Cool. I love GNOME. I hope one day it will be stable like Windows, the Software Center will be working, there will be only a Wayland session, better Flatpak integration (theming, etc.), accent colors, smooth animations, better performance.
The animations and performance are already very smooth. In fact I feel the performance is better than what you get with windows and the animations are smoother as well
Hmm. Maybe gnome is not correctly using hardware acceleration in your machine¿? In my experience, gnome is perhaps the smoothest DE though it is heavier in resource usage than XFCE, MATE, etc. It does stutter and drop frames when the system is seeing very heavy resource usage.
Edit : when I am using the powersaver settings given by power-profiles-daemon, gnome does stutter a little. This corresponds to amd-pstate being active with the scaling governor set to powersave and the energy vs performance hint set to save power.
It is definitely using hardware acceleration. Most of the time it is smoth, but first opening of the app menu after not opening it for a while gives a lag and frame drop. Nonetheless gnome 40 is much faster than 3. But still waiting for more. Everything on the performance settings. If I use power saving it is not smooth at alll.
Indeed, it is working now, at least on fedora (my current distro). But it was broken a few updates ago. It froze when searchinging, when installing and so on. I tried using it for years on different distributions and it was almost always broken. Best working version I used was on manjaro, but that was 4 years ago, don't know how now. I also tested it on debian few months. ago and it was garbage. One time I was so frustrated I rated it 1/5 in gnome software. I mostly make updates through terminal, because I do not want to get angry anymore.
It was broken almost everywhere a while ago in the way you are describing, it's now pretty solid, but Canonical seriously screwed it up on 24.04 by breaking its dependencies so almost nothing works. Wouldn't be surprised if it's broken on Debian too, especially since that's likely an ancient version by now.
Uuuhhhhh wait. So there have been 17 new versions released and people with 7.6 installs just missed it? I think I still have a 7.6 install and this is the first I've heard of this. I would love to know the history of how people are being advised to go from 7 to 24.
huh, I've never heard that term before. Idk if that makes the name ableist though, since it clearly means something else, unlike the switch from master to main for git, where that name was used in the same way as the offensive context. Also the word "gimp" has another more well-known meaning... which I guess isn't that much better. Yeah idk maybe they should change the name lol.
Not sure why the downvotes. The good news is that we should be very close to the end of that with GIMP 3 out very soon.
Earlier in the year they announced that it was expected in July or so. I hold out hope that they at least get it out this year. Once it is out, all will be forgieven. Let’s hope that we do not see as long of a delay next time.
This (possibly last) GIMP 2 stable release brings much-requested backports from GTK3, including improved support for tablets on Windows. A number of bug fixes and minor improvements are also included in this release.
If the release says that this is possibly the last GIMP2 stable release, it feels like GIMP3 is actually on its way. I understand your cynicism, but I'd be more optimistic this time around.
I didn't downvote but for a lot of the time the core devs were mostly 1-2 ppl working some evenings because they have dayjobs/lives. They released many updates to 2.10, and they're often feature releases not just bugfix releases. At the same time they almost completely rewrote the backend to use a new graphics library GEGL, which they also wrote from scratch. As for GIMP 3 they have also redone a lot under the hood to allow for easier development of new features moving forward and custom old GTK widgets updating to GTK3 required rearchitecturing as they work fundamentally differently from modern GTK3/4 versions.
So that's why I don't joke, there's also nothing to forgive. Let's hope that GIMP 3 will get more interest from devs with its more modern and capable architecture.
I thought they have renamed it one day from GTK+ Gimp Tool Kit to Gnome Tool Kit, but I do not find this anymore.
Imho Gnome Toolkit would be at least much more appropriate…
GTK is a UI toolkit, i.e. a piece of software that draws uniform-looking buttons and scrollbars and the like.
GTK used to stand for "GIMP toolkit" but GTK and GIMP development are now entirely separate, so much so, in fact, that 13 years after the release of GTK 3 and 3 years after the release of GTK 4, GIMP still hasn't upgraded to either.
GIMP has had a GTK 3 port in development for years. They just lack the developer bandwidth to finish it. And in general, using EOLed libraries for your very popular application is not great, not for security, not for usability, and not for compatibility with modern systems.
The way I see it, GTK is really a framework for building cross-platform GUI apps. Then handling display server compatibility makes perfect sense to me.
If this was meant to be a dig at Wayland, I'm pretty sure GTK also needs explicit and direct support for X11, Windows and MacOS. It just already exists.
It's not a dig at Wayland. You really don't want to have to add specific support for the OS directly in your widget library. There should be an abstraction layer in-between that deals with that. If that layer had been there they wouldn't have to rewrite the whole thing.
GIMP's GTK3 port was finished several months ago. What remains to be done for GIMP 3.0 is bug-fixing and porting to the new Plug-in API.
The best way to upgrade to GTK4 is to upgrade to GTK3 first. There was some talk about working on GTK4 soon after GIMP 3.0 is out, but whether that will happen or not is uncertain.
GIMP has been releasing two versions for several years. First, the Stable release, which is the 2.10.x series. Second, the development release, which is the 2.99.x series, which is where the GTK3 work has been done. The work from the development release will culminate in the Stable release reaching 3.0. GIMP will continue to support 2.10.x for some time after 3.0 becomes stable, but eventually they will stop supporting it.
Most of the work right now is focused on the development release and getting GIMP 3.0 stable and ready for release, but they're still doing a little more work to tide users over until 3.0 is out. If you're curious how work on 3.0 is going: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gimp/-/milestones/27#tab-issues
GTK3 brings Wayland support among other features and yes, it looks nicer. GTK3 is still maintained while GTK2 has been obsoleted, which means bug fixes are still landing. Once they're at GTK3, that makes it much easier to move to GTK4, which brings even better Wayland support (i.e. color management will actually be possible) and a much better UI in my opinion.
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