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DestroyMegacorps , to memes in Get rid of those angry, masculine mannerisms

Doesnt this come free when you buy a second hand thinkpad?

CheesyCheese1 OP ,

Sadly not, I would've bought many thinkpads if it did.

DestroyMegacorps ,

Atleast thinkpads are the femboy and transgender laptop :3

Neon , to memes in Get rid of those angry, masculine mannerisms

feminize me, daddy

CheesyCheese1 OP ,

*Mommy

Loki , to memes in Get rid of those angry, masculine mannerisms
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This reads as casually sexist towards both men and women. Agression? Luscious hair? This isn't really a meme, this is just "man bad, (idealised) woman good", that's neither funny nor relatable

Soulg ,

It absolutely reeks of an /r/egg_irl femcel, especially their comments through the rest of the thread.

Draconic_NEO ,
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Yeah they're definitely giving egg_irl vibes, I don't know what femcel is though, is that something else like egg_irl?

Soulg ,

A femcel is a female incel

Draconic_NEO ,
@Draconic_NEO@lemmy.world avatar

I guess that makes sense, I don't really get why it needs a separate word though.

Soulg ,

I didn't coin it, but they're different in a few different ways. Plus, typically part of the problem with incels is the rampant misogyny, but with femcels it tends to be more misandry

Draconic_NEO ,
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Ah I see. That makes sense.

rustyfish , to memes in Get rid of those angry, masculine mannerisms
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Ability to wear adorable clothes

I already do that. No reason for transitioning.

Fuck social norms.

Fuck the police.

And fuck you.

aggressively flings fluffy scarf over the shoulder

CheesyCheese1 OP ,

I never understood how people get so stuck in-denial, I mean ask yourself, is there really something so wrong with being a girl. Really what is so bad abut that to you that you'll intentionally and repeatedly deny who you are to yourself?
I wish you luck sis and I hope you can come out to yourself and be happy one day.

LovePoson ,
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Clearly you didn't understand anything...

rustyfish ,
@rustyfish@lemmy.world avatar

You are nothing but a troll and I love how the mods do jack shit about it.

CheesyCheese1 OP ,

Lemmy.world sure is full of transphobes and pickmes 🤮, it's just like Reddit.

Honytawk ,

You keep trying to push a narrative, but it just isn't working.

Nobody is falling for your crap.

I'd ask you to go back to Reddit, but Lemmy has this neat feature to block trolls.

mp3 ,
@mp3@lemmy.ca avatar

...are you trying to tell them what their gender should be?

CheesyCheese1 OP ,

This person is clearly in-denial, I'm not saying they should or shouldn't be anything, it's just obvious they aren't entirely cis if you catch my drift.

Oszilloraptor ,

In another comment you clearly stated that femboys are not the same thing as trans.

And now you want to push the transfem label onto a non-afab person just because they admit to wear gender-non-conforming clothes?

CheesyCheese1 OP ,

No I said we aren't femboys, we are women. If someone claims to be a boy and dresses fem it's clear they aren't entirely cis, if they were such act would give them unbelievable gender dysphoria and discomfort.

Oszilloraptor ,

This is a meme about trans women, please don't conflate us with femboys.

Sounds for me like:

"femboys exist, but we are not the same"; not "femboys do not exist. They're just in denial"

(and I do agree with the first; not with the second)

SkyezOpen ,

You just singlehandedly invalidated the gender identity of every cis drag queen. That's impressive.

SkyezOpen ,

Maybe they need therapy to help convert them.

Oh wait.

Maybe let people exist, eh?

CheesyCheese1 OP ,

Don't compare cracking someone's egg to conversion therapy, they are not the same, cracking people's eggs saves lives, it frees them from denial and allows them to be happy as their authentic self. Conversion therapy tries to force people deeper into denial.
This is such a rotten and transphobic argument.

FarmTaco ,

right its so much different when its your opinion you are attempting to bend people to instead of one you disagree with

CheesyCheese1 OP ,

Conversion therapy is transphobia, transphobia isn't an opinion, calling transphobia an opinion is like calling arsenic a flavor.
I'm not trying to bend anyone to anything, I'm just pointing out that they're dressing like a girl, and acting like a girl, put two and two together and you can see where that's going. Is this really that hard for people to understand?

FarmTaco ,

"You are what I say you are, not what you say you are" - thats what you're going with, surprising take.

SkyezOpen ,

You are not the arbiter of who is or is not trans. You are free to help someone come to the realization that they may be trans, but do not invalidate their identity in the process.

Gender expression is a spectrum, and just because someone isn't 100% gender conforming doesn't automatically make them trans.

CheesyCheese1 OP ,

It is not invalidating their identity it is helping discover who they really are, helping them come out of the egg and break the denial that prevents them from being their most legitimate selves.

SkyezOpen ,

It is not invalidating their identity it is helping discover who they really are

Literally indistinguishable from transphobe rhetoric.

AVincentInSpace ,

Not everyone is trans, homesicle. If I take a long hard look at my gender and decide that I'm happier as the man I was born than as a woman, that's my business. Trying to force me into a female body would make me just as miserable as your male one was for you.

Also I couldn't help but notice that you seem to conflate anger as a concept with masculinity.

creditCrazy ,
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At first I thought this was a light hearted shit post but god you talk like a Jehovah's witness

Moneo ,

Any conservatives seeing this thread are having all of their conspiracy theories validated.

Ifera ,

Comments like yours make me wish we had awards, lmao.

OneWomanCreamTeam ,
@OneWomanCreamTeam@sh.itjust.works avatar

Bad troll.

UnfortunateShort , to memes in Get rid of those angry, masculine mannerisms

You know, I fully support converting everyone into fem- and or tomboys, but this is really more of a shitpost than a meme and I hope you can see why it's not exactly received well in c/memes

CheesyCheese1 OP ,

This is a meme about trans women, please don't conflate us with femboys.

riodoro1 , to memes in Get rid of those angry, masculine mannerisms

cry for whatever fucking reason

AgentOrangesicle , to memes in Get rid of those angry, masculine mannerisms
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Give me a tail and we'll talk.

crazyminner , to memes in Get rid of those angry, masculine mannerisms

I need a shirt/sweater like that one!

SuiXi3D , to memes in Get rid of those angry, masculine mannerisms
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So, like, I literally don’t care if someone identifies as whatever gender. You do you.

Just don’t tell me how to do me.

TubularTittyFrog ,

amen

Neato , to memes in Get rid of those angry, masculine mannerisms
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I already have thick and luscious hair. Will E make it even better? Hmm...

CheesyCheese1 OP ,

Only one way to find out UwU

AsherahTheEnd , (edited ) to memes in Get rid of those angry, masculine mannerisms

This gives a very specific kind of trans woman vibe and I don't think I like it. I think it's the "angry masculine mannerisms" that is bothering me. Masc / butch trans women exist too, and it feels weird to imply only men get angry. This seems to simplify and put into a box what being a trans woman is.

Edit: also HRT affects everyone differently and to act like it makes everyone cute and small and feminine is misleading. Being trans is exhausting sometimes and takes a lot of work, and some may never fit this description regardless of how hard they try.

Edit 2: I'm a trans woman myself and I'm nearly 99% sure OP is just a troll at this point. If not, she's seriously making herself look like a moron.

CheesyCheese1 OP ,

Thanks so much I really needed a cis person to explain to me, a trans woman what it really means to be trans /s, fuck off.

AsherahTheEnd ,

Thanks for assuming I'm fucking cis and not a fellow fucking trans woman. Fuck you and fuck your stupid, demeaning "meme". Fucking jerk.

CheesyCheese1 OP ,

You don't fool me, I know a cissy when I see one, "Ally" doesn't count either, nice try there.

AsherahTheEnd ,

I really hope you're just an elaborate troll and not being serious. If you are being serious, seek professional help. If you're just a shitty troll pretending to be trans to try to make us look bad, then truly, sincerely, go fuck yourself. 🥰

CheesyCheese1 OP ,

Ahhh I see, you're a pickme. That's not much better.

AsherahTheEnd ,

I'm in a long term committed relationship with another woman. But go off about how I'm somehow a "pick me". At least I'm not the one telling gender non-conforming trans women that they aren't "real women" because they might be more masc than your ideal 100% fem and perfect trans woman. 🙄 I've also seen your other comments and my gosh you reek of transmed bullshit. You truly don't understand the damage you are doing by posting dumb shit like this and it's depressing as fuck.

AgentOrangesicle ,
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I understand not vibing with the brand of humor, but y'all are coming on a little strong to each other.
I get the misportrayal of masculinity being an issue. This just escalated quickly.

AsherahTheEnd , (edited )

If she hadn't gone from 0 to 100 because of my very light criticism then maybe I'd be a bit more friendly. Her reaction set me off and I know I'm not in the wrong here. Fucking claiming I'm a cis man is a good way of pissing me the fuck off.

Honytawk ,

He*

The guy is clearly a troll.

AsherahTheEnd ,

Don't do that.

CheesyCheese1 OP ,

Here we see, a transphobic pig trying to justify misgendering through name-calling.

SkyezOpen ,

You literally misgendered a trans woman in this thread. What the fuck is you doing.

CheesyCheese1 OP ,

Doesn't count, she is a pickme.

Ifera ,

No true scotsman fallacy, how cute.

CheesyCheese1 OP ,

You think Blair white counts too? You probably would.

AVincentInSpace ,

are you seriously fucking gatekeeping what it means to be trans

riodoro1 ,

So far it seems youre just trying to be annoying. If you didn’t want anyone to tell you anything you could’ve just kept your meme to yourself.

comador , to memes in Get rid of those angry, masculine mannerisms
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No one remembers Metrosexual I guess. It was the 00's attempt at trying to stop the stereotypical masculinity in hetero men.

trxxruraxvr ,

Wasn't that just an attempt to take over the world by crab-people?

southsamurai ,
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Nah, people remember, it was just not that great at breaking hetero stereotypes. It just shifted them to being pretty while still thinking the same way. It was a step for sure, but not really a big one.

What really helped break through the bullshit was gay men coming out and living life. When men started seeing the vast array of masculinity in that community, it allowed new discourse about what masculinity is, outside of the old patriarchal paradigm.

You started seeing more men embrace their self and express it fully. The discussion about being free to express emotions, to be a nuturing man, to be gentle and kind and open with everyone started becoming a possibility instead of a weakness. And nobody had to give up anything to have that freedom. It's still perfectly fine to be traditionally masculine if that's who you are, as long as you aren't trying to define others.

From there, we all got to expand our personal definition of masculine for ourselves. And, as we move into a paradigm where everyone can just be who they are, without any need to label themselves if they don't want to, we will be able to pick and choose even more. We can explore the fullness of human experience in a way I don't think has ever been possible. And that is largely thanks to our trans and non binary friends and neighbors stepping up and living their lives without apology.

Hell, if you ask me, the first step was back with the hippies and their long hair. Then the metalheads picking up that baton and running with it through the eighties until that one barrier to looking like a man was gone and likely gone for good. Those guys at the end of the boomer generation looking to escape the trap patriarchy had set for them took the first public step by growing their hair out and still being men, being comfortable with it.

It takes time to shift perceptions. It takes people at the edges being willing to step forward and be the change.

the_post_of_tom_joad , to memes in Get rid of those angry, masculine mannerisms

I actually disagree with the anger one I've seen women get angry. Anger is a gift for everyone

TrousersMcPants ,

Yeah, "angry, masculine mannerisms" sounds kind of shitty. I'm very happy for anyone who can express themselves as their own chosen gender but we don't need to put down others.

CCF_100 , to memes in Get rid of those angry, masculine mannerisms

hehe

PugJesus , to memes in Get rid of those angry, masculine mannerisms
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I'll have you know that my hair is thick and luscious as it is!

Nougat ,

Thick hair bros unite

TrousersMcPants ,

He'll yeah, brother

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