

veniasilente ,

Do note the Violent protesters" and "destructors of property" are the zionist infiltrators, not the antigenocide protesters. But Biden is so old, apparently everyone look the same to him.

PlainSimpleGarak ,

You people always make the same excuses.

"No! It's not the people I align with who are violent! It's the paid actors! No, it's the Feds!"

You have absolutely no evidence that all of the violence is being committed by "zionist infiltrators".

frauddogg ,
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Shut the fuck up, collaborator.

Ram_The_Manparts , to World News in Biden condemns university antiwar protests, says 'Order must prevail'
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Ordnung!

BruceTwarzen ,

Muss!

PolandIsAStateOfMind ,
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Sein!

Silverseren , to World News in Biden condemns university antiwar protests, says 'Order must prevail'

"We do not need allies more devoted to order than to justice"
-Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.

Alsephina , to World News in Biden condemns university antiwar protests, says 'Order must prevail'
Pollux ,

But have you considered that those investing in genocide are human too

Mongostein ,

I did! And I came to the conclusion that no, they are not.

frauddogg , to World News in Biden condemns university antiwar protests, says 'Order must prevail'
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Death to Amerika, death to the settlers

NeuronautML , to World News in Biden condemns university antiwar protests, says 'Order must prevail'

What i figure from this is that the only reasons the Democrat party doesn't win more often in the US, is that they're really, really, really bad at their jobs.

Like take Hillary for instance. She only lost because she managed to look more incompetent than Trump. Now Trump is doing his darnest that no one will be more incompetent than him, but by all the starts in the universe, genocide Joe will give him a run for his money

Stay tuned for the election with the worst presidential candidates that the US could produce. It's so embarrassing, i fear my face might freeze in the cringe.

go_go_gadget , (edited )

Scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds. The protests scratched Biden.

Squizzy ,

Can you explain the meaning of this

go_go_gadget , (edited )

Ripping a comment word for word:

Especially when subject to leftist criticism will they suddenly swing hard right. Progressive liberals will take all sorts of quasi-socialist positions, as long as they are arguing with a reactionary under an overarching reactionary climate.

But as we saw with Obama and Clinton, they will easily swing right when offered the most tepid social democratic criticism, let alone fully Marxist ones, if they fall for the propaganda that claims neoliberalism is "adult politics," "reasonable," "centrist." The same people who protested Bush's wars and called for UHC in 2007 were defending Libya and Honduras and attacking UHC in 2016.

Liberals, progressive or reactionary, are consummate opportunists. They have to be, by necessity. If your average worker maintained a consistent set of values and historical vision, we would all be revolutionaries by now. Turning on a dime to talk out both sides your mouth is the only way to uphold a liberal political party's line. "Respectability politics" can only work if people disrespect historical continuity and their own good moral/class sense.

The same day they tell a white supremacist that the police are racist and corrupt and that we need strong social programs, they will tell a leftist that community self policing/armed self defense and serve the people campaigns are ridiculous. To them this hypocrisy is nuance, but to anyone with clear historical vision and class consciousness it's just hypocrisy and a clear sign of how a protofascist develops

https://np.reddit.com/r/communism101/comments/69fohm/what_is_meant_by_scratch_a_liberal_and_a_fascist/

Alsephina , (edited )

https://lemmy.ml/pictrs/image/5781dd7f-899d-4259-8fd4-8c12cddc4a67.webp

Liberals always passively let capitalism decay into fascism, because fascism doesn't harm the capitalist class. When forced to make a choice between organizing to overthrow the capitalist state and letting it decay into fascism, they will always choose fascism.

The Freikorps in Germany for example that hunted down communists, socialists, and trade unionists were already being trained and funded by the government even before the Nazis had ever come into power.

DAMunzy ,

Hilary has negative charisma and being a Democrat woman for her was also a negative. The woman part was the worst.

These are not my feelings about her (well, the negative charisma is) but just my view on why she had little chance versus Don Cheetos.

Leate_Wonceslace , to World News in Biden calls U.S. ally Japan 'xenophobic,' along with China and Russia
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Wait why? I mean he's right, but why?

Jon_Servo , to World News in Biden condemns university antiwar protests, says 'Order must prevail'

The self-licking boot.

ShepherdPie , to World News in Biden calls U.S. ally Japan 'xenophobic,' along with China and Russia

Since he considers them xenophobic, does that mean we're going to start selling 2,000 bombs, fighter jets, and munitions to them?

Cowbee , to World News in Biden condemns university antiwar protests, says 'Order must prevail'
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How dare heroic protesting students stand against genocide.

Fuck off, Biden. Stop the slaughter.

autotldr Bot , to World News in Report finds Nestlé adds sugars to baby food in low-income countries

This is the best summary I could come up with:


And in the Philippines, one serving of a version of the Cerelac cereal for babies 1 to 6 months old contains a whopping 7.3 grams of added sugar, the equivalent of almost two teaspoons.

In the European Region, the World Health Organization guidelines state that no added sugar should be used in foods for infants under the age of 3.

And the National Agency for Food and Drug Administration and Control in Nigeria released a statement in response to the report that said the Nestlé products in the country do adhere to their standards.

A spokesperson for Nestlé told NBC News that the company is working on reducing added sugars worldwide and offers sugar-free products in several countries.

All our early life foods and milks are nutritionally balanced as defined in the commonly accepted scientific guidelines and dietary recommendations, including CODEX.”

Siddiqui said that monetary stressors might also be influencing parents to continue buying  added sugar formulas and baby cereals that their children appear to like.


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IAmLamp ,

I would love it if the auto TL;DR bot would summarize every article about nestle with simply, “Fuck nestle” and save its compute cycles for other news.

videogamesandbeer , to World News in Report finds Nestlé adds sugars to baby food in low-income countries

Fuck Nestle.

givesomefucks ,

Everyone says that. Have been for decades now.

But as long as our major politicians are Republicans and neoliberals, nothing is going to change.

Because their whole economical philosophy is corporations over money and that wealth "trickles down".

You want to do something about Nestle?

Vote progressives, especially ones that eschew corporate donors.

I'm just tired of the vast majority of people being against something,, but (at least for Americans) voting for people who like it.

https://www.opensecrets.org/federal-lobbying/clients/summary?id=D000042332

We need to get rid of the shit show that is American lobbying, and only progressives push for that

RidcullyTheBrown ,

But as long as our major politicians are Republicans and neoliberals, nothing is going to change.

Those poorer countries have governments too. They should be the first line of defense for their citizens. Fuck Nestle and all their products, but the reality is that there's absolutely nothing a foreign power can do to protect the people living in those countries

manucode ,
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You could pass legislation that requires corporations not to do harmful activities in other countries if these activities are illegal in your country. If a corporation does such an activity abroad it would still be prosecuted as a crime in your country. If a corporation doesn't want to subject itself to such accountability, it would have to stop doing business in your country.

NoIWontPickAName ,

We usually have those, our overlords don’t enforce or selectively them.

So , the only halfway effective method we have is to not give them our money.

Is it super effective? Nah

But has it saved them getting probably 10’s of thousands of my dollars over the years.

I miss crunch bars, Kit Kats, stouffers pizzas, and especially tollhouse cookies, but they are baby killers, and one of the worst possible ways to die in to boot.

Fuck em, and do your part even if no one else is

RidcullyTheBrown ,
  1. adding sugar to baby food is not necessarily illegal

  2. there is already legislation which prevents companies from engaging in illegal activities overseas but it's really not efficient since it is so easy to offload any illegal activity to a locally owned company. This is more about human rights abuse and illegal lobbying than product quality control though.

  3. there is nothing forcing multinational corporations to act as a unique global entity when it comes to quality control and any attempt to enforce such legislation would just be quickly sidestepped with local subsidiaries.

Really, the only defense for the locals is the local government. As it should be.

Rivalarrival ,

This.

Nestle products comply with European law in Europe. Nestle products comply with Senegalese law in Senegal. Nestle products comply with South African law in South Africa.

When companies use ingredients that are banned in Europe to produce food for American markets, (brominated vegetable oil, potassium bromate, BHA, BHT, etc), we point the finger at lax American regulators for allowing it. When Nestle produces food for African markets that doesn't meet European standards, we don't blame African regulators.

norbert ,
@norbert@kbin.social avatar

No you don't understand, America = bad. If someone is doing something wrong it must be Americas fault or I must find some way to shoehorn politics into every conversation.

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  • ricecake ,

    Nestle is a swiss company. They do business in the US, but that doesn't make them a US company anymore that Pepsico or Kraft-Heinz are European.

    The US does have immense economic sway, but it's already difficult enough to craft and enforce laws punishing American companies for violating international and certain domestic laws overseas.
    Laws controlling the actions of foreign companies doing business in the US who complied with local laws in a third country in a fashion that violates US dietary norms is going to be very difficult.

    ricecake ,

    Also, I totally get that Evil American Business person is a media trope around the world for a reason, but common, we're not Nestle bad. We have standards.

    The American way is to find a way to monetize breastfeeding. Giving away months worth of product is just inefficient.

    bolexforsoup , (edited )

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    ricecake ,

    clearly you're not up to speed on your American rules of acquisition.
    Rules 523: Never sell at a loss, but reduced profits can be treated like one for advertising.

    Also, it was a joke, albeit one grounded in a hint of truth, since there's a lot of money to be made in selling breastfeeding supplies and supplements.

    Tryptaminev ,

    America and the EU are imposing the economic and political order that gives those companies leverage over small countries and blocks them from consumer protection or worker protection legislation. Heck, the US invaded foreign countries more than once to make sure their companies get to maximize profits, while making the people suffer.

    RidcullyTheBrown ,

    America and the EU are imposing the economic and political order that gives those companies leverage over small countries and blocks them from consumer protection or worker protection legislation.

    What on earth are you on about? The EU lobbies world wide for consumer and worker protection. Where are you getting your info from?

    Tryptaminev ,
    RidcullyTheBrown ,

    have you actually read those links? First is a political statement from 2014 which starts with :

    Germany and Europe contribute large sums of tax money toward various development programmes in Africa, Nooke explained, but the economic agreement with African states cancels out these efforts.

    and it should be easy to see now that the guy was just playing his voters.

    the second one is about britain post brexit

    the 3rd is about the influence of other markets on the quality of products in the EU.

    Which one of those actually proves your point?

    Tryptaminev ,

    Free trade agreements come through pressure from the west -> free trade agreements provide shadow courts for protecting the interests of companies and their profits against national regulation -> free trade agreements destroy labor markets and consumer protection in the weaker side of the "agreement"

    RidcullyTheBrown ,

    that's a ridiculously superficial take on free trade agreements. And since 10 years have passed since then, you should be able to show some evidence of that happening, but you can't.

    floofloof ,

    Corporations do depend on money, so every bit of money you don't give to Nestlé reduces their power just a tiny bit. Nestlé is a difficult company to boycott though, because they own so many brands.

    Reverendender ,
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    Most of their brands are crap products though. I'm sure I'm not 100% successful,but I mostly cook my own fresh foods, and if you eliminate most of the processed "food" from your diet, its a great big step. I still eat cheetos and pork rinds and potato chips though.

    bolexforsoup , (edited )

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    Reverendender ,
    @Reverendender@sh.itjust.works avatar

    JIF is delicious! And I gave it up because of all the palm oil. Now it's Teddie for me!

    Tryptaminev ,

    There was a great John Oliver episode about how Cigarettes are sold in African and South Asian countries. Any effort to regulate the market, like introducing warning labels, limiting tobacco ads, or even just disallowing the sale of individual cigarettes in front of schools, was immediately met with huge backlashes by big tobacco.

    If your countries GDP is 5 Billion US-D and Phil Morris has a turnover of 80 Billions US-D plus the lobbying power to have the US or EU threaten sanctions against that country, it is pretty darn difficult to provide the same level of consumer protection laws.

    Don't blame the countries that are on the short end of neocolonialism, when your government is complicit in it.

    NoIWontPickAName ,

    Incorrect.

    You blame everyone involved in the bad things they are doing and do your best to hold them responsible.

    Tryptaminev ,

    You can only hold people responsible for things they actually have the power to decide on. But if they tried and they are pressured not to change something then the blame lies solely with the people that pressure them.

    NoIWontPickAName ,

    Everyone has the choice not to do something, even if their only other choice is death.

    You wouldn’t accept that reasoning for other causes, you would say they shouldn’t support it at all.

    This is no different than the Israelis trying to blame everything they are doing on hummus.

    You pulled the trigger, you are responsible.

    Hell, you spray the graffiti protesting against something, you are still responsible.

    You can’t just pretend someone else is making you do something.

    It takes all the integrity out of what you are doing.

    It’s like these kids who are catching a record and getting charged.

    Should they be charged? I don’t think so. Maybe the ones who were supposedly holding a janitor against their will, I haven’t seen anything proving that yet though so…

    The impressiveness of protest is people standing together and saying this is wrong and we are willing to do this to affect change.

    If there’s no consequence, it’s no where near as impressive.

    If you are trying to show people how important your cause is, German shepherds and water cannons, show dedication.

    Immediately begging to get your record cleared, shows you don’t, to me at least anyway.

    If you aren’t willing to deal with the consequences, which is perfectly reasonable, don’t let it get to that part, it shows weakness.

    Just walk away at that part so they don’t get the pr win.

    ABCDE ,

    Everyone has the choice not to do something, even if their only other choice is death.

    This is as far as I got.

    NoIWontPickAName ,

    TLDR: Everyone is responsible for their own actions

    Tryptaminev ,

    These are completely different and not even remotely comparable situations.

    But to see the only similarity to Israels genocide: The worst criminals are sitting on their desks and organize in the background. They must be held accountable too. And in the context of trade agreements and consumer protection in African countries those criminals are the western institutions and lobby groups.

    NoIWontPickAName ,

    If I pressure you to kill your child or yourself and you choose to kill your child, do you bear no responsibility?

    ILikeBoobies ,

    Those poorer countries can’t

    I wish I could find it but there was a palm oil company that was banned from an island and they just ignored it

    RidcullyTheBrown ,

    Nestle most probably just buys local factories which already produce this crap and rebrands it. Even if Nestle would be forbidden from doing business in those countries, the locals would not be any better off. They really need their authorities to step in. There's no other way.

    givesomefucks ,

    Sanctions.

    If America told Nestle and other corporations that if you're committing human rights abuses anywhere, you're not welcome in our markets.

    It's not some impossible thing.

    It's just something that isn't possible till we have politicians who represent voters more than corporations.

    We need progressive majorities for that. But shit can be better

    RidcullyTheBrown ,

    this article is not about acts of human rights abuse, is it?

    bolexforsoup ,

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  • Blueberrydreamer ,

    The majority of the current 'democrat' party in the US are Neoliberals. Yeah it's a right wing ideology, that's the whole point of recognizing that even the 'left wing' here are still primarily conservatives.

    Salix , (edited )

    I am confused why you're talking about USA. The article doesn't mention USA, and Nestle is a Swiss company.

    I mean, better regulations in the US would be great though

    givesomefucks ,

    Because America is where they do a lot of shady shit....

    If America threatened to cut Nestle off from the American market they would break their backs bending over for whatever we asked.

    Other countries have more people, but don't spend as much money. Other countries have more money, but don't buy garbage food.

    America is Nestle's ideal market, and they have large monopolies.

    Salix ,

    I guess looking at their official 2023 report, it does look like they make a lot in the North American Zone (Canada, US, Mexico) compared to other zones.

    Linkerbaan ,
    @Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

    All my homies hate Nestle

    NoIWontPickAName ,

    I told my kid no to some nestle brand of bottled water and explained to him why in the water aisle at Walmart and I met a random who congratulated me on knowing and rejecting them.

    We exist, and there are enough of us, that I pulled a random in a town of less than 20,000!

    Blackout , to World News in Report finds Nestlé adds sugars to baby food in low-income countries
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    If you can commit an evil with food or water rest assured, Nestle® is on it.

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