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Skua , to Green Energy in China installs world’s 1st 18 MW wind turbine, to power 36,000 homes/yr

Are there particular pros and cons to the scale of each individual turbine? I think this is the first time I've seen that figure reported as opposed to the capacity of the wind farm as a whole

MrMakabar ,
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With larger turbines you need fewer for the same capacity. This means less manufacturing, easier maintenance, they are taller, which means more stable and stronger wind, and a lower price of construction. However larger turbines also lead to greater stresses on the system, so that can again increase maintenance and large blades are hard to transport on land.

So it is a compromise. Up to now offshore wind turbine manufacturers always built bigger turbines with newer generations. However the engineering challenges increases, so many have stopped going for bigger then 14-16MW and instead go for increased numbers of turbines with higher reliability.

TheBest ,
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I can picture the equipment procurement meeting perfectly based on this description, good analysis

mysteryname101 ,

Last issue. The forces on the tips of the wind turbines are insane.

cucumber_sandwich ,

Over a large range of sizes for many physical reasons larger turbines can be more efficient per space and per cost. For example there is less ground effects for larger turbines and the rotor area scales quadratically with hub height.

ChaoticNeutralCzech , to Green Energy in China installs world’s 1st 18 MW wind turbine, to power 36,000 homes/yr

That's 360,000 homes in 10 years! The growth is unstoppable!

/s parodying the idiotic misuse of units

Wanderer , to Green Energy in China installs world’s 1st 18 MW wind turbine, to power 36,000 homes/yr

Surprised they aren't pushing more aggressively into floating offshore.

Does anyone known why they aren't?

cucumber_sandwich ,

It's freaking hard

awesome_lowlander , to Green Energy in China installs world’s 1st 18 MW wind turbine, to power 36,000 homes/yr

How do the units even work out? That's 0.5 kW per household, a ridiculously low number.

boonhet ,

It might power 36k households on average but definitely not during times of any serious load.

At night all I've got running for several hours is my fridge.

shortwavesurfer , (edited ) to Technology in World’s 1st high-temperature superconducting tokamak built in China

Who knows, commercial fusion power might actually be less than 50 years away now. LOL.

Edit: Do keep in mind that this stuff doesn't have to be the efficiency of the Sun because the Sun is actually quite inefficient and takes millions of years for the heat to get from the core where it is fused out into the galaxy. They have to be hotter than the temperature of the Sun and more efficient.

Lemming6969 ,

That is exactly what we want, a controllable much slower reaction to release a reasonable amount of energy at a time... The sun.

barsoap ,

They have to be hotter than the temperature of the Sun

Well they don't strictly speaking have to but to get fusion you need a combination of pressure and temperature and increasing temperature is way easier than increasing pressure if you don't happen to have the gravity of the sun to help you out. Compressing things with magnetic fields isn't exactly easy.

Efficiency in a fusion reactor would be how much of the fusion energy is captured, then how much of it you need to keep the fusion going, everything from plasma heating to cooling down the coils. Fuel costs are very small in comparison to everything else so being a bit wasteful isn't actually that bad if it doesn't make the reactor otherwise more expensive.

What's much more important is to be economical: All the currently-existing reactors are research reactors, they don't care about operating costs, what the Max Planck people are currently figuring out is exactly that kind of stuff, "do we use a cheap material for the diverters and exchange them regularly, or do we use something fancy and service the reactor less often": That's an economical question, one that makes the reactor cheaper to operate so the overall price per kWh is lower. They're planning on having the first commercial prototype up and running in the early 2030s. If they can achieve per kWh fuel and operating costs lower than gas they've won, even though levelised costs (that is, including construction of the plant amortised over time) will definitely still need lowering. Can't exactly buy superconducting coils off the shelf right now, least of all in those odd shapes that stellerators use.

MonkderDritte ,

They do fusion without millions of km of plasma tho.

shortwavesurfer ,

So much more efficient then.

keepthepace , to Green Energy in World’s 1st high-temperature superconducting tokamak built in China

Fusion is a field where you can't have the "statup mindset": investments are in hundreds of millions and take at best a decade (and most likely two) to pay off. That's one field where it can't go anywhere without public funding.

It is very possible that China gets there first, considering how ridiculous western fusion efforts have been.

wewbull ,

We've proved we can do fusion, but we're still at the stage of just having singular reactions. None of these are power stations with a continuous flow of output, and they're not even close to being so.

keepthepace ,

I know. But we know it is "just" an engineering problem which can be solved at a high cost.

cyd , to Technology in World’s 1st high-temperature superconducting tokamak built in China

This is the one that's partly funded by Mihoyo, using the absurd amounts of money they made with Genshin Impact.

The power of the anime waifu, in the palm of your hand...

HakFoo ,

Source?

I'm more willing to forgive not getting Baizhu for the promise of unlimited cheap energy...

cyd ,

Just Google for Mihoyo and Energy Singularity. They invested $65M back in 2022.

adam , to Technology in World’s 1st high-temperature superconducting tokamak built in China
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allows it to make its tokamaks at only two percent of the volume of conventional tokamaks

Strap that into a tank, with - hear me out - legs, and we're golden.

bionicjoey ,

Jon Peters, is that you?

Gotta make anything into a giant mechanical spider!

threelonmusketeers , to Green Energy in World’s 1st high-temperature superconducting tokamak built in China

Currently, the highest Q value obtained from a tokamak is 1.53

I'm pretty sure this is the value of Q achieved by the National Ignition Facility, which uses inertial confinement, not a tokamak. As far as I know, the record Q for a tokamak is still only 0.67, set by the Joint European Torus back in 1997.

Donjuanme , to Technology in World’s 1st high-temperature superconducting tokamak built in China

I just can't trust innovations and discoveries coming from China, I'm excited, but I'll hold my breath until it's been replicated by a less untrustworthy source

MonkderDritte , to Technology in World’s 1st high-temperature superconducting tokamak built in China

So, uh, they use less effective magnets than ITER and that allows them to build at 2% size?

Exeous , to Futurology in Watch: Figure’s 01 humanoids now working at BMW’s car plant in US

Is so slow. But guess cheaper. No breaks, no benefits, no pizza party.

Pirky ,
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It's also going to keep getting better and faster at it, too.

Carrolade ,

And this is presumably an early model, and it wouldn't surprise me if they specifically want it to appear careful for the demo video.

lemann , to Futurology in Watch: Figure’s 01 humanoids now working at BMW’s car plant in US

Figure announced during its deployment in January that the robots would undergo training for twelve to twenty-four months. After this training period, they will be integrated into the facility with the precise skills required for each task.

That's a pretty long training period. I wonder if any of the training data is reusable if the assembly process changes slightly?

Figure aims to create a global model that can manage billion-unit humanoid robots. The company points out that there are about 10 million unsafe or undesirable jobs in the US alone.

Not sure how I feel about 10M workers being dismissed over time... the robot itself is really impressive regardless

rbesfe ,

I have a feeling when BMW gets the maintenance and technician bills for this thing, they'll realize that maybe meatbags aren't so bad

Wanderer OP ,

From what I understand this is the first time training of the system. It's brand new. Its going to take a while.

Some that would be analogous would be those arm robots. At the start they were very specific and I don't think very flexible at all. But when I looked at them going into a factory they are very general purpose machines. The manufacturers would come out and install them and make changes easily. They were also talking about how they would train people onsite to make some alterations, e.g. new box sizes.

Seeing as its using neural networks, they are meant to be general purpose machines right? I'm sure they must be more flexible than other types of systems.

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