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theacharnian , to World News in China's representative points out at the ICJ that armed resistance against occupation is enshrined in international law and is not terrorism.

Just don't mention Tibet.

yogthos OP ,
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theacharnian ,

If being reactionary meant relinquishing the right to national self determination, the Israelis would be justified in opposing a free Palestine on the basis of Hamas being salafist shits. But they are not because it does not.

yogthos OP ,
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If you can't understand the sheer absurdity of your comment, there's really no helping you.

bennieandthez ,
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Surely upholding the slaver tibetan aristocratic class was the tibetan people wishes 😂

crazyCat ,

Also see:

  • Hong Kong
  • Xinjiang
brain_in_a_box ,

Lol

yogthos OP ,
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Yes, see people HK and Xinjiang live free and peaceful lives unlike people suffering under western dictatorships of capital.

davel ,
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Hong Kong

The UK’s 99 year imperialist lease was up, thus marking the end of the century of humiliation for the people of Hong Kong.

Xinjiang

The US tried to foment division in China by funding and organizing terrorist cells in Xinjiang, and when those efforts failed it concocted and promoted a genocide narrative. Antony Blinken is still pushing this slop, just last week.

We see here for example the evolution of public opinion in regards to China. In 2019, the ‘Uyghur genocide’ was broken by the media (Buzzfeed, of all outlets). In this story, we saw the machine I described up until now move in real time. Suddenly, newspapers, TV, websites were all flooded with stories about the ‘genocide’, all day, every day. People whom we’d never heard of before were brought in as experts — Adrian Zenz, to name just one; a man who does not even speak a word of Chinese.

Organizations were suddenly becoming very active and important. The World Uyghur Congress, a very serious-sounding NGO, is actually an NED Front operating out of Germany […]. From their official website, they declare themselves to be the sole legitimate representative of all Uyghurs — presumably not having asked Uyghurs in Xinjiang what they thought about that.

The WUC also has ties to the Grey Wolves, a fascist paramilitary group in Turkey, through the father of their founder, Isa Yusuf Alptekin.

Documents came out from NGOs to further legitimize the media reporting. This is how a report from the very professional-sounding China Human Rights Defenders (CHRD) came to exist. They claimed ‘up to 1.3 million’ Uyghurs were imprisoned in camps. What they didn’t say was how they got this number: they interviewed a total of 10 people from rural Xinjiang and asked them to estimate how many people might have been taken away. They then extrapolated the guesstimates they got and arrived at the 1.3 million figure.

Sanctions were enacted against China — Xinjiang cotton for example had trouble finding buyers after Western companies were pressured into boycotting it. Instead of helping fight against the purported genocide, this act actually made life more difficult for the people of Xinjiang who depend on this trade for their livelihood (as we all do depend on our skills to make a livelihood).

Any attempt China made to defend itself was met with more suspicion. They invited a UN delegation which was blocked by the US. The delegation eventually made it there, but three years later. The Arab League also visited Xinjiang and actually commended China on their policies — aimed at reducing terrorism through education and social integration, not through bombing like we tend to do in the West.

Alsephina ,

Br*tish control over Hong Kong is finally over, what are you talking about?

Drusas , to World News in China's representative points out at the ICJ that armed resistance against occupation is enshrined in international law and is not terrorism.

So they're supporting Ukraine now?

carl_marks_1312 ,
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They've been supporting Ukraine since the first day and been encouraging peace talks. China is one of their biggest trading partners and it's in their interest. China hasn't been sending weapons because that's just putting fuel into the fire. And they also didn't do sanctions against Russia, because those haven't been decided by the UN.

queermunist ,
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China is very consistent on this issue bud.

I know that's hard to believe when everyone else is so craven and two faced, but you should educate yourself on these topics before speaking.

LarkinDePark ,

The breakaway regions you mean?

Alsephina , (edited )

If not they really should start supporting the DPR and LPR against the post-2014 coup's fascist government

Zoboomafoo ,
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If by supporting Ukraine you mean sending Russia weapons components, yes

freagle ,

Reading comprehension fail. China has never said the Ukrainian resistance is illegal under international law.

tiredturtle ,

They kinda pretend to play both sides, kinda not. Left hand says peace talks (without action and on Russia's terms), right hand helps Russia with resources.

nekandro ,

The right to resistance does not make occupation illegal. China is simply saying that Ukraine should be allowed to fight back just as Palestine should be allowed to fight back.

redcalcium , to World News in U.S. police have arrested more protesters in just two weeks, than the Hong Kong police arrested in four violent months in 2019.

Protesters violently storming US capitol

US police: I sleep

Protesters peacefully protesting Israel

US police: real shit

DancingBear ,

Which is really weird because they are generally anti Israel nazis and racists

Cowbee ,
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Chuds support Israel unquestioningly.

DancingBear ,

What is a chud please excuse my ignorance

Cowbee ,
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Derogatory term for a conservative.

yogthos OP ,
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cannibalistic humanoid underground dweller https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C.H.U.D.

billgamesh ,

Nah. They're normally anti jewish people. Pro nationalism, but still racist.

goferking0 ,

Why would they arrest coworkers at the capital?

rxbudian ,

It's because they know it's less likely that they get hurt in peaceful protest and they're more likely to die when protesters are ready to respond with violence and weapons.

EndOfLine , (edited ) to World News in U.S. police have arrested more protesters in just two weeks, than the Hong Kong police arrested in four violent months in 2019.
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Does anybody know where they getting the numbers for this claim? I see that they cited "Associated Press and other sources" for the US protest arrest numbers, but no source for Hong Kong protest arrests numbers.

I would like to find some corroboration for this claim and all I can find for Hong Kong is a count of deaths, injuries, arrests, and charges once public protests had effectively ceased.

CosmicTurtle0 ,

My other question is whether the numbers for HK protests are low because, well, it's fucking China, and two that they weren't out there to take names. They were there to destroy people's will.

pingveno ,

For the Associated Press, 2,300 arrests.

The numbers I'm seeing for Hong Kong are in excess of 10,000 in connection with the protests, but those protests lasted for a lot longer (20 months) and were much larger. Millions marched, representing a large portion of the population. The video specifically selected a semi-arbitrary time frame of several months. I guess the idea is to select a slice of the time frame of the Hong Kong protests that produced 2,300 arrests?

The protests in the US just haven't been comparable in size or length. And there is where the comparison is going to be awkward. These sorts of protests have a history of burning themselves out fairly quickly in the US. I remember Occupy Wall Street and its spin offs lasted a few months, made its mark, but kind of fizzled. The BLM/George Floyd protests of 2020 had the same thing happen. Not that Occupy or BLM themselves died, but the clashes that were driving arrests ended. So in the end, I'm not really sure what the comparison with Hong Kong was supposed to show.

IbnLemmy , to World News in U.S. police have arrested more protesters in just two weeks, than the Hong Kong police arrested in four violent months in 2019.

Now that's a stat

taladar , to World News in U.S. police have arrested more protesters in just two weeks, than the Hong Kong police arrested in four violent months in 2019.

Not that it is not worrying that peaceful protesters are arrested but but 2 months are just roughly 4 times two weeks while Hong Kong's population (7.35 million) is just 1/45th of the US population (333 million).

pingveno ,

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  • yogthos OP ,
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    Is there anything more liberal than pearl clutching about property damage when your regime is actively participating a literal genocide.

    bradorsomething ,

    That is so much like a precision air strike on a home, you must be devastated. I’m so sorry for your loss.

    Pili ,

    I think it would be more accurate to look at the size of the protests, because not the entire population is out protesting.

    wildbus8979 , to World News in U.S. police have arrested more protesters in just two weeks, than the Hong Kong police arrested in four violent months in 2019.
    complicutie ,
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    this makes me sick

    doubtingtammy ,

    A handful of protests aren't gonna rattle genocide joe

    iammike , to Programmer Humor in Exactly how I feel whenever I use SSH

    The fine line between ssh and lsd

    hansl ,

    sshd

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