My intent was to alert Jazz-haters to a style of jazz unlike the stuff they think of when they hear what most people consider jazz. (In hindsight, I could see where that mighta come off dickish. My bad.)
See, that's my actual opinion, also. But I'm not sure if it's objectively correct. The speed of upvoting on this meme makes me think I'm not wrong, though.
Jazz has developed for over 100 years by now. If a game soundtrack is "jazzy", it's probably in the "easy listening" corner. But there aregwere hardcore musicians who tried to invent new things in the genre.
Imagine only ever playing 2D Mario games and someone shows you Dark Souls. Yeah, it's not really easy to get into when you haven't grown into the medium. But that doesn't mean both aren't valuable.
If a game soundtrack is “jazzy”, it’s probably in the “easy listening” corner
You have literally no idea what you're talking about.
Go and google the soundtrack for "Bully." Observe the funk/jazz fusion of genius composer and performer Shawn Lee. Then come back and say: "I'm sorry, I shouldn't have opened my mouth when I didn't know what I was talking about."
I'm not talking about jazz-ish soudntracks. I'm not talking about jazz-like soundtracks. These soundtracks are ACTUAL JAZZ. They just happen to be on videogame soundtracks. Now, the meme is funny because it seems that jazz goes with videogames, even when you're exposing it to people who generally don't listen to jazz.
But, again, don't fucking talk about shit that you don't know about.
EDIT: also, there's no way to disgust me faster than "hey, the music I listen to is awesome because of how hard it is to listen to it." Fucking gross. Get out of here with that snob shit, man. I can't even tell if you're trolling.
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Imagine only ever playing 2D Mario games
Uh-huh. And you think those can't get turbo-difficult? That's another thing you don't know about, but you've got no problem talking about, anyway. Go take a look at the Mario romhack scene. The harder levels in that scene will make any of your "git gud" Souls-like players cry like babies.
I understood fine. There's no way to misunderstand snob-ass comments like:
"jazzy," in the "easy listening" corner.
You're being a fucking snob and now you're salty because I'm calling you out on it.
Music being hard to listen to doesn't mean it's good. But being "better than the average peasants at listening to music" is probably one of the few things you think you've got going for you. So you're obviously not going to let it go, just because I pointed out how pathetic it is.
Exasperation at what? People enjoying things that are too "low level" for him to accept, without registering his disdain? People knowing stuff that maybe he doesn't know?
That's something to get fucking exasperated about?
Why can't YOU just admit that he was a fucking snob?
I realize HE never will, but that's what snobs do. They will never, ever admit what they are, because they have substituted incredibly specific preferences in place of an actual personality. They've got nowhere to run. They have to keep pretending that they're correct, for the whole of their natural lives.
But you don't have to fucking defend them. I can't think of anything more pathetic than white-knighting for snobs.
Ohhhhh, okay. I was pretty confused, actually. Sorry.
That's the problem with being a naturally angry person. When something confuses me, but also could be annoying as fuck, I don't start with the "maybe this is a mistake" option.
I think it's less "good jazz," and more 'jazz that fits the mood.'
I don't want to listen to thrasher metal when I'm sitting in an italian restaurant, introducing my date to the family, and I don't want to listen to jazz when it's inappropriate.* I remember reading the blog of the Doom soundtrack, and he talked about the difficulty in creating soundtracks because you have to take music that was meshed to visual, auditory, and psychological happenings and create 'just' a piece. Going the other way, how difficult must it be to take musical compositions and match them well to gameplay... it blows my mind that there are people out there who do it so well, because there are definitely games that I loved because it was just a perfect combo, and others where they were saved from mediocrity with the addition of the right sound.
*Aside, I was trying to think an example of when jazz in a game was inappropriate, and couldn't. Take from that what you will.
You're not wrong. If the concurrent player count had dropped by 99% on announcement and stayed there for a week with no new sales it would have sent a message at least. But you remember the "shitstorm" around Hogwarts Legacy? 850 million in the first two weeks regardless 🤷♀️ that's the kind of shitstorm most would weather gladly, I'd bet.
But hey, you need blameless developers doxxed and threatened, gamers are your best option every time! Heheh yeah up top 🙌
And I mean, unlike the Hogwarts Legacy situation, this shit has a simple and 100 percent effective remedy.
Sony's asking for everyone's email address? Okay. EVERYONE give them throwaway email addresses, and NEVER interact with any of their mailing list garbage, or do anything else with those PSN accounts.
Let them have a huge list of completely worthless email addresses. There is no downside to letting them choke on that shit.
Like I said in another comment, there should be a continued campaign of everyone ALWAYS giving out throwaway email addresses that they never use to do anything other than sign up for the free shit, and nothing else.
Keep that up for long enough, and eventually the value of these bulk lists of email addresses will plummet to functionally zero. And that will mean less corporate nonsense, at least of that kind. And less attempts to hack companies for their email lists. I mean, why commit a federal crime, to obtain worthless data?
The funniest thing to me is that this lot will even admit that the Steam page said a Sony account was required from the beginning, even though it actually wasn't initially. Nobody got bait-and-switched, they either didn't pay attention or they think the temporary reprieve should have been permanent with absolutely nothing to justify that position. "It's not necessary!" is a shit argument, they said it would be and the game got bought anyway.
Though I'd say Hogwarts Legacy had an equally simple solution: people could have just not fuckin bought it. At least, waited a year. Fuck it, a month would have been enough. One month, zero sales. Fuckin ow, right? But no, kiddos gotta have their shinies. I still haven't bought that game, so I guess I accidentally did a better job of protesting than all the people screaming who went and preordered it 🤷♀️
Screaming is cathartic but doesn't effect change; you need action for that.
There's a huge back-and-forth going on right now, with people claiming Sony changed the fine print, and so it is bait-and-switch, and it just devolves into absolute fucking nonsense. It's like on South Park, when the crowd of townspeople are all yelling "RABBLE-RABBLE-RABBLE-RABBLE."
Screaming is cathartic but doesn’t effect change; you need action for that.
Exactly. And in this case, we can all have our cake and eat it, too. My point about Hogwarts was that people would still have to make a decision about buying it or not. But with Helldivers 2, there's ABSOLUTELY NO REASON FOR A BOYCOTT.
We all just have to give Sony email addresses that we don't care about. That will harm Sony's PR bullshit-artists, while continuing to reward the ACTUAL ARTISTS who made this game.
I mean, I saw people on Reddit talking about how Sony's response will be to make sure Helldivers 3 never happens. Well, if these people succeed in organizing a boycott of Helldivers 2, that IS TOTALLY WHAT WILL HAPPEN. Do they think Sony will give another dumptruck full of money to this studio, if they know the next game won't sell?
People are acting like it's the principle of the thing, because "Sony lied to us." Even if that's true, it doesn't matter. Corporations are always going to lie to you. When the lie is "maybe we technically said we didn't need you to give us any random email address, but now we've decided we do need an email address," just give them the stupid email address.
Take the win. It will literally cost them money to store that worthless data.
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