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ironhydroxide , to Not The Onion in Student protesters face same suspensions as those who bring assault rifles to campus

This is proof that those making the decisions fear protest to the same level as they fear long guns.

One they should fear much less, the other much more.

What a timeline.

uberdroog ,
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It's the combination they are afraid of

dual_sport_dork ,
@dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah, that seems like the obvious response to me. Want to pretend like we're armed? Okay, now we're armed.

Liz ,

I have said it before, I will say it again: these protesters need to start peacefully carrying rifles en masse. When they do, we will start to find they won't get attacked by the police or counter protesters anymore.

Maeve ,

Weapons kill bodies; protests kill corporate ideology.

giantofthenorth , to Not The Onion in Student protesters face same suspensions as those who bring assault rifles to campus

More protests need people openly armed so cops are less likely to abuse us and leaders listen.

Very cool students!

bobs_monkey ,

Yeah that'll end well. They'll either have the swat team mowing people down for have the national guard do the same thing. They'll treat it like terrorism and wipe everyone out, then go on the evening news and say the protestors were firing on police first and killing puppies.

Revan343 ,

That's not how it has historically went. When the protestors are armed, organized, and remain peaceful, the cops back off because cops are cowards

bobs_monkey ,

Ok, and when is the last time that happened here in the US in the last 40 years?

giantofthenorth ,
doingthestuff ,

That only works if they break no other laws. In a lot of places, committing a misdemeanor while armed makes it a felony.

deathbird ,

Yeah, I don't know that it would work well in these particular protests.

Plopp ,

That only works if you're a fascist, because cops won't target their allies.

PyroNeurosis ,

Black Panthers seemed to prove otherwise. They won't brutalize in the moment, but it will stick in their craw and they'll wait to hurt you later.

electric_nan , to Not The Onion in Student protesters face same suspensions as those who bring assault rifles to campus

Those who make peaceful protest impossible, make violent protest inevitable.

glomag , to Not The Onion in Student protesters face same suspensions as those who bring assault rifles to campus

If they're going to get the same suspension either way, they might as well..........

isles ,

Fast track to double secret probation!

Snapz , to Not The Onion in Student protesters face same suspensions as those who bring assault rifles to campus
Thcdenton ,

Well she did say she felt safer with the bear :p

foggy , to Not The Onion in Student protesters face same suspensions as those who bring assault rifles to campus

🤔

That...

That can't be good.

Ioughttamow , to Not the Onion in Student protesters face same suspensions as those who bring assault rifles to campus

Speech is more dangerous than a gun to an authoritarian

ValueSubtracted OP Mod , to Star Trek in [Interview] 'Star Trek: Discovery' is over. Now Alex Kurtzman readies for 'Starfleet Academy' and 'Section 31'
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I really like his answer to a question about Academy's setting:

So you’re setting this —

In the “Discovery” era. There’s a specific reason for that. As the father of a 17-year-old boy, I see what my son is feeling as he looks at the world and to his future. I see the uncertainty; I see all the things we took for granted as given are not certainties for him. I see him recognizing he’s inheriting an enormous mess to clean up and it’s going to be on his generation to figure out how to do that, and that’s a lot to ask of a kid. My thinking was, if we set “Starfleet Academy” in the halcyon days of the Federation where everything was fine, it’s not going to speak to what kids are going through right now.

It’ll be a nice fantasy, but it’s not really going to be authentic. What’ll be authentic is to set it in the timeline where this is the first class back after over 100 years, and they are coming into a world that is only beginning to recover from a cataclysm — which was the Burn, as established on “Star Trek: Discovery,” where the Federation was greatly diminished. So they’re the first who’ll inherit, who’ll re-inherit, the task of exploration as a primary goal, because there just wasn’t room for that during the Burn — everybody was playing defense. It’s an incredibly optimistic show, an incredibly fun show; it’s a very funny show, and it’s a very emotional show. I think these kids, in different ways, are going to represent what a lot of kids are feeling now.

valen ,

I don't know. I watched the first few seasons of Dicsco, but it wasn't for me. Having it set so far in the future seems to me to remove it from so much of ST lore. It'll only overlap 1 series.

ValueSubtracted OP Mod ,
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I think that's a good thing - not just for the reasons Kurtzman highlighted, but because Starfleet being in a "rebuild" phase gives them a nice excuse to put cadets to work.

I also just enjoy the 32nd century setting, so I'm glad to stick with it a while longer.

skfsh ,

The problem is that the Burn is space magic, but the problems of today's world is being caused by ourselves. These cadets have all the support of their political structure to enact change. We don't have that. Our entire political and economic system is stacked against us right now. You'll need to take a lot of power and money away from people who will salt the earth rather than give it up.

I love the sentiment behind it, but I can only hope it delivers on a truly revolutionary premise.

A_Chilean_Cyborg , to Not The Onion in Student protesters face same suspensions as those who bring assault rifles to campus
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I come and study in a place that protesting in university is almost normal, would even go to say that is one of the staples of Chilean universitary culture, something you must Live at lest once to feel complete would say... I can't believe that in the so called "country of freedom" students are repressed like in authoritarian countries. (Even tough they don't reach in extent to commit true crimes against humanity to those who oppose.)

Students should be the spearhead of societal change, and a society that suppress the students is a society that suppress change.

Here in chile, that kind of attitude would make the protests worsen off heavily and be turned around to demand for the deanery to be replaced.

threelonmusketeers , to Green Energy in Good news for 100% clean energy. Geothermal has finally arrived

Was it not here yet? What changed?

Edit: Ah. Better drilling techniques, ironically, pioneered by the fossil fuel industry!

Latimer and his colleagues improved on traditional geothermal techniques in several ways. But the biggest was this: They utilized horizontal drilling, boring about 10,000 feet down and then 5,000 feet to the side with each well. The technology has been around for decades, but it’s gotten a lot less expensive since the mid-2000s due to widespread adoption by oil and gas companies.

Nice that this drilling technology can be used in green energy applications too.

Lemmeenym , to Not the Onion in Student protesters face same suspensions as those who bring assault rifles to campus

Bringing an assault rifle to campus is only a suspension?

dRLY ,
@dRLY@lemmygrad.ml avatar

The legal charges that would also be brought by the cops/legal system would be the real punishment likely (depending on the state and whatnot). The school doesn't really need to do anything, and I am guessing it is more a fallback or show of denouncing someone. Though I agree that it is odd that they don't outright expel given the nature of the other examples given. Maybe it has to do with being a public school or something? Or maybe suspension until after the legal results? Idk.

I think they are slightly playing up the "assault rifles" bit though, as I imagine that the same suspension would be applied to any long rifle or shotgun (maybe even pistols tbh). I agree with the overall point of drawing attention to how incorrect the punishments are being applied to the pro-Palestine protestors. As shit is very very different from someone or a group of people showing up armed to a school campus. As I imagine the people more likely to jump to doing that would most certainly be the pro-Israel no matter what crowd. Though it might be getting to the point of pro-Palestine/anti-genocide folks having protection. At minimum access off campus. As the right most certainly does, and would likely be following people home.

Potatos_are_not_friends , to Not The Onion in Student protesters face same suspensions as those who bring assault rifles to campus

That's why you might as well strap up when protesting. Gonna get the same shit no matter what.

At least when you're strapped, the police are behaved.

Alatarius , to Not The Onion in Student protesters face same suspensions as those who bring assault rifles to campus

This is paywalled for me

AtariDump ,
motor_spirit , to Not the Onion in Student protesters face same suspensions as those who bring assault rifles to campus

gotta bring the strap next time so the pigs know you're kin! Good network op

S'all the same in the end anyway 🤙🌊

gandalf_der_12te , to Green Energy in Good news for 100% clean energy. Geothermal has finally arrived
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I think geothermal is a scam?

I remember reading somewhere that geothermic heat basically doesn't replenish (or only does so at geological timescales), and by extracting heat from underground we're basically depleting the underground heat reservoir, leading to shrinkage of the ground and therefore possible cracks in buildings.

TL;DR: It's not truly renewable, but rather renewable only on geological timescales (similar to fossil fuels).

Antitoxic9087 ,

It is highly dependent of the local geological conditions. Convection-based geothermal plants (those with hot spring flowing around) probably have less constraints on heat extraction limit. Conduction-based geothermal plants will face more problems.

In some shallow geothermal use case the ground is used as seasonal heat storage so heat renewable rate is not an issue.

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